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Posted November 16, 2016
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zeogold: Forgive me if I come off as offensive, but this sounds to me like you're dangerously teetering on the edge of "This needs to be stopped because I don't like it and I say it's bad." Especially by bringing politics (Trump's election) into it out of nowhere.
Yeah but you always were sitting on the edge of "hey racism is not worse than antiracism, who are you to say it is bad". And this shit pseudo-relativism is precisely the issue here.

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zeogold: You can't kick someone out on the basis of their political viewpoints. How they express them, ok, sure.
There are also very polite ways to be a nazi. THAT would be the problem, for you ? Form over content ?
Post edited November 16, 2016 by Telika
Posted November 16, 2016
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Goodaltgamer: I give you a hint: 60 :P
...is that how old you are, or...?
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Goodaltgamer: On which ground? Why? How do you want to handle future incidents?
On the grounds of, as I said, harassment of the community. Look at the behavior of Tauto, who...well, I'm sure anybody on this place could tell you about HIM.
Or Regals, who came here with the literal sole purpose of harassing tinyE (let's not forget he threatened to post where tinyE supposedly lives/who he is, and somehow...accused him of child molestation...?) and lashes out on anyone else who gets close.
Or ciomalau, who only comes on here to enlighten us on how miserable everybody here is and how particular individuals need to die.
Post edited November 16, 2016 by zeogold
Posted November 16, 2016
One thing that did cross my mind, given possible rep abuse, is that maybe forum members shouldn't be able to down-vote posts until they've actually gained a fair standing in the community -- what level that is, I don't really know, but from what I can tell, it might well prevent newly-created users, or alts, from starting de-repping vendettas.
Post edited November 16, 2016 by blakstar
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zeogold: ...is that how old you are, or...?
I am not letting you of easy this time!
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zeogold: On the grounds of, as I said, harassment of the community. Look at the behavior of Tauto, who...well, I'm sure anybody on this place could tell you about HIM.
Or Regals, who came here with the literal sole purpose of harassing tinyE (let's not forget he threatened to post where tinyE supposedly lives/who he is, and somehow...accused him of child molestation...?) and lashes out on anyone else who gets close.
Or ciomalau, who only comes on here to enlighten us on how miserable everybody here is and how particular individuals need to die.
As I said, I know WHAT they are.
You just answered again WHAT they shall be banned for, but not WHY?

And I think that is also what Telika is looking for.

On which ground/Why, I have no other words.....
You just keep answering, because.
Yeah because I don't like their nose.
Posted November 16, 2016
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zeogold: You can't kick someone out on the basis of their political viewpoints. How they express them, ok, sure.
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Telika: There are also very polite ways to be a nazi. THAT would be the problem, for you ? Form over content ?
Post wiped, there's no need for this discussion. Just look at JMIch's suggestion.
Post edited November 16, 2016 by zeogold
Posted November 16, 2016
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blakstar: One thing that did cross my mind, given possible rep abuse, is that maybe forum members shouldn't be able to down-vote posts until they've actually gained a fair standing in the community -- what level that is, I don't really know, but from what I can tell, it might well prevent newly-created users, or alts, from starting de-repping vendettas.
I was thinking to say something, but might cause misunderstanding, hence I use the longer version:
Don't you think that would create a rift? Would this not lead to other possible shortcomings? (devils advocate here)
Also can't remember which username, did not one of the users gave/sold his account to Nes?
Posted November 16, 2016
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Telika: Yeah but you always were sitting on the edge of "hey racism is not worse than antiracism, who are you to say it is bad". And this shit pseudo-relativism is precisely the issue here.
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Goodaltgamer: You just answered again WHAT they shall be banned for, but not WHY?
Edit: You know, I forgot about JMich's suggestion. That really solves this entire thing. Just make it so that only the person who's offended by it can complain about it. Goodness knows that, with all the times I've playfully insulted tinyE, I could no doubt look bad to people who didn't know how much we banter back and forth with one another.
There's no need for this discussion, that's a solid solution.
Post edited November 16, 2016 by zeogold
Posted November 16, 2016
I'm not convinced this forum needs any "hands on" moderation, I check in here every so often (because I love u gaiz) and randomly pick threads - there's no trend of disrupting posts or organized (or disorganized) group that makes it hard for normal visitors to ask their questions, get answers, chat or otherwise socialize.

There's no sharing of illegal games, warez or porn, there's nothing going on that rings any warning bells. It's actually quite amazing how civil the gog.com forums are, considering that they are largely unmoderated.

I'm certainly no sympathizer of anarchist ideology, but forums like this make me think they may have some point.

(or maybe you guys are just awesome!)
Posted November 16, 2016
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blakstar: One thing that did cross my mind, given possible rep abuse, is that maybe forum members shouldn't be able to down-vote posts until they've actually gained a fair standing in the community -- what level that is, I don't really know, but from what I can tell, it might well prevent newly-created users, or alts, from starting de-repping vendettas.
That's...not a bad idea. I'd extend it to a limit on the ability to use rep at all, though. If positive rep were allowed for new accounts, in theory, someone could boost the rep of the alt accounts until they have the ability to downvote, then use those accounts to go right back to downvoting.
Post edited November 16, 2016 by zeogold
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Atlantico: I'm not convinced this forum needs any "hands on" moderation, I check in here every so often (because I love u gaiz) and randomly pick threads - there's no trend of disrupting posts or organized (or disorganized) group that makes it hard for normal visitors to ask their questions, get answers, chat or otherwise socialize.

There's no sharing of illegal games, warez or porn, there's nothing going on that rings any warning bells. It's actually quite amazing how civil the gog.com forums are, considering that they are largely unmoderated.

I'm certainly no sympathizer of anarchist ideology, but forums like this make me think they may have some point.

(or maybe you guys are just awesome!)
For (insert whatever deity:P ) sake, it has not spread into the sub-forums. But if you check just in the thread I mentioned in post 1 for the users regals and Tauto it is getting already clear. Most of the time those comments are rather quickly eliminated by the report as spam option. But If you would be attacked every single day by those two, you would feel different.
Regals even once posted proudly something like that: "I called every German user a NAZI, I have a hard one"

Hence this discussion.
Posted November 16, 2016
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Atlantico: I'm not convinced this forum needs any "hands on" moderation, I check in here every so often (because I love u gaiz) and randomly pick threads - there's no trend of disrupting posts or organized (or disorganized) group that makes it hard for normal visitors to ask their questions, get answers, chat or otherwise socialize.

There's no sharing of illegal games, warez or porn, there's nothing going on that rings any warning bells. It's actually quite amazing how civil the gog.com forums are, considering that they are largely unmoderated.

I'm certainly no sympathizer of anarchist ideology, but forums like this make me think they may have some point.

(or maybe you guys are just awesome!)
Heh, you knows, it's because of posts like these that i don't downvote + report spam, people end up getting the wrong idea of what goes around here...
Posted November 16, 2016
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blakstar: One thing that did cross my mind, given possible rep abuse, is that maybe forum members shouldn't be able to down-vote posts until they've actually gained a fair standing in the community -- what level that is, I don't really know, but from what I can tell, it might well prevent newly-created users, or alts, from starting de-repping vendettas.
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Goodaltgamer: I was thinking to say something, but might cause misunderstanding, hence I use the longer version:
Don't you think that would create a rift? Would this not lead to other possible shortcomings? (devils advocate here)
Also can't remember which username, did not one of the users gave/sold his account to Nes?
Not sure what you're actually trying to say. The way I envisioned it, newly created users would at least initially have to contribute in a positive way, theoretically being unable to cause harm to forum members of good standing. As I understand it, in most places, in real life at least, if you immediately acted like a jerk upon entering, you'd probably be summarily ejected.

This, of course, wouldn't affect their ability to buy from GOG, just restrict any damage they could cause on the forums.

As to the second argument, does that not contravene GOG's Terms of Service anyway, which should necessarily lead to termination of said service?
Posted November 16, 2016
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Cyraxpt: people end up getting the wrong idea of what goes around here...
tinyE, if you're out there, this is your cue for the Lego porn.
Post edited November 16, 2016 by zeogold
Posted November 16, 2016
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Cyraxpt: people end up getting the wrong idea of what goes around here...
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zeogold: tinyE, if you're out there, this is your cue for the Lego porn.
I'm trying to keep my nose clean in here. :P There are a lot of folks in here I consider friends and not all of them are getting along.
Posted November 16, 2016
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blakstar: snip
As to the second argument, does that not contravene GOG's Terms of Service anyway, which should necessarily lead to termination of said service?
Cut the first part as Zeogold did mentioned in his post (also) what I see as a short coming of this idea ;)

For the TOS/EULA:
Yes it does, but as GOG decided not to act upon. Like other stuff.......
You see the dilemma?
Another example I reported regals officially and .....

But as it seems that is why fables22 is here, so they finally might pick up this part ;)

EDIT: changed my response to avoid confusion
Post edited November 16, 2016 by Goodaltgamer
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