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HijacK: @all, can you share your pie flavor?
Banana.
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HypersomniacLive: Sure, if you're town, your play makes you a pretty unattractive night-target - why waste a night-kill when he can be lynched? - but it does make you a damn good lynch-target. Perhaps you don't care to be lynched, but if you're town, how about you help town before it comes to that?

And I see your tone regarding yogsloth has not changed with his flip, did it change something in your views, now that you have to accept that he was the Town Cop?
I originally viewed your questions here as rhetorical.

However:

1) Your thoughts regarding my lynch today are on target. Who would be smart enough to strategize such a ploy??

2) Okay

3)Yes. yogsloth was town cop. My challenge was based on town thinking and if facing it again I would do the same.
Looking at the current field of players I will give my opinion

I’m less likely to vote for trentonlf, mchack, dedoporno due to role corroboration.

HypersomniacLive is becoming an enigma. I will echo, if you're scum..../applause

I find HijacK, cristigale, adaliabooks, Bluemooner to be mostly neutral.

I could vote for JMich, Lifthrasil, Sage103082.

JMich has the most possibility of being town based on his posts. However his Day One play seems to have little to do with his current play. Perhaps there is a clear reason for JMich’s inscrutable stance…./JK

Lifthrasil has been troubling me from the beginning. His stance in many of his posts with content has been safely covering all the bases….flubbucket is scum, or maybe town or neutral. And what was the reason for the change in stance regarding yogsloth from Day One to Day Two. I can see the lynch push of CSPVG as a potential reason, but yogsloth would have gladly sacrificed his power lurker scum buddy to cement himself permatown. Obviously that isn’t the case, but the rest of us had no knowledge outside the thread posts.

Sage103082 needs to post moar because moar!!!

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flubbucket: I meant nothing by it. :D

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HypersomniacLive: Did you now?

Any chance you'll answer my question (post #1085)?
Well....I meant nothing personal toward cristigale.

However, if you are looking for breadcrumbs from me you can find several sprankled through my posts.
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dedoporno: If his death was that expected, why did you fear him pursuing you at all?
I'm not surprised he was chosen, but equally I would not been surprised if mchack was the NK. There was a strong chance he might not be alive today, but if he did survive then I didn't want to give him fuel to mislynch a townie.
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trentonlf: [...]

As for Sage, I agree she has been absent most of the game and not playing up to her normal standards. I try not to let real life influence me in any way, but I do know she has been extremely busy at work and left today for a weekend trip. I will admit I am probably giving her more slack than I should, and if it were not for BlueMooner being absent I would have probably prod voted her.
I'm aware of Sage103082's time-issues, she posted about them herself, but that was not exactly my point - I can understand that itcan be difficult to play the game with a really busy and demanding daily schedule, but at the same time I can also understand what BlueMooner's going through, and how hard that may make it to partake in the game as usual.

Your reasoning kind of sounds like you're giving less slack to BlueMooner because you don't have the same relationship with him outside the game as with Sage103082. Am I misunderstanding/ misinterpreting something here?



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flubbucket: I[...]

3)Yes. yogsloth was town cop. My challenge was based on town thinking and if facing it again I would do the same.
My question was not about yogsloth, but about the players in the game. In your post #1113 you share your current view, but I'd be interested in whether yogsloth's flip has changed your view on any of them.


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flubbucket: [...]

Well....I meant nothing personal toward cristigale.

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That was also not what I meant with my "Did you now?".


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flubbucket: [...]

However, if you are looking for breadcrumbs from me you can find several sprankled through my posts.
You think I've not found them? What I've not determined yet is how all the other elements of your play fit all that bread-crumbing. If you're town, that is.



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adaliabooks: I'm not surprised he was chosen, but equally I would not been surprised if mchack was the NK. There was a strong chance he might not be alive today, but if he did survive then I didn't want to give him fuel to mislynch a townie.
Curious, what are your arguments on scum preferring mchack over yogsloth?

Also, is there a "mislynch a scum" thing? Almost sounds like you're trying a bit too hard here.

And putting aside if your lynch would be a mislynch or not, do you think that the reasons you've given put you in a more favourable light?




@all - since I don't recall having played with flubbucket as town before, and I've only seen him give his opinion on players when he's scum, does he do that when he's town?
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HypersomniacLive: I'm aware of Sage103082's time-issues, she posted about them herself, but that was not exactly my point - I can understand that itcan be difficult to play the game with a really busy and demanding daily schedule, but at the same time I can also understand what BlueMooner's going through, and how hard that may make it to partake in the game as usual.

Your reasoning kind of sounds like you're giving less slack to BlueMooner because you don't have the same relationship with him outside the game as with Sage103082. Am I misunderstanding/ misinterpreting something here?




@all - since I don't recall having played with flubbucket as town before, and I've only seen him give his opinion on players when he's scum, does he do that when he's town?
No, since I knew Sage was leaving yesterday for a weekend trip I voted for BlueMooner because he was still here. BlueMooner was online when I cast my vote and I was hoping to get a response. If it had only been Sage who had been absent I would have voted her.

As for flub he acts almost the same whether he is town or scum.
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HypersomniacLive: You think I've not found them? What I've not determined yet is how all the other elements of your play fit all that bread-crumbing. If you're town, that is.
I will be obvious....IF you've actually found them.
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trentonlf: No, since I knew Sage was leaving yesterday for a weekend trip I voted for BlueMooner because he was still here. BlueMooner was online when I cast my vote and I was hoping to get a response. If it had only been Sage who had been absent I would have voted her.
I don't like this. Being "online" doesn't mean you're on GOG. When I open up my browser I have 9+ tabs running and one of them is the game. I leave my laptop working for hours on end with the tabs open and that doesn't mean I'm playing. Furthermore these points have been, albeit loosely, discussed in the past, and I believe BlueMooner's emotional state should weigh more than a busy schedule if you're going to ever put such a vote down. Searching for a job because you might not be able to pay bills vs being busy at a job. It's a huge difference, and yet of the 2 evils you chose the worst. I'm not buying it.
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HypersomniacLive: You think I've not found them? What I've not determined yet is how all the other elements of your play fit all that bread-crumbing. If you're town, that is.
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flubbucket: I will be obvious....IF you've actually found them.
too stupid, that I am to find breadcrumb so bad at it. :( I have all your "Posts" read again and just can not find anything solid. Probably you have scattered your name somewhere, I think ...

Anyway, I do not want to vote for you today. Adaliabooks but also not. Even on the first day he made some rather "Townie" and it was even two scum have voted for his lynch.

I hope dedoporno tells us soon what he has found.
And I hope I shall soon write back to normal. To give serious thought or even to justify a vote is very difficult in this way.
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flubbucket: And what was the reason for the change in stance regarding yogsloth from Day One to Day Two. I can see the lynch push of CSPVG as a potential reason, but yogsloth would have gladly sacrificed his power lurker scum buddy to cement himself permatown. Obviously that isn’t the case, but the rest of us had no knowledge outside the thread posts.
With which you ignore the actual trigger for my change in stance: HijacK's claim. With that claim, Yog's play suddenly made sense (assuming he hoped for the presence of such a role), because I had previously not thought of the possible presence of a de-restrictor. So previously I thought that even with a restriction, i.e. with a not-so-useful power role, suicide play would be anti-town. Even if one is vanilla, suicide play is bad, as shown in the last game. But with a de-restrictor in mind, to whom it was possible to reach out in this way without tipping off scum immediately, Yogs's play suddenly made sense.
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flubbucket: And what was the reason for the change in stance regarding yogsloth from Day One to Day Two. I can see the lynch push of CSPVG as a potential reason, but yogsloth would have gladly sacrificed his power lurker scum buddy to cement himself permatown. Obviously that isn’t the case, but the rest of us had no knowledge outside the thread posts.
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Lifthrasil: With which you ignore the actual trigger for my change in stance: HijacK's claim. With that claim, Yog's play suddenly made sense (assuming he hoped for the presence of such a role), because I had previously not thought of the possible presence of a de-restrictor. So previously I thought that even with a restriction, i.e. with a not-so-useful power role, suicide play would be anti-town. Even if one is vanilla, suicide play is bad, as shown in the last game. But with a de-restrictor in mind, to whom it was possible to reach out in this way without tipping off scum immediately, Yogs's play suddenly made sense.
My mistake.

I should have read your mind.
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flubbucket: My mistake.

I should have read your mind.
Yes. Please do that next time.
Back home, catching up on sleep and the game.
McHack, you are free from your restriction. Please avoid editing in the future, or else! [evil observer grins]
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HypersomniacLive: Curious, what are your arguments on scum preferring mchack over yogsloth?

Also, is there a "mislynch a scum" thing? Almost sounds like you're trying a bit too hard here.

And putting aside if your lynch would be a mislynch or not, do you think that the reasons you've given put you in a more favourable light?
Well, we already saw them skip him as a target N1, they may have thought it better to eliminate the role that can unrestrict more town power roles and block yogs again last night (or take the risk that mchack had unrestricted someone else and leave yogs completely alone). Either target was a strong choice for scum.

Well it's only a mislynch because I'm town. If I was scum then he wouldn't be mislynching me...

No, probably not.
*shrugs*
What can you do?