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Motion sickness, blegh. I think the first time I got that bad was Spyro the Dragon on PS1. I got so sick playing that game, I barely last a couple of minutes. And it's that horrible lingering sickness as well.

I got the same watching people play Unreal Tournament 3 (despite having played UT1 for ages). Less so when I play myself though, but still a bit with UT3
Post edited July 02, 2018 by Pheace
I don't know why Bethesda games would give you an issue. But faster games I can fully understand. I get motion sick with racing games or at minimum, I find it extremely hard to concentrate. I get it with like Tetris, Dr Mario and other primitive brick drop games. Especially when they have colour. Why? I have no idea. Sad too cause I love those games. lol
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kusumahendra: Set FoV to 90 = motion sickness
Set FoV to 82 / 85 = this game is great
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MadalinStroe: For the same game? That shouldn't happen. However if they are different games, you should keep in mind that some games use vertical FOV, even though they still call it just FOV. Vertical FOV of 82 = horizontal FOV of 114, which is more than sufficient to avoid motion sickness.
Same game. And they are not vertical FoV

If I play half life 2 using 90 FoV I'll be sick, but 85 I'll be fine

All elder scroll, 90 is fine

Dishonored, 85

All games are different for me
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kusumahendra: Same game. And they are not vertical FoV

If I play half life 2 using 90 FoV I'll be sick, but 85 I'll be fine
Actually, I pretty sure that, Half Life 2 uses vertical FOV. Am I miss-remembering this? I can't seem to find something about this, one way or the other.

I have no explanation for the other games. But even so, I never play at 90 FOV, as I still find it too low and it gives me a headache. On a 16:9 aspect screen, I use 105-110FOV.
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kusumahendra: Same game. And they are not vertical FoV

If I play half life 2 using 90 FoV I'll be sick, but 85 I'll be fine
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MadalinStroe: Actually, I pretty sure that, Half Life 2 uses vertical FOV. Am I miss-remembering this? I can't seem to find something about this, one way or the other.

I have no explanation for the other games. But even so, I never play at 90 FOV, as I still find it too low and it gives me a headache. On a 16:9 aspect screen, I use 105-110FOV.
On 16:9 FoV 85-90 is perfect for me. More than 90 I'll get a headache

What worth mentioning is my eyes are imbalance. My left eye can't read, everything is blurry. My right eye was normal, now it's weaker and I need glasses to read. At the beginning I can't play fps at all. Doom would make me sick in no time , goldeneye 64 I could handle it for half an hour max. It was until Halo slow movement and long distance view I finally can play fps and build resistance to motion sickness.

These days I can play more or less all modern fps with no problems. But if I goes back to play old games, chances are I'll get the sickness. Last one was Red Faction. I forgot I have motion sickness until I played that game
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Samet42: or other games ?
Return to Castle Wolfenstein

Those stairs... motion sickness FTL...
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kusumahendra: On 16:9 FoV 85-90 is perfect for me. More than 90 I'll get a headache

What worth mentioning is my eyes are imbalance. My left eye can't read, everything is blurry. My right eye was normal, now it's weaker and I need glasses to read. At the beginning I can't play fps at all. Doom would make me sick in no time , goldeneye 64 I could handle it for half an hour max. It was until Halo slow movement and long distance view I finally can play fps and build resistance to motion sickness.

These days I can play more or less all modern fps with no problems. But if I goes back to play old games, chances are I'll get the sickness. Last one was Red Faction. I forgot I have motion sickness until I played that game
Who knows. The human body is a strange machine. As I said, personally, I can only play FPS games if the FOV is much higher than the generally accepted 90FOV. But then again I always get car sick, when I try checking my message on my phone, while the car is in motion.
I don't think(***) I've noticed the motion-sickness with games (even with Descent series, which I've heard is very problematic to some people), but many type of games do make me oddly tired. And I don't mean just jokingly "yeah it is so boring that I'd fall asleep he he I'm a comedian get it?", but really like I am fully awake and after a good night sleep and drink a big mug of coffee, but I started wondering whether I have a latent narcolepsy with certain types of games.

I recall the first Baldur's Gate being like that (yes I considered it boring, unlike e.g. BG2 or Icewind Dale), or many point&click adventure games where I don't make much of progress but just wander around, not knowing what to do. Sometimes I can play such games only like 15-30 minutes and feel like I should hit the sack, even if it isn't really time to go to sleep yet.

(***)I recall there being a couple of cases where I did feel a bit "odd" playing some FPS game, maybe it was even a slight nausea, but could be just as well I was just tired. But nothing that would have prevented me from playing those games.


But the very oddest FPS game for me must have been Area-51. Before that game I had played FPS games for years with vertically inverted controls, it always felt the most natural to me (mouse down = aim up, a bit like pulling your head backwards in order to see up, felt more natural than moving the mouse up/forward to look up). Possibly this was related to me playing flight and space combat sims with inverted controls as well.

When playing Area-51, I had massive trouble with mouse aiming for some reason, I really couldn't understand why. Then I happened to try it with non-inverted aiming... and lo and behold, I could aim just fine. And after that game, I had to play all my FPS games with uninverted controls, even those I had previously played with inverted controls.

I never understand how a game can flip a switch in my brains just like that. That sure is some crazy Area-51 alien shit technology affecting my brainwaves or something.
Post edited July 02, 2018 by timppu
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Fairfox: why was mah post lo-rated
it was accurate
It annoys me whenever I see that happen to you. Most people on forums are pretty much interchangeable. There needs to be a few characters like you around to... I don't know how to put it in words, but I suppose "inject personality into the forums" is close enough. Adding insult to injury, if you ignore your way of speaking (and the occasional civil war reference XD) the things you say are no less relevant than the things everyone else says.


On to the actual topic: This is called simulator sickness. Maybe don't quote me on this, but IIRC its believed to be caused by conflicting sensory input. Like your eyes tell your brain your moving, but the rest of you tells your brain your not moving. Brain doesn't know what to make of that.
Post edited July 02, 2018 by MobiusArcher
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MadalinStroe: But then again I always get car sick, when I try checking my message on my phone, while the car is in motion.
That's exactly me! And before I started driving myself, I would also usually get car sick just by being inside a moving car. So I am a bit concerned about playing first person games (I am one of the few people on Earth who have never played those first-person classics everybody mentions when this topic arises).

Do you also get sick from watching gameplay videos? I have looked for some and I seem not to get sick (although sometimes when the camera moves too fast there's this strange feeling).
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MadalinStroe: But then again I always get car sick, when I try checking my message on my phone, while the car is in motion.
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Caesar.: That's exactly me! And before I started driving myself, I would also usually get car sick just by being inside a moving car. So I am a bit concerned about playing first person games (I am one of the few people on Earth who have never played those first-person classics everybody mentions when this topic arises).

Do you also get sick from watching gameplay videos? I have looked for some and I seem not to get sick (although sometimes when the camera moves too fast there's this strange feeling).
In my experience, it's easier to get sick for watching other people play the game, than to play it yourself.

If you really want to, try a slow fps game with big open environment. I played Halo to train my resistance to motion sickness. An elder scroll game such as Skyrim or Oblivion might be a good choice to start playing in first person view
Can't say I've ever felt sick-ish, but I did get a vague (but actual) feeling of vertigo in some areas of Dying Light. I would not have played that game in VR, that much I can be sure of.
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Caesar.: That's exactly me! And before I started driving myself, I would also usually get car sick just by being inside a moving car. So I am a bit concerned about playing first person games (I am one of the few people on Earth who have never played those first-person classics everybody mentions when this topic arises).

Do you also get sick from watching gameplay videos? I have looked for some and I seem not to get sick (although sometimes when the camera moves too fast there's this strange feeling).
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kusumahendra: In my experience, it's easier to get sick for watching other people play the game, than to play it yourself.

If you really want to, try a slow fps game with big open environment. I played Halo to train my resistance to motion sickness. An elder scroll game such as Skyrim or Oblivion might be a good choice to start playing in first person view
I'll keep that in mind, thanks. I am very curious about The Elder Scrolls, but I am terrified of all the time I would have to devote to those games (once I let myself into one fantasy world, I commit entirely).