No Homo...

Don't be jealous. Yogs has two eyes as far as I know. You both can have one.

(Trying to make light of that comment Flub - but I really hope it is a joke and not a point of view as this is supposed to be a fun game and not a place for hate)

It was a joke.

This gave me a chuckle as well.

I had to stare at that awhile to finally get what you saw scummy about it. I find it lame for a vote but at least I see it. I appreciate not knowing who to vote for. I feel the same way at the moment.

I agree with this. I don’t see a need to rush yet. Discussion was fairly lively these first few days despite being a weekend. You never know when someone might slip. I believe we can come to an agreement to lynch someone, otherwise we risk starting D2 in the same position as Today.

Monday night vote count:

2 Yogsloth (Trentonlf, Lifthrasil)
1 Krypsyn (Flubbucket)
1 Agentcarr16 (HijacK)
1 Sage103082 (BlueMooner)
1 HijacK (CSPVG)
1 CSPVG (Yogsloth)
1 Cristigale (Krypsyn)

With 16 players alive it takes 9 votes to kick someone off the island and 8 votes to "no-lynch".
Yogsloth is closest to leaving at L-7.

Not voting: JMich, HypersomniacLive, Dedoporno, McHack, AgentCarr16, Cristigale, Sage103082 and Adaliabooks

Deadline is in 6 days on Monday Sept 14th at Midnight EDT (UTC -4)
[Extended due to Holidays, Vacations, 16 players and its the first day]

Of course you can always vote someone off before that

Bagatha Chrustie is on holiday...will be back tomorrow

That is so touching ;-)

It is possibly role fishing and/or directing town power roles. Both of these are a bit scummy. It isn't the most damning evidence ever, but I did arch an eyebrow when I read it.

Assuming I am correct about the play, I do find it too risky, and not something I would do. Other players may be willing to take said risk though.

Of course. And this been written, it does make it much harder to gauge reactions.

No, not at all ! I'm not saying anything like that. Think he's scummy if you want, and by all means question his behaviour. As I said in my last post, everybody's talking about Yog... that wasn't my concern.

What made me slightly suspicious about you was how when some people seemed to hint they might have an idea what was going on, while everybody kept speculating on Yog's actions, YOU seemed to be going after those who suggested his actions might be town+. It just made me think you were fishing for scraps, hoping someone would assure you and spill Yog's plan. "Oh all right Trent, HERE'S what Yog is doing...bla bla bla, understand now?" Since I've said that I THINK Yog's actions MIGHT be town+, you trying to expose the details seemed town-.

If you said you had a suspicion of something, I asked you about it, and you declined to elaborate, I'd let the issue drop. That's me. I wouldn't keep poking you, saying "answer, answer, answer". Once someone's made a decision about something I usually don't keep on them about it. The fact that you kept poking when it was clear nobody was going to say more is what I'm talking about. That seemed like it MIGHT be scummy, but I wasn't sure, I'm new at this, which is why I asked what others thought. Everybody seems to pretty much think I'm wrong in how I've interpreted your actions, so I apologize.

If anything, take it as a compliment. You're the one who stressed we should talk about things that might be town-, so I did. It just happened to be about you. : )

And let me repeat if it isn't clear (since some people seem to think I'm saying things I'm not), I am NOT saying Yog is town, NOT saying I know he's town, NOT saying Yog has proven he's town, NOT saying anything like that. All I've said is that I think his action might be, since I can imagine a positive outcome from this, that's all. I could easily be wrong, easily be mistaken, easily have misinterpreted or imagined things that can't be. Hopefully that clears everything up.

Yes, it has.

Thanks.

So basically everybody has to figure out their own means of finding mafia, and then they can't share those tricks with anybody, ever, even between games, lest the trick become useless. So.... I guess I'll just have to um... yeah.

Forest for the trees, dear boy. Your scrutiny of his capitalizations has apparently made you miss a larger flaw. He didn't mention Hijack at all.

One of the safest scum claims is Vanilla, since there is practically no risk (at least this early on) of someone else calling you out on it. If you claim a role you risk the actual role holder to counter claim which may throw a wrench in your plan. Vanilla claim also has a built-in excuse on why you're not getting NKed. It may potentially serve as a investigation deflector as well - people will think twice before wasting a night action for a potential vanilla, the only role that comes to my mind that will never end up with a wasted read is an alignment cop.

Also, Yog already noted it as a rookie mistake (more often than not new players do or say or believe something to be good when it's actually not but they just don't know better yet) and since your are new it's more likely people will take your word for it easier than if I were to do the same, for example.

TL;DR - if done on purpose it may be a decent newbie scum play.

Lists with missing players....now I'm smelling something!!

Yeah, sorry about that...

Ok. For the record, how can we let it continue without some sort of verification??

lulz!!

Unvote: Krypsyn

I'm anticipating some plausible explanation from the TOWN COP as to why he left a name off the list. The job does entail scrutinizing every player does it not??

And oopsy will not bode well