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Google's Censorious Urges are Playing a very dangerous Game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9j2PoeXsKQ
Yep! It's been going on for quiet a while.
Post edited July 16, 2019 by Tauto
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fr33kSh0w2012: Google's Censorious Urges are Playing a very dangerous Game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9j2PoeXsKQ
Google, Facebork, Twatter, Youtube, etc all want to CONTROL the public discourse and what we learn/consume online & mold it to the current "in" trends and beliefs....i.e. the current being the PC/leftist viewpoints.

And with them in control of most sites and with few alternatives they effectively CAN and will do so unless someone puts a stop to it legally.
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i like google. i <3 google. i am a slave to google. mmm... gooey goo google
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fr33kSh0w2012: Google's Censorious Urges are Playing a very dangerous Game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9j2PoeXsKQ
Regardless of your stance on the issue this doesn’t seem like a very legit source for any info. And the story he talks about of the google exec is from a guy who has made fake videos in the past and has already been debunked. Google may very well have a bias, but this is poor “evidence” of one.... a random internet stranger referencing a fake video from a guy who has cried wolf before isn’t to be taken too seriously. But if you have better sources I’m all ears.
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fr33kSh0w2012: Google's Censorious Urges are Playing a very dangerous Game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9j2PoeXsKQ
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GameRager: Google, Facebork, Twatter, Youtube, etc all want to CONTROL the public discourse and what we learn/consume online & mold it to the current "in" trends and beliefs....i.e. the current being the PC/leftist viewpoints.

And with them in control of most sites and with few alternatives they effectively CAN and will do so unless someone puts a stop to it legally.
They already control far too much of the public eye and should be regulated as much as television stations are.
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fr33kSh0w2012: Google's Censorious Urges are Playing a very dangerous Game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9j2PoeXsKQ
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firstpastthepost: Regardless of your stance on the issue this doesn’t seem like a very legit source for any info. And the story he talks about of the google exec is from a guy who has made fake videos in the past and has already been debunked. Google may very well have a bias, but this is poor “evidence” of one.... a random internet stranger referencing a fake video from a guy who has cried wolf before isn’t to be taken too seriously. But if you have better sources I’m all ears.
May very well? Talk about DOES......otherwise they'd be banning people from BOTH sides of the aisle at the same rate.

(Truth is without such sources, credible or no, we'd be in the dark on many things due to MSM refusing to cover them)

Also what good sources? MSM?

Bwahahahaha
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GameRager: Google, Facebork, Twatter, Youtube, etc all want to CONTROL the public discourse and what we learn/consume online & mold it to the current "in" trends and beliefs....i.e. the current being the PC/leftist viewpoints.

And with them in control of most sites and with few alternatives they effectively CAN and will do so unless someone puts a stop to it legally.
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paladin181: They already control far too much of the public eye and should be regulated as much as television stations are.
Yup
Post edited July 16, 2019 by GameRager
They'll soon rebrand in a joint program with Facebook and Twitter called Big Brother. Just wait and see.
google does suck, use bing and edge instead.
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firstpastthepost: Regardless of your stance on the issue this doesn’t seem like a very legit source for any info. And the story he talks about of the google exec is from a guy who has made fake videos in the past and has already been debunked. Google may very well have a bias, but this is poor “evidence” of one.... a random internet stranger referencing a fake video from a guy who has cried wolf before isn’t to be taken too seriously. But if you have better sources I’m all ears.
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GameRager: May very well? Talk about DOES......otherwise they'd be banning people from BOTH sides of the aisle at the same rate.

(Truth is without such sources, credible or no, we'd be in the dark on many things due to MSM refusing to cover them)

Also what good sources? MSM?

Bwahahahaha
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paladin181: They already control far too much of the public eye and should be regulated as much as television stations are.
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GameRager: Yup
Source criticism doesn't mean that you should refute news outlets you don't like, it's simply looking at what sources the news outlet has for its claim and think about whether it's feasible or not. That goes for both MSM and alternative media, a reliable source is a reliable source even if it's framed in opinions we don't agree with.

Not necessarily directing this at you GameRager since I don't know your thoughts on this. This topic just reminded me that there are tons of people who need to be reminded of what real source criticism is, for some reason people tend to forget that more and more.
I tend to stay away from this type of posts... BUT, do people remember that Fb "scandal" where a data company had "some" influence on major political elections? Not too long ago.
After this, nothing else is susprising (except if you are EA).
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Private companies can do what they want. Google could announce to the world they're banning all "Conservative" content if they wanted to, and that would be fine. Conservatives would then be free to stop using it, and rush back to Yahoo or whoever else. That's freedom baby.

A lot of today's "Conservatives" are far from Conservative on this issue lately though, sadly.
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StingingVelvet: Private companies can do what they want. Google could announce to the world they're banning all "Conservative" content if they wanted to, and that would be fine. Conservatives would then be free to stop using it, and rush back to Yahoo or whoever else. That's freedom baby.

A lot of today's "Conservatives" are far from Conservative on this issue lately though, sadly.
While I normally agree that private companies are protected by the First Amendment - there are exceptions as freedom of speech isn't absolute. For one Google is protected from lawsuits by laws treating various online platforms as public squares. The problem is that if you ban certain speech the square really isn't public is it?

The reach and power of Google create anothe dilemma. Monopolies and oligopolies pose an issue. If Google bans you - okay fine, if Google, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, Apple etc all ban you then there's a problem (and if they all ban you one after another - then you have evidence of a cartel). Furthermore should some of the services Google provides be considered utilities? Is Google's reach be that tremendous? Could be - landlines are considered utilities and they aren't as popular as Google is right now. Utilities can't deny service except in some very specific circumstances such as non-payment (and even then they can't do so absolutely).

Of course this is all secondary to the idea that Google seems to want to supplant the government. A private corporation controlling the goverment should be the last thing anyone wants (the government has checks and balances - a corporation does not). I like playing Shadowrun - I don't want to actually live it. I like politics out of my games, but I also want my games out of my politics thank you very much.
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tremere110: While I normally agree that private companies are protected by the First Amendment - there are exceptions as freedom of speech isn't absolute. For one Google is protected from lawsuits by laws treating various online platforms as public squares. The problem is that if you ban certain speech the square really isn't public is it?
I would certainly be for possibly curtailing some of those benefits if they keep restricting content. I don't think private entities should get ANY government assistance or breaks like that, honestly. I think that's more an argument for reigning in those policies than for controlling what Google allows on their platforms though.
Google does omit results from searches. Openly and not.
I simply don't trust them anymore.
Of course, we all know they do similar stuff with YouTube, so it shouldn't be some surprise, really.
And this isn't some Left vs Right thing. It's establishment media vs independent media.
Post edited July 16, 2019 by Plumb