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phaolo: ^ BANNED from all online games
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timppu: Quite often I get (temporarily) banned from Team Fortress 2 via user-voting.

Quite often the reason seems to be that some feel I make the game "unfun" apparently by playing too good, like finding a good place for a sentry that enemy can't even exit their own base, and rest of my team has that much less to kill.

Then especially in the Hightower map, some emo shits keep complaining if one tries to push the cart and capture, ie. win the game for the team. As if that is something you are not supposed to do in Hightower, even though the map is exactly about that (a payload race map, both teams trying to push their cart to the goal and prevent the enemy from doing that).

Apparently those whiners have a different idea of fun to me. To them that map is apparently just some stupid team deathmatch game where you run around like a headless chicken shooting at everything that moves, or stay in your base trying to get easy sniper kills to opponents here and there.

If I wanted to play deathmatch, I would play deathmatch maps, not a Team Fortress CTF or payload race map. Those whiners always seem to have all kinds of other silly and totally made-up rules, like one is not supposed to play an engineer either in Hightower or any king-of-the-hill map (or any map for that matter), also playing a pyro is a definite no-no, and last but not least... the damn complaints about "spawn camping", which means that the enemy team is so overrunning your weak team that they stay at your own base killing you as soon as you try to exit your ammo room (where you respawn after dying).

Usually these dickhead "spawncamper!"-whiners seem to be asshats that play only some specific weak class, like a spy, sniper or scout, and then can't get over it if they can't get past several enemy heavy weapons guys, soldiers and pyros. Gee, I wonder why? Maybe you should like change your class to something more suitable for that particular situation?

Like if I see some enemies trying to spawncamp, I change to either a pyro or soldier and just kill them away. When I shoot a few Scorch Shots at a group of soldiers, demomen and hwguys, quite soon they run away with the tail between their legs, burning in flames. ("Scorch Shot" has the nice feature that if you shoot it at a group of enemies, usually many of them burst into flames; very powerful especially against slow heavy weapons guys and such, and even nearby medics healing them.)

Or if the enemy has lots of scouts and pyros running around amok, I switch to a engineer. There, try to run past my level 3 sentry!

Or, if the enemy has lots of engineers camping outside our base, a group of soldiers can easily take care of them, possibly with a help of one spy.

There is always a counter to any threat, but some people are just too lazy or "royal" to change from their silly spy, sniper or scout class, and just WHINE WHINE WHINE like some entitled emo kids.
I quit online gaming nearly 20 years ago due to this exact same mentality. There were people who would capture the opposing teams flag then go to some remote hidden corner of the map and just sit there. So long as one flag was missing no team could score and the session turned into an endless deathmatch. People got mad at me for hunting down and killing these flag holders. I was also told that circle strafing was cheating. I tried switching from online FPS to online RTS but ran into the same kind of whining, apparently things like sending out one or two worker units to act as scouts at the very beginning of the game, rushing a second base on the map or ignoring defensive positions by simply running past them to attack the main base and supply line are all considered "cheating".
It looks like a power grab based on a problem they helped create. A handful of these companies are far from innocent themselves.

Blizzard whose main game was based on addictive gambling psychology and fraud.

Twitch with their selective rules and camwhores.

The Xbox which flooded gaming with frat boys and 12 year old kids that scream F*g and N*gg*r all day while convincing them that spending money on xbox live just so they could use your machine to play peer to peer was a good idea.
We envision a world where games are free of harassment, discrimination, and abuse, and where players can express themselves through play.
Wasn't overwatch banning players who didn't play the way Blizzard wanted?
"Look! We do good! (And we can deduct it from taxes...)"
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paladin181: What if expressing myself through play is bullying others who aren't as good as I am by kill stealing and camping them? If that's who I am, is my time and enjoyment less valuable than theirs?
Yes, of course.
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paladin181: What if expressing myself through play is bullying others who aren't as good as I am by kill stealing and camping them? If that's who I am, is my time and enjoyment less valuable than theirs?
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Spectre: Wasn't overwatch banning players who didn't play the way Blizzard wanted?
Yeah, exactly. Obviously, this "Alliance" would expect players only express themselves in a way that is approved by Alliance. That was the point of the image I added. Because nobody expects a Spanish Inquisition.
Hm.

So the solution to a toxic fanbase is not to say, "You guys, quit being jerks & just have some fun" or even VOIP bans, but to form a Council of Vagueness.

Really, I think they could just try and educate the player base a little and that would go a long way. That, or strictly enforcing COPPA.
Post edited March 29, 2018 by Darvond
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Darvond: Really, I think they could just try and educate the player base a little and that would go a long way. That, or strictly enforcing COPPA.
They're not all little kids. And some little kids are fine online. One of our Photoshop experts came to our forums when he was 11ish. He thought it "was fun"

You can't educate the player base. Some of them think it;s their god given right (And yes I;ve been told that) to say or do whatever they want to online.

Much like the guy here at the library right now over at the next table who refuses to mute their laptop even though there's a big ass sign on the doors saying to do it.
Honestly, this ain't shit. It won't be shit and people are still gonna be people. This is just window dressing for the social media dramatics club, so they can point at it later as an example of community outreach. I highly doubt whether any of those companies even take this seriously, much like the peoples' behaviours they're claiming to attempt to change.

In an ideal world, none of us would have ten year olds telling us what they're gonna do or have done to our mothers/sisters/girlfriends/wives/significant others/life partners/etc, but even banning isn't gonna stop people from being toxic little shits.

It is what it is. Find your own community and play with those people, which is what I do in multiplayer heavy games.
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timppu: phuck
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phaolo: ^ BANNED from all online games
*insert christian minecraft server meme here*
Post edited March 29, 2018 by LiquidOxygen80