Sorry, meant to put this here too

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Information_Instead_of_Analysis

I meant this post, and yes it seems I misread post#88 when skimming. Beyond this I play different as I said earlier. *shrugs*

I was not doing that and you know it.

EBWOP
That line is giving me the 'criticising a game somehow keeps other peoples from playing or buying that game' vibes.

Thanks for this!

I'm guessing you skimmed over and didn't read that elections require a 100% unanimous vote. This means that everyone who is active in the thread could vote for me because human-cat utopia.... Nope. We don't get that. Even one person not voting would stop the election.

If we were anywhere close to electing anyone, I would be asking for a rule change on this where anyone who has not posted in the last five days is automatically voting with the majority vote on all elections.

Self voting, doing the "man I should just quit" routine, and the little slips he's made. I don't see it.

And what is this going by your gut thing, that's my thing and you can't have it.

You are not helping your case. Voting yourself and then removing it to "help Town", playing the woe is me card for sympathy, and other scummy actions. If you are Town you should be doing more to help us find who the scum is and stop with the antics, but I don't think you are Town.

I also will not be on this evening, I have Table Top game night with friends tonight. We are playing Savage Worlds Pathfinder. ff anyone is familiar with Pathfinder it is a fantasy system like D&D, and they collaborated with Savage Worlds, another gaming system that is the best of the three IMO, to make Pathfinder work in Savage World's system.

Wasn't playing the cards for sympathy to get votes off of me, if that is what you were meaning. I am going through IRL crap and having another bullseye put on me and sucking at another one of these games because my playing style isn't optimal for these kinds of games isn't helping. I only joined because op needed another player. After this game i'm not going to bother playing another. I simply suck at it it is being plain to see. I'll stick to what i'm good at like pc games.

EBWOP
I jump into these kinds of games knowing i'll playing like the usual then getting frustrated at the result. I should just stick to what im better at I guess. Apologies if my postings come off too harsh to anyone.

Craaaaaap I misread elect as vote off. My apologies.

I wish I could finding a group to play with. Sounds like fun.

Check my posting #222 for a small attempt at me trying to do that. For more look below.

Mchack - their line filled diagrams or whatever they were being awhile back. Would scum bother wasting time doing such things to appear busy and townie? Maybe, but I feel they leaning more likely townie.

You/Trent - Your dropping of the vote on me after I messaged you suggested to me you might bw townie. This is more gut feeling but I trust it for now.

NERD

I'm finally in a Tabletop DnD Campaign myself since about a year. Best (catholic) fun to be had with other people. Love it.


ok, thanks for the wiki entry for IIOA, it makes sense for it to be a scumtell, if someone doesn't want to say who they think should be "yeeted".

Well let's try and not do that. On my scumlist, there's Fark now, obviously, since I really believe that was a slip, though he does give a pretty believable impression of being just a townie, who made a bunch of mistakes. But then again letting him off the hook would probably clear him for the rest of the game, and I'm not so sure I believe it. I mean if he is scum, wouldn't he be acting exactly the same? Also saying both me and trent are leaning town for him, when we're both voting for him looks pretty ... there should be a word for that. like ingratiating. Wanting us to like him and move away. Scummy? well maybe and maybe not. You never know until the flip, do you?

Then there's still bucktoothgamer, who although you and cat seem to think him a shiny townie catholic vampire with shades on at night, still feels a bit shady to me. He's put a vote on you and you reacted right the next post and explained your micro vote and both of you were fine with the situation, but the vote never changed. Alibi vote?

So bucktooth, is yogs still the most scummy player for you at the moment? What do you think about the whole Fark situation? Flailing townie? or scum going down?
BTW, Do you also think I'm just wasting everyones time?

Enthusiasms... Enthusiasms... What are mine? What draws my admiration? What is that which gives me joy?

Hmm. Do you remember having ever played a game with her before? Does she know your playstyle?

If that is what you're admitting to I am frightened to think what you're still hiding.

Agreed about Fark, not entirely about the prankster. While it is possible that they are scum indeed, the probability that they are Town is considerably greater.

If we assume our messenger Fark is Town, the chance of a townie prankster is 71.5% and scum prankster is 28.5%.
If however the messenger is scum then they only have one player that can carry another PR. It's a mere 14.3% chance compared to Town's 85.7%

And all that means nothing conclusive. That is just how statistics work.

Don't spend much time on this. As you yourself attested, finding a pattern there is not easy.
I can't help thinking that you wasted a lot of time on it and only when you stopped you made your best post by far (#181)

4 posts isn't much I admit, but I actually would have a bunch more if I didn't pack all the replies together every time I finally manage to find time to play.

Like Micro, I liked post #181.

Okay here's the explanation I assumed would be there. Makes sense. CatV's regular behavior here, tends to town-ish.

What Fark said about that not being cryptoclaiming is true. Had it been cryptoclaiming Lift would have him modkilled because it's against the rules.
I also don't see why the extra accounts make him more likely to be scum. What does that matter? This specific part looks like you're trying to make something out of unimportant stuff.
The rest of your post however I tend to agree with... except for one tiny detail. You see, Fark does remind me of someone we played several games with. Yes, you did too. It is like we were playing with that very same person right now, you get it? And when he played, stuff like what you have against Fark would hold less weight than you're giving it.
Speaking of that other player, after palying with him several times I noticed changes in his writing patterns whenever he draws scum. I can't see that pattern anywhere. I'm almost certain you're pushing a townie's wagon, however justified it might seem to you.
Ouch. A selfvote is like... a cardinal sin!
I'm almost voting you for that, except for the fact that I believe you're Town. You should know better if you're as experienced as I think you are.

Then again, post #233 appears to be legit frustration. Can't fault you there if I'm reading you right, but still... keep trying to help us draw out scum, mate.
And hey, if you're Town and ends up investigated at least you will be a stump, you'll keep your voice and no one will suspect an agenda behind your posts afterwards, right?

Okay. Fine.

UNVOTE Fark

Only because I'm convinced there will never be enough votes to investigate no regardless of what I think.
Find me someone to vote for that isn't myself.