Oh good. At least one of you has their head screwed on right.

I'm so very, very town.

My claim??

What's all the hostility Phil??

You claimed there is no good reason to "out" the Tracker. Now you are changing your tune (after adding to the role discussion) claiming we should stop doing it...inconsistent...

What are you worried about? Bookwyrm let the cat out of the bag. At this point it is worthwhile for town to discuss the ramnifications. To attempt to obstruct this, seems rather anti-town to me...

I went back and reread your post.

I was thinking you were commenting on the current level of information available to the cult leader.

I misread. Thanks for the clarification.

Meh, the head thing is debatable.

You are getting very spinney.

I haven't changed my tune. Your shit is weak.

Then you are sticking with your Post 60 claim? Because that was a poor, reactionary statement which is patently untrue. I think anyone who gives this some thought can see valid reasons for a Tracker to claim in those specific circumstances. This makes your statement wrong. Thus far, you are just dodging and weaving. You have been inconsistent and calling "my shit weak" is hardly a valid argument.

No problem. Assistance is my middle name.

Very interesting theories. Most are going over my head, but I'm trying to catch them, honest!

Reminds me of some pirate from Risen 2 game I think:

"But I didn't drink his booze, honest!"

1) The specific circumstances stated are just that....specific. My statement may be reactionary, but I still have strong feeling against exposing this role. JMich himself stated it is dependent on the tracker staying town and alive. What protection does the tracker have if exposed??

2) The tracker claiming in those specific circumstances makes my statement still my opinion. And exposing the tracker still a reckless endeavor.

3) I'm dodging and weaving nothing. You're making something of nothing. drealmer, ixamyakxim, docbear1979 also chimed in with opinions against it.

Well, its been interesting, but we have something else to consider: who gets lynched today.

Here's why we shouldn't No Lynch:
1) Until the CL is neutralized, every single No Lynch hands him a free night to try and convert someone.

Once the CL is neutralized, every No Lynch just stalls the game. When the CL is neutralized, we don't have to rush to vote, because the cult won't be growing any more, but town's win condition indicates that we lynch until one side loses.

How do we know when the CL is neutralized? We can know under certain, very specific circumstances. However, considering the specific nature of those circumstances, odds are good that we won't know when he is neutralized.

2) While the CL, as a role, can't be removed by today's lynch, I'd wager we do have a chance of eliminating a cult member. Since we can't win until every cult member is dead, I see absolutely no reason to delay getting started, and a very good reason not to delay (giving the CL a free night).

3) Every player that is eliminated shrinks the pool for our power roles to choose from. Even if we lynch town, that improves the chances of any of the power roles targeting correctly. If we delay lynching, then the number of cult members grows, and we give the CL more opportunities to steal our tracker and vig (which gives them a lot of extra power, in information and being able to safely claim).

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So, who to vote for?

Thus far, Drealmer has grabbed my attention, with his blatantly incorrect information.

The tracker seeing someone stay home does NOT confirm with certainty that the target is not the CL.
1) We have no indication that the CL is compulsive. He could choose to stay home one night, especially if he suspects he might be tracked.
2) The CL, if deprogrammed, will no longer be going anywhere at all.

And if the tracker is converted, then he could provide false results about someone(s).

Wait, what???

Lift mentioned somewhere I cannot find now that there are some "Special Rules" or something that prevents the Cult Leader from being killed today.

...does that make you feel surprised and safe, JMich?