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Posted December 14, 2017
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The FCC voted 3-2 to repeal Net Neutrality (the government regulation created in 2015 branding all ISPs as Title II utilities) and the internet did not break. What. A. Shock.

But now my fellow Americans and I can no longer go to GOG, Steam, Facebppk, Snapchat, Youtube, etc., etc., etc. just like before 2015 - oh wait - we could do all that before and can do all that now.

Happy to have the free-market internet back, now no unelected government bastard can just dictate what and how data is transferred over the net by fiat. We aren't China just letting the government bureaucracy create the great firewall.
Posted December 14, 2017
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MajicMan: The FCC voted 3-2 to repeal Net Neutrality (the government regulation created in 2015 branding all ISPs as Title II utilities) and the internet did not break. What. A. Shock.

But now my fellow Americans and I can no longer go to GOG, Steam, Facebppk, Snapchat, Youtube, etc., etc., etc. just like before 2015 - oh wait - we could do all that before and can do all that now.

Happy to have the free-market internet back, now no unelected government bastard can just dictate what and how data is transferred over the net by fiat. We aren't China just letting the government bureaucracy create the great firewall.
Of course nothing's changed yet. Give it time though and see if you still feel the same.
Posted December 14, 2017
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These "control the internet goons" will be back five years from now, like how they were back before.

The government has unlimited resources, money. They will bide their time and come back again with some new "censorship is good" verbiage to control and restrict the internet.

I won't be surprised if they use "we need to control the internet to protect the children" OR "we need to control the internet to stop terrorism" crap all over again.
Posted December 14, 2017
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MajicMan: Happy to have the free-market internet back, now no unelected government bastard can just dictate what and how data is transferred over the net by fiat. We aren't China just letting the government bureaucracy create the great firewall.
Actually, repealing Net Neutrality means that each and every ISP can employ their own great firewall. If your ISP doesn't like website X, they can just assign it 0.5 KB/s bandwidth (total, not per customer) and say that if you don't like it, pay for our family vacations to have access to it.
But yeah, that's a good thing /sarcasm.
Posted December 14, 2017
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This thread will end badly. Everything in flames, severed limbs will scatter the floor, those kind of things...
Posted December 14, 2017
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Oh goody. They the got the "gubmint" out of the internet business. Now we'll have a "free" internet.... because freedom...

Yeah, those terrific private corporations are always stand up citizens that look for what's best for everybody instead of their bottom line. So no worries, they wouldn't dare charge to see some sites, slow down some sites, or even block some. Nope. Never happen. Because freedom.

I keep waking up every day and thinking I'm living in a fucking nightmare but instead this stupid fucking country (and whole world) just keeps on moving further right every day... to the grins of the few and the suffering of the many. But you know, there is no better way to do things....
Posted December 14, 2017
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MajicMan: The FCC voted 3-2 to repeal Net Neutrality (the government regulation created in 2015 branding all ISPs as Title II utilities) and the internet did not break. What. A. Shock.

But now my fellow Americans and I can no longer go to GOG, Steam, Facebppk, Snapchat, Youtube, etc., etc., etc. just like before 2015 - oh wait - we could do all that before and can do all that now.

Happy to have the free-market internet back, now no unelected government bastard can just dictate what and how data is transferred over the net by fiat. We aren't China just letting the government bureaucracy create the great firewall.
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GR00T: Of course nothing's changed yet. Give it time though and see if you still feel the same.
Yeah, like when T-Mobile offered its customers Binge On - in which they partnered with Netflix and Hulu to offer unlimited streaming from those two services without it counting against your data plan - only then the FCC sued and shut it down because it violated NN. The very first NN action was to prevent a private company from offering customers a bonus service and a service that was used to compete with other private businesses. I was so much better off having Netflix and Hulu count against my data plan as opposed to the pre-NN days when I could watch it unlimited with no data plan usage.

Bring back Binge On!

Also, if you live in a rural area where your phone is your internet and you have very limited data usage, Binge On is an amazing deal.

Here is an article on the Binge On and customers getting screwed by NN.

Oh yeah, as part of the deal T-Mobile would pay the $120 yearly fee for Netflix too, if you were a customer. Here.

Free market, baby. It's stunning Denny's, IHOP, Perkins, Friendly's, Bob Evans and Cracker Barrel can all charge different prices for pancakes and offer unlimited pancake promotions without it violating some pancake neutrality BS.
Post edited December 14, 2017 by MajicMan
Posted December 14, 2017
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GR00T: Of course nothing's changed yet. Give it time though and see if you still feel the same.
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MajicMan: Yeah, like when T-Mobile offered its customers Binge On - in which they partnered with Netflix and Hulu to offer unlimited streaming from those two services without it counting against your data plan - only then the FCC sued and shut it down because it violated NN. The very first NN action was to prevent a private company from offering customers a bonus service and a service that was used to compete with other private businesses. I was so much better off having Netflix and Hulu count against my data plan as opposed to the pre-NN days when I could watch it unlimited with no data plan usage.

Bring back Binge On!

Also, if you live in a rural area where your phone is your internet and you have very limited data usage, Binge On is an amazing deal.

Here is an article on the Binge On and customers getting screwed by NN.
And what did Binge On offer that the superior Netflix does not?
Posted December 14, 2017
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MajicMan: I was so much better off having Netflix and Hulu count against my data plan as opposed to the pre-NN days when I could watch it unlimited with no data plan usage.
Yes, you were. The Binge On (and similar Binge On) means you are driven towards a monopoly. If only site X gets said benefit, that site will be getting the customers other sites would be getting. So instead of promoting free market (you are free to choose any streaming service) Binge On actually stifled it (you get a lesser deal if you don't choose Netflix or Hulu).
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MajicMan: Free market, baby. It's stunning Denny's, IHOP, Perkins, Friendly's, Bob Evans and Cracker Barrel can all charge different prices for pancakes and offer unlimited pancake promotions without it violating some pancake neutrality BS.
Do they offer unlimited pancake to people that drive Mazda while not offering the same deal to people who drive Ford? Because that is what Binge On was doing, offering free service to people using one site and denying said service to people using a different one.
And from what I recall, doing that would actually violate a few laws.
Posted December 14, 2017
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MajicMan: Free market, baby.
Yeah, there's never in the history of the world been any examples of private owner colluding, monopolizing, and/or otherwise doing everything in their power to enrich themselves at the expense of their employees, the environment, and/or the society. No need for any government at all.
Posted December 14, 2017
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Well congrats to whatever ISP you are shareholder off I guess. My condolences to the rest of the US and anyone with a Government which would be trying to copy this corrupt fuckfest.
Posted December 14, 2017
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MajicMan: But now my fellow Americans and I can no longer go to GOG, Steam, Facebppk, Snapchat, Youtube, etc., etc., etc. just like before 2015 - oh wait - we could do all that before and can do all that now.
This decision will have long term effects (among other things, it could see average US internet speeds plummet down the worldwide rankings). Rarely is life so dramatic as to present a big red button that changes everything overnight, and the absence of immediate consequences doesn't validate your beliefs. Check back with us in five years.
Posted December 14, 2017
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I'm confused.

Is GWENT a stand alone game from Witcher or a sequel?
Posted December 14, 2017
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MajicMan: [...] We aren't China just letting the government bureaucracy create the great firewall.
No, you are in the US of A where you are letting the big corporations do it instead.
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tinyE: I'm confused.

Is GWENT a stand alone game from Witcher or a sequel?
its a rebooted prequel
Post edited December 14, 2017 by amok
Posted December 14, 2017
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tinyE: I'm confused.

Is GWENT a stand alone game from Witcher or a sequel?
Reboot.
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