flubbucket: I will be obvious....IF you've actually found them.
HypersomniacLive: And I continue to find them. You'd be
obvious if you weren't almost hostile towards everyone, and if it wasn't for that one element that can be read either way. Tell me, does your conscience ever trouble you?
Argh, this really makes me feel inadequate, but sure go on like that, I'll just continue to read the game and someday I hope I'll get what the two of you are going on about...
adaliabooks: Well, we already saw them skip him as a target N1, they may have thought it better to eliminate the role that can unrestrict more town power roles and block yogs again last night (or take the risk that mchack had unrestricted someone else and leave yogs completely alone). Either target was a strong choice for scum.
Well it's only a mislynch because I'm town. If I was scum then he wouldn't be mislynching me...
No, probably not.
*shrugs*
What can you do?
HypersomniacLive: Going after mchack doesn't have the immediate benefit that eliminating the Town Cop has:
- there's a backup in play that would take over the very next Day, and
- every unrestricted role is a potential threat to scum only a Night later.
And if trentonlf is to be believed, scum can (re)restrict any role.
Though I'm not sure if I buy that - with town having a restriction lifter and a backup, and scum having a restriction imposer, we could get caught up in an endless loop with town unrestricting roles and scum restricting them back; add a NK and possible mislynches, and we are faced with a scum advantage that town would have a really hard time eliminating, if at all.
I've thought about that aswell, and that's the reason I won't make any indication of whom I'm going to unrestrict today...
Still, I also have a hard time believing in trentonlf being restricted (still believe if anything it was a roleblock) since that way scum could restrict one person and nightkill another each night and town would always be one step behind.
mchack: [...]
In the light of that, HSL does look a little scummy for trying so aswell. But then again adalia did do one quite bad wagon analysis coming to a very strange conclusion and also didn't vote for krypsyn.
Although, on the other hand HSL also didn't vote for Krypsyn yesterday! What was up with that btw? I know you said later you intended to hammer, but you didn't. And that could easily have been you gambling on maybe the deadline hitting before krypsyn get's lynched. It was pretty close...
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HypersomniacLive: Not sure what "trying so as well" refers to - do you mean that I pushed for adaliabooks lynch? When did I do that and in what way? You did say that you find my play annoying and (occasionally) wrong, but if your game is "questioning always equates pushing for a lynch", it isn't mine; you'd know it if you had read a game I've played in.
It's true on both cases, you haven't gone so far as to vote (but then again you don't seem to do that readily anyway) and I didn't read a game with you in it yet. (But I will :D and I'm already looking forward to it)
It's just that the questions you ask, aren't as intense for each of the players. And especially with adaliabooks I feel, you really want to paint him in a bad light, most of the time:
HypersomniacLive: ... Almost sounds like you're trying a bit too hard here. ... do you think that the reasons you've given put you in a more favourable light?
HypersomniacLive: ...So, now that we're back, care to explain what that was? A joke, you'll say? ...
HypersomniacLive: ...but caught up testing Adalia Fundamentals..
that's a joke sorry ... but there's more
HypersomniacLive: Gee, that's encouraging. But could come handy when I'm scum. Or I should perhaps just follow your lead. "wink wink*
Ookay on reareading everything you said concerning adaliabooks, I have to rudder back on that one.
Sorry that wasn't fair. I don't think anymore, that you were questioning adalia more than other people...
To be clear, what I said above the quotes I feel is not true anymore. HSL isn't trying to paint adalia in any colour!
HypersomniacLive: As for the deadline on Krypsyn's lynch and me
easily gambling on it - it was far from "pretty close". You bid us goodnight (post #1038) with more than 5hrs left till deadline (post #1045). With six players besides myself not having placed a vote, and it being day-time for five of them, that was a pretty long time to hope that the deadline would hit before he got lynched, don't you think? What happened is that flubbucket and cristigale voted him seconds apart, so there was really no point in adding my vote after that; I'm pretty sure that you'd have found that also suspicious.
yes that's as I remember it, too. But I can't remember when flubs and cristigales votes came. I thought they were nearer the deadline than 5 hours (more like 2 hours, maybe?), but if they did their votes right after me logging off, then I also have to apologize for that one. :/ sorry.
HypersomniacLive: Of course you're free to believe me or not. If you think that you've figured me out and that I'm scum, then you should vote me, and convince others to do the same.
not convinced on you or most others in the game, yet. It's just the tunnel vision, you've been on about. Everyone seems to take you as obvitown, although you never actually let anything slip about yourself in game (not that I saw at least, but that doesn't mean much ;) And trying to think ahead who the next lynches might be you're not anywhere near threatened, although you're not townie in the way Hijack for example is for me. So I try to look closer on what you write and It made me suspicous at times. But then again, what I've found so far isn't enough to get me to vote for you...
trentonlf: [...]
@Hijack, If BlueMooner is unable to play the game he should ask to be replaced. I have the utmost sympathy for him in his situation, it sucks big time. But if he can't commit to playing he needs to realize this and leave the game. The first game we were in we had a player who just stopped playing all together that we ignored and it cost Town the game. I don't want to see that happen again. So I'm sorry for what BlueMooner is going through, but he needs to either play or leave.
HypersomniacLive: So, BlueMooner has to realise that and leave the game, but if you pop in once in a blue moon without actually contributing is not a reason to realise that and leave the game? With all due respect, you're displaying a good chunk of bias here, and I wonder if you're covering for your scum buddy, or just letting your personal feelings get the better of you.
Sorry, I don't get it ... who's covering whom now? you reply to trent but I don't see him covering bluemooner at all, quite the opposite!
or did you mean Hijack? then that would be suspicious for you to say, because there's just no way in hell hijack could've made the spot on claim he did on day one when he was scum. He even got the role name right (Self-Help Guru) and rwarehall told me that he invented that role for this game. it's just not concievable for hijack to be scum.
So who did you talk to?