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Tauto: That's what I expected here, know all's putting the boot in and talking crap about someone else's tragedy.
It's called honest criticism, and should be allowed to be leveled where warranted. Yes he lost his child, and that is tragic whenever it happens, but he isn't a perfect saint(The man used his son's death to get some time in the papers & complain about the hobby that his son loved after letting his son waste away without doing anything to stop it).

I don't believe either that the "don't speak ill of the dead or grieving" maxim is or should be absolute......bad actions should and sometimes need to be criticized to hold people accountable and to try to make sure said things don't happen again(and to make people aware of bad issues that need fixing in society).

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Acriz: It is gaming related, since games are so charming and all-encompassing that you can easily forget to move for a prolonged period of time. Moving a little bit, getting up and stretching a little at least once every hour, is generally good advice.
By that I meant it is framed as if the games alone were what killed the kid....as in playing the games(standing or sitting) is what killed him. That is improper and misleading framing.

The kid also might have been using the PC for other things besides gaming, but they focus on the gaming and not just label it "Overuse of PC/sitting at desk leads to kid's death"...they intentionally focused on game/gaming.
Post edited November 07, 2019 by GameRager
You see a handful of these type of incidents pop up every year. Ignoring sleep and other basic needs never has good consequences. I do think game makers are more and more to blame as they make their games to be addictive time sinks. People with addictive personalities are put at risk thanks to how similar videogames have become to video lottery terminals. We all got our weaknesses that we need to recognize and deal with, though. Sadly, there will always be a few tragedies like this one.
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clarry: I don't understand. Is he saying that computer gives you stroke? That would be news.
Not the computers per se.

I'm not a doctor or anything, but I reckon sitting at your computer all day and all night will hinder proper blood circulation, which will eventually clog up your arteries which WILL give you a stroke.

Doubly so if you're a fatass who subsides entirely on junk food (which seems to be the case here).
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SSolomon: You see a handful of these type of incidents pop up every year. Ignoring sleep and other basic needs never has good consequences. I do think game makers are more and more to blame as they make their games to be addictive time sinks. People with addictive personalities are put at risk thanks to how similar videogames have become to video lottery terminals. We all got our weaknesses that we need to recognize and deal with, though. Sadly, there will always be a few tragedies like this one.
This is all sadly true, but we'd likely have less incidents if parents would actually give a man about their kids more & not just give them a tablet/phone and leave them to their own devices until something bad happens.
Lots of fingers getting pointed here. Come on, we all played tons of games in our teens and many of us probably ate like crap. For all we know this kid might have had really bad luck and died from circumstances most of us survived with good health.
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DadJoke007: Lots of fingers getting pointed here. Come on, we all played tons of games in our teens and many of us probably ate like crap. For all we know this kid might have had really bad luck and died from circumstances most of us survived with good health.
True enough, but some of them are warranted like parents should not wait to grieve after the fact and actually raise the kids they chose to have.
until an autopsy gives cause of death I would take this as tragic news, sensationalized for whatever reasons. It could be he had an existing aneuryism or heart defect etc. Now if autopsy shows blood clot from sitting too long and diet insufficiency or dehydration that would give pause, but would be applicable to any sedentary actions, like graphic and game designers or writers. naturally media will blame gaming as the big dark evil, the favorite beat boy of derision, whilst they ignore all the other hobbies that are far more injury and death prone like adventure sports for rich people, wanna be athletes and the list goes on.
Extreme gaming is clearly unhealthy, imo it's a disturbing sign of the atomization of modern society and the feelings of worthlessness and despair many young men have to endure (also one of the reasons for the nihilistic incel movement imo). There should be more efforts to produce a spirit of meaningful community, e.g. by providing paramilitary training at school. If he had spent his time marching and shooting in the real world instead of just sitting in front of his computer all day, that gaming addict might still be alive.
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morolf: Extreme gaming is clearly unhealthy, imo it's a disturbing sign of the atomization of modern society and the feelings of worthlessness and despair many young men have to endure (also one of the reasons for the nihilistic incel movement imo). There should be more efforts to produce a spirit of meaningful community, e.g. by providing paramilitary training at school. If he had spent his time marching and shooting in the real world instead of just sitting in front of his computer all day, that gaming addict might still be alive.
That is so silly it must be a joke.....and it's a good one.

I agree we need to get kids more active, though, and that parents should be more mindful of their kids.
Nah, reducing his screen time wouldn't have helped I think. Question is always why someone is addicted to something and the answer often is that they've got little else to live for. Kid was probably depressed or had the feeing that there wasn't anything else in life for him to chase.

As for lack of exercise, that's also a problem! Would be nice if I didn't have to sit 8 hours for my job, just so I can get home using my car for an hour and a half that I sit in, and then relax at home... By sitting.

Modern life really makes this whole 'not sitting too much' hard.
Looks like another sad thing that happened, that will result in people demanding infringing upon other's freedom and enjoyment. I think GameRager nailed it with multiple posts in this topic, but that's just me.
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rjbuffchix: Looks like another sad thing that happened, that will result in people demanding infringing upon other's freedom and enjoyment. I think GameRager nailed it with multiple posts in this topic, but that's just me.
Do you want some low ratings(by trolls), cuz agreeing with me is how one gets them some low ratings. o.0

Jokes aside, it is sad to see this kid's death being used to push a "games bad" narrative & yet another parent that did next to nothing to prevent their child from suffering/dying then crying after the fact/blaming something else besides them.
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rjbuffchix: Looks like another sad thing that happened, that will result in people demanding infringing upon other's freedom and enjoyment. I think GameRager nailed it with multiple posts in this topic, but that's just me.
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GameRager: Do you want some low ratings(by trolls), cuz agreeing with me is how one gets them some low ratings. o.0

Jokes aside, it is sad to see this kid's death being used to push a "games bad" narrative & yet another parent that did next to nothing to prevent their child from suffering/dying then crying after the fact/blaming something else besides them.
Oh I don't pay mind to the rating system. My "no BS" style earns a decent share of downvotes here and there anyway. I hear you. People work through grief in various ways. However, I don't think it is appropriate for them to negatively affect others, and couch it in grief (knowingly or not). I would say the best approach is to let people grieve, and also let other people be as they are. I also have never thought it fair to "use someone as a means to an end," if that makes sense.
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rjbuffchix: Oh I don't pay mind to the rating system. My "no BS" style earns a decent share of downvotes here and there anyway. I hear you. People work through grief in various ways. However, I don't think it is appropriate for them to negatively affect others, and couch it in grief (knowingly or not). I would say the best approach is to let people grieve, and also let other people be as they are. I also have never thought it fair to "use someone as a means to an end," if that makes sense.
+1 to all of this...well said.

(As for low ratings....sometimes I am tempted to troll them back but that is what they want & would get me in trouble[which they also likely want] so I try not to do such)
Post edited November 07, 2019 by GameRager
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clarry: I don't understand. Is he saying that computer gives you stroke? That would be news.

What if I change hobbies.. say I start jogging. And then I get stroke. Should the mourning father now tell people not to jog?
There's a particular condition that is caused by sitting for excessively long periods of time, and little or no excercise.

Addiction is the problem, here, and gaming *can* be addictive.