Wrong. Hunter is polygon based. Just with fewer polygons per object than you are used to.

Did you actually watch the Hunter gameplay? It's entirely based on vector graphics rendered in real-time and unlike many later "3D shooters" actually uses the Z axis in the gameplay. From what I've seen even Fade to Black has actually 2D gameplay and is technically less of a 3D game than Hunter.

That's a good point and I agree.. I think it was my fault because I wanted to actually discuss first "true 3d" TPS but forgot to add the word "3d" in the title..

Because the feeling I got from true 3d titles like Fade to Black and Tomb Raider back when I was a kid was a totally brand new experience for me.. I will check hunter out to see if it's a %100 3d production like the 2 I mentioned..

Hunter is not the same genre as Max Payne which is not the same genre as Tomb Raider. Max Payne is a TPS the other two are not.

Technically stuff like Space Harrier (1985) & Afterburner (1988) from SEGA are 3rd person shooters.

http://www.mobygames.com/game/space-harrier

http://www.mobygames.com/game/after-burner



There is also Cabal (1988) which is like Operation Wolf but your character is at the bottom of the screen :

http://www.mobygames.com/game/cabal



One that does fit the bill quite well is Narco Police from Dinamic released 1989 available on Amiga, C64 and other machines from the 80's & 90's :

http://www.mobygames.com/game/narco-police

Goodie. :-) It was a good game though!

Before I add this reply I want to say that it was my fault as I didn't explain it well enough in the OP..

What I am looking for was the first third person shooter which is;

1- fully polygonal true 3d
2- features a 3d animated person as a protagonist.. not a spacecraft or a plane.. so I want to find the ancient equivalent of uncharted which is a real 3d third "person" shooter.. third-chopper-shooters or third-plane-shooters don't count.. Sorry that my first post wasn't this clear.. but I am interested in determining the first uncharted type 3d game..

3- the game should have a behind the person (or over the shoulder) camera while shooting..

none of the games listed meet all of these conditions..

Hunter is the most interesting example provided in this thread as it's fully polygonal 3d but I watched a 36 minute longplay on youtube and couldn't see any shooting with behind the protagonist camera.. am I missing something? It's an early example of open world gameplay.. it's like farcry but without shooting.. it may have paved the way for future 3d open world games but it's not the earliest example of uncharted type tps..

so unless anyone comes up with a different title that fits all the criteria, Fade to Black is the first "true 3d" third "person" shooter with "behind or over the shoulder camera" while shooting..

I will be more than happy if anyone can name an earlier title than Fade to Black because 1995 doesn’t sound ancient enough to me :)

and sorry again that what I clarified in this post is not what the thread title says..

it seems that is fade to black

i am looking because there was a 3d game that i rembember seeing in videos that it was behind the character, it was an army dude and had a bazooka it was for ps1 very early ,could be 95 like fade to black since the release of the ps1 was december 94 if not mistaken it could be maybe a demo also.

i remember that the fog didn´t let you see anything. i had a saturn but i clearly remember that game from a tv show called cybernet

I, Robot, from 1983.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I,_Robot_%28video_game%29

Now that's an interesting one.. it's not really an uncharted type gameplay but it is 1983-1984 so it's a game ahead of it's time.. it could probably be considered a TPS..

I don't know why but it is not listed here: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-person_shooter

is it because it's a forward scrolling shoot'em up? I think it is more of a TPS than many games listed on that wikipedia article..

Now if we are going to write a history of "3d", third "person" shooters with " over the shoulder camera and uncharted type gameplay, does it go like this:

1- I robot - 1983 (not really the type of shooter that I am looking for, but very much ahead of it's time and deserves consideration)
2- Fade to Black - 1995 (controlled pretty bad by today's standards.. modern gamers would throw their controllers out the window but it's definitely an example of a modern style TPS)
3- Tomb Raider - 1996 (no 3d game before this looked and controlled as TR did in my opinion.. best 3d character animations to date)

Is this the definitive list or is there any objection to I robot being classified as the earliest example of modern style TPS?

Lol.. I played it now XD

Its Spacewar! Released In 1962 Its True According To Wikipedia

Mass Effect....

can argue what ya want but the answer will remain the same