Ive thought about this for the last few days, but how would town EVER win this game via election? Since it requires a unanimous? vote the only way town would win is if scum wanted to throw in the towel.

Elect Trent

Ill play ball, but I gotta say im gonna get real suspicious if we get within 2 votes of an election.

Question then poke and prod anyone who hesitates in an election, and investigating the ones who do not pass muster.

Oh wow I've been away from this game for far too long. I'm sorry everyone, I'll push myself back from this slog. I guess the lack of a Night phase didn't allow for some relief and reorganizing my thoughts, so I kinda ended up... I don't know, drained? I suddenly lost all motivation to open this thread mid Day 2, as if I was under a bout of depression.

But whatever it is, I refuse to let it push me down permanently.
So I am back and I WILL answer everything asked of me, and also scrutinize whatever posts can lead us to find scum.

Just don't expect every reply to go out at once tho because I won't manage it all out in a single night. I was AFK for a long while after all.

My next post will start from my opinions of the content and replies to queries made to me soon after my last post.

But see to me thats if you trust wholeheartedly the candidate being pushed, the only of those who could do so without question would be scum. Any person having hesistency to the election would more likely be town because questioning as sucm would naturally put too much of a target on their back.

Im intrigued to see how this plays out, but I fully intend to remove my ballot from this campaign if we get to hammer risk because there is no way a town candidate is getting to even E-2 unless scum give up.

And as a townie that's almost impossible. Oh well, if nothing else such a gambit should providing townies with useful infos.

I know a bit of how you are feeling. Good to see you are trying your best to keep playing. Good luck!

Yeah... That part has been harder than in any Mafia game I've ever been in. Not that I am particularly good at it, but it seems like just there aren't many strands to pull.

The thing I was best at is in reading Meta (no, not related to hanging on facebook). After I got used to the regular player base I would notice how one player who drew Town one game would change to the next. Too much of a change would give them out as scum, although proving it afterwards was another uphill battle.

The problem is that my usual approach is close to useless here. Not only half the userbase is new (to me), it's been so long we last played that my memories of the rest can betray me. Also, people eventually change.

I do suspect everyone somewhat but I can't point at a smoking gun right now.

Balance is not the concern here. Out of those roles only the accuser is an actual Power, and for balance sake it was given to scum. The rest is faction-independent because they do not actually influence anything.
I mean, Micro sprayed words in the wall but his message didn't give Town anything they didn't already have. It didn't raise Town's chances. CatV was pranked with fish soup and it didn't directly influence neither Town nor scum's chances. These roles are good for the lore, but unimportant for the game and thus assigned by Random.org to anyone, it doesn't matter if townie or scum.

I meant that, with three scum players where:
- one is already set aside to be the accuser (no arguing about this one) and
- one is the messenger (a theory proven false by now)
then scum have only one other player that could be the prankster.

Of course, we're not here to find who are the PRs, but who are the reformers. All this is a bunch of musings that in the end won't get us any closer to finding scum so I won't entertain this any longer. I hope you found it clear, but if not we can discuss it post-game.

This answer ties into the reply I wrote to CatV above in this post. First of all you'd have to assume that Farky is very much "alike" an inGenious fRiend of ours whom we played many games with and who had trouble keeping a stable account with posting rights.
After a while playing with said player I felt their unique style was easier for me to gauge, at least in games where he didn't push himself to go the extra mile.
Since we're all somewhat rusty in this game I assume the same is true of him, thus he would be easier to gauge.
In games where he tried to not overtax himself I noticed that when scum he talked a lot about anything other than the game and kept a carefree attitude through and through. This hasn't happened here, at all.

This is all I have time for tonight. More to come tomorrow night guys. See ya'll

well, obviously my plan went to crap

but

I do not believe we should be electing Trent

I believe this is a bad idea at this juncture

I think we probably shouldn't elect anybody until we nail at least one scum, because we're going to need to look at relationships

So I'm not voting to elect

I'll try to finish my reads on individuals tomorrow

Ok, so you are familiar as to how a typical mafia game goes. When I played my first game, I ended up entirely confused.


Awwwww, I remember how it feels to be off someones scumlist/on someones townlist. I also remember how it feels when that unceremoniously changes, when it gets inconvenient.

We don’t get two shots at this. We don’t even get one. If I counted correctly, it takes 5 votes to investigate today, so unless all five town somehow manage to pile up on one scum, it requires scum vote/s to archieve. Why exactly would they kick out one of their own, when not necessary? So they can screw us over harder afterwards?


No. Trent is a very good player, especially scum player. I’m not voting to elect him while there are still scum about, and should we actually manage to investigate the three scum, election won’t be necessary anymore.

You look worse by the minute. Did you engage self-destruction-mode? I’m about ready to oblige helping you with getting „out“.

How about you get (re-)engaged? Who are your scum picks? Why? Anything odd/noteworthy you noticed?


It makes me feel a bit better about you being town, but it could be a calculated response.


Which would make this a good opportunity to try and throw shade on an otherwise mostly town-read player. So let’s not play this game. Unless you hope to glean information from this somehow?


Of course, I would like more of your input, too. You can’t vote anymore, but you are confirmed town. I hope, you don’t feel too pressured by this.

That ^, of course, also is true for you, Farky.

with scum having daychat a pope election on an actual town cannot in fact go through, because they would simply predecide who will elect with us to appear town and who will have doubts and simply can't hammer the election in good conscience. So it's easy for town. either we pick scum (which would be quite unfortunate, but with trent I feel also rather unlikely) and it's end of game :( or more likely we'll only come up to to e-1 and then the last player not electing is definitely scum :)
So I think it's a fair move to do now.
All Town elect Trent. Huzzah!

Well, problem is, if we end in a no lynch today, then I'm pretty sure that trent will be investigated by the accuser. So today is simply a good chance to nail at least one scum through this method. And if that works we have won the game because we can simply call for a Trent election each day and lynch the one scum that doesn't want to elect trent or if both scum try and hide in the election wagon, we'll just win the game by election.
Huzzah!

So in the first part of your post you tell us how incredibly hard it is to vote/investigate scum today because all town need to vote together, and thereby how much easier it is to mys-lynch because scum will help with that. And then in the second part you tell us the election mechanic simply shouldn't be used as long as there's still scum about?

Sounds scummy to me.
here, have a vote:
vote FlockeSchnee

@&#$?&! @&#$?&! @&#$?&!, don't spill a soda all over your keyboard, it really does @&#$?&! things up. Thank god I have a mechanical keyboard and was able to get it cleaned and working, but it wasted a good 45 minutes of my time.....

How long is this Day? You never stated that I could find.



Man this game is moving at a glacial pace, and we still got people voting all over the place. I asked Lift to know for sure, but we need to get a direction going. Last minute lynches are not working, and people are using the excuse of "man I really don' t like this, I feel you are scum, but I don't want a no lynch". It's absolutely correct, we can't have a no lynch because that is only going to benefit scum, but as I said this last minute switching of votes to secure a lynch is getting us nowhere.

From what I see it looks like we have 2 votes on joppo, 2 on Flocke, 1 on Pooka, and 1 on Cat. So two people just standing around acting scared?? VOTE VOTE VOTE, let's get a direction going here before we are being pressed by a deadline.

My vote is on joppo because I agree with Cat and I think scum have been laying low and letting the inactive feel of this game play in their favor, and he has been someone that is only posting the minimal and not really making any waves, like he's trying to hide in plain sight.

Now if someone thinks there is a better option, let's talk it out. Who and why? Let's get more activity in this game! Not only VOTE VOTE VOTE, but let's try TALK TALK TALK also.

I am neither Jane Marple nor Phryne Fisher. It is not my job to be lone solver of the mystery while the men just stand around doing whatever. Instead of demanding that I alone pick up the slack for everyone, how about demanding more of the people that have not participated all that much.

This would include yourself because you're replacing one such person. It looks like you're just deflecting and trying to put up a good front when you're just making noncommittal statements.

I have to agree with mchack that your behavior is suspicious.



Also I've been fighting off stomach flu for all of 2025 and spent most of today throwing up. Made the mistake of going to the vet office with my cat and ended up throwing up in my mouth. I'm super out of sorts at the moment.

EBWOP

"man I really don' t like this, I feel you are scum, but I don't want a no lynch" should read "man I really don' t like this, I don't feel you are scum, but I don't want a no lynch"

I am sorry to hear this and hoping you get better soon.