RWarehall's spreadsheet.

Curious if RW is tracking the flash sales, or just the more persistent sale items?

RWarehall tracks all (just have a look at the 'Notes' section of his spreadsheet for any title that's available in the flash sale).

Thanks for that (and thanks also to RWarehall). I think there's another (coulda sworn I saw it linked in some other thread a couple hours ago) showing the all-time best discount for every title.

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I should make one caveat to the whole thing: newer members might not know of these gOg-specific shopping tools like many of the regulars do.

You're welcome. I just favourite useful threads, like RWarehall's spreadsheet.
I didn't see other recent discounts thread yet, but I'm not done with reading the new threads. Or maybe you were thinking to this one?

Thanks! (to you, and certainly RW)

Maybe it's in there but I haven't found the post.

But hey - I did remember part of the url and searched on that. It's part of Yepoleb's GOG (improper capitalization his, not mine haha) Database: https://www.gogdb.org/products

Great piece of work, that.

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this is kool aid.

Flash sales are not pro-customer. They are a psychological attack on the customer.

In regards to point 2, if it makes sense for developers to sell their game at a certain pricepoint, then they should simply sell it at that pricepoint for the duration of the sale, without a sale inside the sale inside the sale or nonsense like that. If it doesn't make sense for them to sell at a certain pricepoint, then they should not sell at that pricepoint. They and their audience meet on common ground. This is better.

In regards to point 1, that is some scary logic. Your whole point is undermined by the very nature of the flash sale in and of itself.

Flash sales are ass. gog can do one if it wants. whatever. but this post is kool aid.

Semi-satirical kool-aid. I shoulda put a ; ) instead of a : )

I do think it's a dumb sales gimmick, especially considering the repetitions, but I don't find it at all consumer-unfriendly. And certainly not a psychological attack, at least not by any definition that I would consider serious.

Heard several comments of that sort in the other thread, that it's hurting the customer. I invite anyone hurt by the flash sale gimmick to post their story of how voluntarily buying a game at a discount caused harm.

Anyone? No? That's what I thought.


It should be noted that even with the flash sale, the buying process allows one to change their mind before spending the money; further, there is also the refund process if one has not yet downloaded the title. So to get harmed you have to A) choose to add the title(s) to your cart, B) go through the process of purchasing the title, and C) not take advantage of the refund policy.

I get that this thread is supposed to be funny but I am genuinely interested in hearing your take on lootboxes and it's relations to gambling. In other words: outside of outright scams, how much consumer-protection do you think there should be if any? Can it all be counted as poor impulse-control management on the part of the consumer or is there such a thing as "predatory" behaviour on the part of the seller?

For me "anti-consumer" is not an either/or thing, it's on a scale or spectrum and flash-sales are to me anti-consumer in that it triggers a psychological tendency in our brain to hoard - in other words the sale exploits evolutionary psychology to get us to buy more shit. But compared to many other shady sales-tactics flash-sales are still relatively tame in terms of being anti-consumer.

But this isn't a "gotcha" post. I'm very interested to hear where the line between customer protection and customer responsibility goes.

I haven't yet decided what I think about flash sales, but is there any way flash sales are more pro-consumer than offering the flash level discount for the game for the whole sale period?

Other relevant considerations : aren't flash sales a less stable and more risky model for the buyers? Ie I wanted the game at 75% off but there was a flash sale that put it at 80% off but I missed it now have to buy it at 60% off. If I had a price and budget in mind, isn't this worse? Especially if I purchase games only a few times a year with deep discounts, and I may have to wait a long time before I can buy it again?

And isn't the assurance that you have till the end of the sale to buy a game allow you to budget better and reconsider other games you are considering to purchase? Eg I find out I want Game X(which is more expensive than Game Y) more than Game Y but because I bought Game A during a flash sale I don't enough money for it, but if I had the time to discover X during my research, I could've gotten both the games I want.

Whatever this sale is, it sucks. There are only a small number of games included and they keep repeating ad nauseum. On top of that, most of them, and a LOT more, are available and cheaper on Steam right now, without chasing a flash sale. Thief, Deus Ex Invisible War, and Deus Ex GOTY, to name but a few, are only $0.97 on Steam.

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