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From your list, start with Deus Ex & Thief. Then make sure you'll play the Infinity Engine cRPGs (Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, Planescape), followed by Neverwinter Nights, followed by Fallout, followed by Arcanum, followed by Alpha Centauri, Age of Wonders & Disciples. Then make a journey to Britania and more specifically to the great Stygian abyss. If you have some free time left after all these, you can play the rest of your listed games.

ps. you still have free time? let's fix that; play the Spiderweb games. :)
Post edited December 08, 2015 by Vythonaut
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nightcraw1er.488: We are talking about the same Bioshock yes? Has probably 5 different set pieces, 6 badguys, a story twist which can been seen coming from the next solar system, and the whole idea ripped off Jules verne? I just don't get why the game is so popular, zero variety or interest. Play Stalker or FEAR, or Shadow Warrior 2013!
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Crewdroog: you are entitled to your opinion. doesn't change mine.
or like everyone elses' http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/bioshock
Dark Souls (top ten worst PC game contender) got 74 on that site, really not going to take that as gospel. As for my post, I stand by it, play Shadow Warrior, FEAR or Stalker, far better. But for your benefit, thats in my opinion.
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Snowstone: I'm currently waiting for the winter sale on Steam to get it.

Can The Witcher be compared to Fable: The Lost Chapters?
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Matewis: It's been several years since I've played either, but from what I remember the atmosphere in the two games are completely different. Witcher (the 1st one) has far more of a 'realistic' dark ages feel to it. As for the combat, from what I remember, Witcher has a lot more depth, with an entire alchemy component thrown in for preparing oils to coat your sword with. The oils give your weapon bonuses against certain types of creatures. In fact I would suggest playing the game on hard, if for no other reason that even on normal difficulty it's never necessary to prepare any oils to defeat monsters. Fable by comparison has far more standard approach when it comes to combat. You can go the magic route or you can go the physical combat route, with the latter split into quick + light armour and slow + heavy armour. Again, it's been years since I played so I might be off on the details.
Both games are kinda semi-open world, and if memory serves you can visit most places again in Fable even late into the game. Witcher has a kind of chapter approach, with each chapter consisting of a bunch of large areas you can traverse freely, but these get closed to you when you move onto the next chapter/section. I remember being extremely upset when I learned I couldn't go back to a certain windmill in the beginning to meet with a fair maiden. She said I had to bring a bottle of wine, and I figured I could progress the story to enter the city where I would surely be able to find some wine. Sadly that constituted a new chapter/section and I never saw the windmill again :(
Of course Witcher is also more, uhm, mature :)
I knew The Witcher was more mature, but I thought it might have a similar playing style. Is it too much micro managing in terms of inventory?
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Snowstone: I knew The Witcher was more mature, but I thought it might have a similar playing style. Is it too much micro managing in terms of inventory?
Afraid I can't remember much about the inventory, but based on the screenshot it wouldn't appear so. I think you also had a chest somewhere that can hold more items (indefinitely many?). Probably the 'worst' part will be the management of alchemy components, if you decide to explore that.
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Post edited December 08, 2015 by Matewis
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Vythonaut: From your list, start with Deus Ex & Thief. Then make sure you'll play the Infinity Engine cRPGs (Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, Planescape), followed by Neverwinter Nights, followed by Fallout, followed by Arcanum, followed by Alpha Centauri, Age of Wonders & Disciples. Then make a journey to Britania and more specifically to the great Stygian abyss. If you have some free time left after all these, you can play the rest of your listed games.

ps. you still have free time? let's fix that; play the Spiderweb games. :)
You seem to have great tastes ;)
That tells me I should try the only game on your list I don’t know (yet): Disciples.
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Snowstone: [...] Is it too much micro managing in terms of inventory?
Not really. There is an auto-sort button (which isn't very helpful), and, as Matewis said, you can access a permanent 'stash' (if I remember right, only through innkeepers/bartenders). Of course, if you indulge in the typical RPG activity of stealing/looting anything that's not nailed down (which you can do if you want, as there don't seem to be any consequences for doing so), you might run into some inventory problems; but it's really not meant to be that kind of game. I would suggest moderation -- for example, don't steal every single thing you find in every peasant's home you visit, but by all means loot any enemies/monsters you kill, and any "dungeons" you visit.
I should note one major thing: you can't carry weapons in your normal inventory, only in dedicated weapon slots. As you only have three or four of those, it effectively means it's pointless to kill lots of human opponents for their weapons, since you'll only be able to carry two or three extra (besides your own weapon(s)), and any weapons left lying on the ground when you go off to sell stuff WON'T still be there when you come back. So it's really not a loot-gathering/sorting/hoarding type of game like The Elder Scrolls titles (or a lot of other ARPGs). The focus here is on story, character and atmosphere.
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vv221: You seem to have great tastes ;)
That tells me I should try the only game on your list I don’t know (yet): Disciples.
Thank you! :)

Disciples I & II are very good TB strategy games and I really like their art direction. They share many similarities with the HoMM series but also have some differences in their gameplay, most notably in the way the battles work.

Keep an eye on the daily deals of the sale as I'm pretty sure they'll appear sooner or later. Also, take a look in Eador: Genesis, if you haven't done it already. :)
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nightcraw1er.488: We are talking about the same Bioshock yes? Has probably 5 different set pieces, 6 badguys, a story twist which can been seen coming from the next solar system, and the whole idea ripped off Jules verne? I just don't get why the game is so popular, zero variety or interest. Play Stalker or FEAR, or Shadow Warrior 2013!
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Crewdroog: you are entitled to your opinion. doesn't change mine.
or like everyone elses' http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/bioshock
It doesn't change mine either.

Bioshock is hands down a better game than Shadow Warrior 2013. Shadow Warrior is totally awkward and unpolished. It deserves about a 6.5 out of 10. And you're dissing Bioshock for being derivative and then suggesting a flat out remake? There's the old saying "There's no accounting for taste."
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Vythonaut: Keep an eye on the daily deals of the sale as I'm pretty sure they'll appear sooner or later. Also, take a look in Eador: Genesis, if you haven't done it already. :)
I’ll make sure to remember this title too!
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Crewdroog: you are entitled to your opinion. doesn't change mine.
or like everyone elses' http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/bioshock
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barleyguy: It doesn't change mine either.

Bioshock is hands down a better game than Shadow Warrior 2013. Shadow Warrior is totally awkward and unpolished. It deserves about a 6.5 out of 10. And you're dissing Bioshock for being derivative and then suggesting a flat out remake? There's the old saying "There's no accounting for taste."
I didn't say it was derivative, although the story is ripped straight from Jules Verne. No, my point is that every scene is exactly the same as the one before, there are only 6 distinct enemies, of which the splicers are more or less the same. The story twist at the end is obvious. So no, nothing appealed on my play through. I woudn't put SW at the top, my order of play would be:
FEAR
Stalker
Thief (assuming 1 or 2)
The Witcher
Shadow Warrior
Thief (assuming number 3)
Dark Messiah Might and Magic
Jade Empire
KOTOR 2
Deus Ex (not sure about this one, vaguely remember playing it and not getting on with it)
Portal 2 (never played)
Thief (assuming fourth)
Bioshock
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Crewdroog: you are entitled to your opinion. doesn't change mine.
or like everyone elses' http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/bioshock
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nightcraw1er.488: Dark Souls (top ten worst PC game contender) got 74 on that site, really not going to take that as gospel. As for my post, I stand by it, play Shadow Warrior, FEAR or Stalker, far better. But for your benefit, thats in my opinion.
for my benefit? lol