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Think of it this way...

In a normal game, scum team has a night kill. Lets say 12 players 9 town, 3 scum. After the night kill it becomes 8 town, 3 scum.
What the Cult has is basically the same thing but better. We still lose a townie, but scum also gains a member. So in the same scenario we'd go to 8 town and 4 scum. See how much better the night kill is this game?

Obviously, for this reason, they are not starting with 3 scum, but it doesn't take many nights where they end up better.

As to the no-lynch...
What do we lose?
We lose any and all information from the day. No players have to really defend themselves, no one has to vote anyone else. No one has to seem reluctant to join a wagon. In short, we learn NOTHING, it becomes a wasted day.

The odds that the Tracker picks the cult leader are slim, so we are almost certainly going to enter into Day 2 and have it be just another Random Voting Stage. Nothing will have changed. And if nothing changes, why wouldn't no-lynch be a "good option" again?

Usually the game is won and lost by the players noticing off responses. The game is not supposed to be won by power roles but by logic and deduction.

If we no-lynch, the cult gets their "dream result". They don't have to take any sides and blend into the group. They get a free townie kill and gain another ally. And town is still playing Day 1 over again, with no more real information than we had today.

Day 1 no-lynches pretty much always result in Day 2 being a Day 1 start over...
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Fuck dumb shit forum games.
So, again, it'd be really swell if everyone would place a vote at this point in the Day so we can see where things lie before the deadline is right upon us.
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RWarehall: So what's your plan then Dessimu?
The Day 2 plan is to lynch Wyrm's target. Doesn't matter what happens on D1 and/or N1, Wyrm's target is to be lynched on D2.

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RWarehall: What you are missing is the Cult DOES have a Night Kill as long as the Leader lives. Every night, unless the Doctor (Deprogrammer) protects his target, a townie dies.
No. It's not a night kill. A night kill would leave behind a flip. Saying the cult has a night kill is wrong, and also contradicting the mod.
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RWarehall: ...
We lose if we don't kill the Cult Leader in 3 days. No-lynching is freely giving up one of those days. After than, the cult will be too large and even if we hit the Leader, we'd have too many others to kill to win.
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Does that assume we don't lynch a cult member either?
Phone typing, short brake - no quotes.

@RWarehall

Here is what I don't like. You eagerly want a lynch to happen. You say No-Lynch is a dream of a CL, while basically it's exact opposite. Best course for CL himself is if lynch happens and townie is the victim. Even better, if it's one of three PR. Every mislynch we make shall bring cult closer to winning in the most simple manner that if CL is killed, goons have less townies to lynch to achieve their win condition.

I propose we vote No-Lynch today and start picking our real targets D2, where we should have CL and at least one goon as enemies. Chances are better already by then.

@ People, who are not RWarehall

Our friend here suggests with a lot of confidence that Cult Leader can perform both the kill and recruitment at the same night. While Lifthrasil said that at least cultists don't have a factional kill. My question to the smarter than me ones:

Can or can not CL do both said actions during same night?
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Dessimu: Can or can not CL do both said actions during same night?
RW is saying that the recruiting is the factional kill. There won't be a cult Night Kill in this game, ever.
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Fantasysci5: Honestly, it's my first time on the space station (playing), and it's hard to talk hypothetically about anything when I haven't seen how it works. But I know lurking is bad and that's why I was posting, just to add flavor and show I am reading, if not completely understanding everything. It actually makes me a little suspicious that you would expect a newcomer to contribute to the hypothetical statements, and makes me think you are part of the cult trying to throw doubt. :P
I didn't really get much slack for lack of content my first time (the time before this :D).
Heck, in fact, contribute anyhow! Lack of communication was probably why they strung me up!

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docbear1975: In what way did I disseminate incorrect information? That was certainly not my intention. I certainly could have misinterpreted something.
The same as Ixamyakxim, really. You talk of vague issues with Bookwyrm's claim and how he might actually be Cult Leader, and how it is bad for the ACTUAL Cult Leader, etc. How exactly is it bad for the actual cult leader?
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Nothing changed since the last vote count

Deadline will be the day after tomorrow.

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Public service announcement:

You may have been wondering, why I don't specify an exact time for the Deadline. The reasons are:
1. I don't want to encourage to wait for the last minute with the voting.
2. I think not-fixed deadlines helped improve the game in the past.
3. I'll be abroad starting tomorrow. I will find internet from time to time, but I can't tell yet exactly when I will be around to close the Day. So the End may strike you unexpectedly. If necessary (e.g. internet connection spotty or whatever) dedo may do the Day-ending instead.
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JMich: RW is saying that the recruiting is the factional kill. There won't be a cult Night Kill in this game, ever.
Got it. Thanks for clarifying.
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Lifthrasil: dedo may do the Day-ending instead.
And if I do it may very well be out of the blue. You won't get heads-up too much in advance, so consider get things going prior.
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RWarehall: ..............<snip>............

Usually the game is won and lost by the players noticing off responses. The game is not supposed to be won by power roles but by logic and deduction.

If we no-lynch, the cult gets their "dream result". They don't have to take any sides and blend into the group. They get a free townie kill and gain another ally. And town is still playing Day 1 over again, with no more real information than we had today.

Day 1 no-lynches pretty much always result in Day 2 being a Day 1 start over...
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I WILL NOT DOUBLE POST AGAIN OR I'LL GET MOD-KILLED

I WILL NOT DOUBLE POST AGAIN OR I'LL GET MOD-KILLED

Agreed. Follow the Cop (or deprogrammer & tracker??) is dumbing down the game.

The difference in replaying Day One again in this game is the voting wagon for Day One is less useful than for later days.

I do not think we're dealing with more than the cult leader at this juncture.

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JMich: There won't be a cult Night Kill in this game, ever.
The only way you could know that for sure is if you are the CL.
Correction to my previous post: the cult can kill, though they don't have the standard factional kill that mafia typically gets. Instead of the standard NK, they get something much more powerful.
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Fantasysci5: Honestly, it's my first time on the space station (playing), and it's hard to talk hypothetically about anything when I haven't seen how it works. But I know lurking is bad and that's why I was posting, just to add flavor and show I am reading, if not completely understanding everything. It actually makes me a little suspicious that you would expect a newcomer to contribute to the hypothetical statements, and makes me think you are part of the cult trying to throw doubt. :P
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babark: I didn't really get much slack for lack of content my first time (the time before this :D).
Heck, in fact, contribute anyhow! Lack of communication was probably why they strung me up!

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docbear1975: In what way did I disseminate incorrect information? That was certainly not my intention. I certainly could have misinterpreted something.
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babark: The same as Ixamyakxim, really. You talk of vague issues with Bookwyrm's claim and how he might actually be Cult Leader, and how it is bad for the ACTUAL Cult Leader, etc. How exactly is it bad for the actual cult leader?
Ah, I see. That was me more or less "thinking out loud." I was trying to grasp the various scenarios presented. I'm still suspicious of Bookwrym's claim, but I don't think he's the CL. I certainly wasn't trying to put out misinformation. I think I was just completely and totally confused. (Which I still am, I think).