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Posted July 02, 2020
From the creators of HBO's Westworld no less.

https://www.escapistmagazine.com/v2/fallout-tv-series-creators-of-westworld-coming-to-amazon/

And here I thought Vault Boy being in Smash was the strangest thing to happen to Fallout.
Post edited July 02, 2020 by Elmofongo
Posted July 02, 2020
It will probably be similar to the whimsical bethesda shit that has nowhere near the atmosphere or dark/hopeless feeling as the rest of the franchise minus tactics,76 and brotherhood obviously. Not to mention i'm getting tired of videogames to movie adoptations so will not watch ofc.
Post edited July 02, 2020 by ChrisGamer300
Posted July 02, 2020
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Elmofongo: From the creators of HBO's Westworld no less.
Well, there goes any hope for it.
Posted July 03, 2020
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Elmofongo: From the creators of HBO's Westworld no less.
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Breja: Well, there goes any hope for it.
I don't know... Westworld the tv show, I liked it, but I felt like they stretched it out. Doesn't Fallout have a lot more lore to keep it interesting?
It's not that a movie can't be the basis for a long running TV show - look at Stargate for example; but they need to add a lot more to keep it going.
Post edited July 03, 2020 by teceem
Posted July 03, 2020
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Breja: Well, there goes any hope for it.
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teceem: I don't know... Westworld the tv show, I liked it, but I felt like they stretched it out. Doesn't Fallout have a lot more lore to keep it interesting?
It's not that a movie can't be the basis for a long running TV show - look at Stargate for example; but they need to add a lot more to keep it going.
First season of Westworld was good. Series two however just lost the plot everywhere. I have the third recorded, but not watched it yet, and probably won’t.

Amazon drm telly again, so I likely wouldn’t get to see this anyways, but I can’t see it being good in any way.
Posted July 03, 2020
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Breja: Well, there goes any hope for it.
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teceem: I don't know... Westworld the tv show, I liked it, but I felt like they stretched it out.
I didn't make it past the pilot. Bored me near to tears. But to be fair a lot of today's super popular tv shows do that. Too long episodes, padding everywhere, and a lot of it doesn't even feel like proper "episodes", but a really, really long movie randomly cut up int more or less hour long chunks.
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teceem: Doesn't Fallout have a lot more lore to keep it interesting?
Plenty, but "lore" is not story. Lore is fun to discover as you explore the world, but it is not the same as plot, and in tv or movie form it would turn into just terrible exposition dumps. Plus, a lot of fun of Fallout is that while there is a lot of lore, there's even more holes in it. The past is forever now a jigsaw puzzle with most pieces missing and the box burnt to ash.

I honestly don't know how to make a good movie or show out of Fallout, it's such a peculiar setting. I'm not saying it can't be done, but I don't see it. It's simultanously very harsh, and depressing, and yet full of humor and sometimes quite upbeat. It's very pulp-y, a mish-mash of various popcultural apocalyptic visions. It has no over-arcing story. It has no real protagnist. It's a great game, but also "just" a game - a setting for the player to do things in.
Posted July 03, 2020
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Breja: Plenty, but "lore" is not story. Lore is fun to discover as you explore the world, but it is not the same as plot, and in tv or movie form it would turn into just terrible exposition dumps. Plus, a lot of fun of Fallout is that while there is a lot of lore, there's even more holes in it. The past is forever now a jigsaw puzzle with most pieces missing and the box burnt to ash.
I mentioned Stargate (SG1) as an example. They added a lot of lore, and created new plots from that. Can you imagine creating multiple seasons/plots based on the lore present in Stargate: The Movie? :-D
Even only the first Fallout game has a lot more inspiration to begin with...
Post edited July 03, 2020 by teceem
Posted July 03, 2020
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Breja: But to be fair a lot of today's super popular tv shows do that. Too long episodes, padding everywhere, and a lot of it doesn't even feel like proper "episodes", but a really, really long movie randomly cut up int more or less hour long chunks.
This is a very annoying trend with nowadays' TV shows. Most "premium" shows, and not only those, have seasons that are actually 10-hour long movies. Serialized storytelling can be good, but it's being abused to the point you can't tell one episode from another (there are cases of shows that aired, in different countries, the same content distributed in a different number of episodes with different length, because apparently who cares about coherent narrative structure).

I also agree several shows have too long episodes filled with, well, filler, just because they can. If you can tell me your story in 45 minutes there's no need to drag until the 1 hour mark.

That being said, and despite being guilty of some of the above, I did enjoy Westworld season 1 (possibly because I love the robots topic). There is some apparent filler that pays off in the end. Season 2 was meh, dragging a two-hour story into a whole season.
Posted July 03, 2020
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Can't wait for the episode where the character spends 20 mins picking between perception and science
Posted July 03, 2020
They can take my character as lead role. I leveled up to max.
Posted July 03, 2020
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ConsulCaesar: I also agree several shows have too long episodes filled with, well, filler, just because they can. If you can tell me your story in 45 minutes there's no need to drag until the 1 hour mark.
It really is sadhow the art of being economic with storytelling has seemingly all but died in tv shows (though movies too are often way longer then they need to be today). You look at something like X-Files, and it's amazing in comparison how they could tell a great, compelling story in 45 minutes, usually in a new setting and establishing new characters every week. Rather then a be a harmful limitation, it forced them to use smart, visual storytelling and cut out all the padding and keep a good, tense pace. Hell, I'm watching an old british tv show Arthur and the Britons from the 70s, and they managed to tell good stories and devolop characters in episodes less than 25 minutes long!
Posted July 03, 2020
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Breja: But to be fair a lot of today's super popular tv shows do that. Too long episodes, padding everywhere, and a lot of it doesn't even feel like proper "episodes", but a really, really long movie randomly cut up int more or less hour long chunks.
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ConsulCaesar: This is a very annoying trend with nowadays' TV shows. Most "premium" shows, and not only those, have seasons that are actually 10-hour long movies. Serialized storytelling can be good, but it's being abused to the point you can't tell one episode from another (there are cases of shows that aired, in different countries, the same content distributed in a different number of episodes with different length, because apparently who cares about coherent narrative structure).

I also agree several shows have too long episodes filled with, well, filler, just because they can. If you can tell me your story in 45 minutes there's no need to drag until the 1 hour mark.

That being said, and despite being guilty of some of the above, I did enjoy Westworld season 1 (possibly because I love the robots topic). There is some apparent filler that pays off in the end. Season 2 was meh, dragging a two-hour story into a whole season.
On the other hand we had shows that were killed too soon while it was at its peak such as what you based your Avatar picture on.
Posted July 03, 2020
I'm not excited. Rumor is, specifically, the people behind HBO's crappy Watchmen show. Hard pass.
Posted July 03, 2020
From Westworld creators? I couldn't tell if I didn't like the writing or setting, but either that show didn't grab me at all.

If nothing else, I'd be curious to see how their artists' version of the vaults, and whether or not they decide to stick with the ridiculous social experiment angle. That seemed a bit over the top at the time, even for a game. Perhaps that has been addressed in the lore since, or if not change it so that only 10% of the vaults were used to those crazy ends.

Regardless, I wouldn't at all mind for a proper retrofuturism series, dystopian or not.
Posted July 03, 2020
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Elmofongo: On the other hand we had shows that were killed too soon while it was at its peak such as what you based your Avatar picture on.
It was too great, too big and above all too expensive for its own good, missing just for a few years the golden age of TV where HBO wouldn't even have dreamed of cancelling it.
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