Darvond: How do people this paranoid exist outside of sealed bunkers?

Darvond: How do people this paranoid exist outside of sealed bunkers?

john_hatcher: Some things come to my mind.
1. Would you tell your customers if you are going to do a bad thing in the near/distant future or would you rather lie to them?
2. Since you brought up the visit to Poland. How are the other (besides not making Galaxy mandatory) promises progressing? Like a new forum or whatever you were promised?
3. Do you have any proof that that most of the users use the Galaxy drm client?

paladin181: Who is forcing Galaxy?

timppu: The Master of the Universe, of course.

park_84: What interest does He-Man have in that?

timppu: Me-Man want everyone to succumb to the order of the Galaxy!

Darvond: How do people this paranoid exist outside of sealed bunkers?

Lexor: :o

mike_cesara: Yeah, your avatar somehow reminds of my childhood too..

GR00T: Actually, they've repeatedly stated that Galaxy will remain optional. Hell, they even flew 6 of us to Warsaw and told us to our faces that Galaxy will remain optional.

Sure, they're putting Galaxy in your face, and sure, they're promoting it heavily. That's because they want people to use it. It would be pretty stupid of them to pour resources into their client and not try to get people to use it. The thing is, the amount of their user base that doesn't want anything to do with a client and all the features it offers is extremely small. Most people want what Galaxy offers (social features, cloud saves, achievements, time tracking, a central game launcher/installer etc.) There are very few of us that don't really care about that.

It all comes down to whether you trust GOG or not. But if you don't, I don't see why you'd continue shopping here.

adaliabooks: 1 is just pure paranoia justifying. You can apply that logic to anything. The mailman is very nice to me, he's probably plotting to kill me. If you don't trust when GOG says they will remain DRM free then why are you even still here?
2 I wasn't there so can't really answer that and will leave it to GROOT
3. Do you have any proof that they don't? I would say the fact GOG devote so much time and resources to it suggests they know there is a demand for it. Unfortunately they're not likely to share this info with us.

Vainamoinen: The game I intended to download wasn't in need of either, but to answer the question:

"Auto-updates" just provide a developer with additional hardcore DRM opportunities as long as he keeps his game unplayably buggy, and/or relieve a developer of the requirement to release his game in a playable state. "Online features" in single player games have been introduced as and still are used as cheap DRM as well, it's just more obvious than in auto-updates. ;)

Would love to believe that, but that's just not how they're framing it any more. They're already describing the .exe as antique technology. In marketing, we'd call that "aggressive outphasing". I mean, who wants to be the loser using all that antique tech? :)

Whenever your profile syncs with Galaxy to update stats, whenever your trophies are updated, whenever you're auto-updating your game etc., they're incidentally verifying whether the game's in your account.

Technically, the difference to Steamworks DRM is non-existant, sorry. You want to use these "features", they're checking whether the game belongs to you.

It always was Valve's master trick to sell these additional DRM measures – plus the ultimate, the social media copy protection mechanisms that industry strength glue you to one service provider – as "features" on their platform. :(

kizuxtheo: How do people even play games nowadays being this paranoid to DRM? At this point they should just play old pre-2006 games with CD keys and stuff. Specially when they get so angry and outraged at possibly the only service that gives a damn about DRM-free games.

GOG checks online to see if you own the game before downloading it? Like, every single thing on the internet? Imagine just having a static url to all downloadable media without some kind of verification if you own it, the promised land of piracy.

When GOG actually removes the option of downloading .exe from their websites is when people should be outraged, not at every minuscule thing they do to try and make their service more convenient and approachable.

(also this was talking in general about people paranoid about Galaxy, not directed at you adaliabooks lol)