Posted October 14, 2022
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fronzelneekburm
I'm back!
Registered: Apr 2012
From China, People's Republic of
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dtgreene
vaccines work she/her
Registered: Jan 2010
From United States
Posted October 14, 2022
Wizardry 8 spoiler:
Wizardry 8 has one quest, which is mandatory if you're going through blind, in which you have to consort with a demon to complete it. It also doesn't help that you have to have a male character consort with the female demon, unless you have no male characters in your party (in which case the game will let you choose a female character to consort with her).
Wizardry 8 also happens to have an item called the "Pickled Trynnie". (The Trynnies are a friendly sentient race that you encounter. At least this particular item is found in an area inhabited by the hostile Rapax.)
Wizardry 8 has one quest, which is mandatory if you're going through blind, in which you have to consort with a demon to complete it. It also doesn't help that you have to have a male character consort with the female demon, unless you have no male characters in your party (in which case the game will let you choose a female character to consort with her).
Wizardry 8 also happens to have an item called the "Pickled Trynnie". (The Trynnies are a friendly sentient race that you encounter. At least this particular item is found in an area inhabited by the hostile Rapax.)
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csanjuro
I miss you Lulu
Registered: Nov 2010
From Chile
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dnovraD
2023-08-14: Remember the Spaces!
Registered: Jul 2012
From United States
Posted October 15, 2022
Oh, the ancestor of Nier: Automata.
Surprised how things sometimes emerge from this. Like how Dark Souls can trace back directly to a janky action RPG called King's Field.
Speaking of your explanation: Hideo Kojima has ideas about women. This dates as far back as his first games with a major narrative, such as Snatcher, Policenauts, and Metal Gear: Solid Snake.
Be it the ability to outright harass them or having them be the product of a tragic injury that'd make Nu Lara Croft blush, or both, Kojima is a horny bastard with odd ideas towards the opposite sex. Breathing though her skin because parasites, not just because you're unrepentant horndog on main.
Surprised how things sometimes emerge from this. Like how Dark Souls can trace back directly to a janky action RPG called King's Field.
Speaking of your explanation: Hideo Kojima has ideas about women. This dates as far back as his first games with a major narrative, such as Snatcher, Policenauts, and Metal Gear: Solid Snake.
Be it the ability to outright harass them or having them be the product of a tragic injury that'd make Nu Lara Croft blush, or both, Kojima is a horny bastard with odd ideas towards the opposite sex. Breathing though her skin because parasites, not just because you're unrepentant horndog on main.
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Dischord
Musing Aurelius
Registered: Dec 2010
From United States
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dnovraD
2023-08-14: Remember the Spaces!
Registered: Jul 2012
From United States
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LootHunter
Political non-Euclidean
Registered: Dec 2013
From Russian Federation
Posted October 15, 2022
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Post edited October 15, 2022 by LootHunter
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dtgreene
vaccines work she/her
Registered: Jan 2010
From United States
Posted October 18, 2022
Might and Magic 2:
* While some of the hirelings have good names, the name Big Bootay just feels a bit too juvenile.
* Some enemies have gendered physical immunity. Some enemies are immune to physical attacks from male characters, while others are immune to physical attacks from female characters. (The default party, being male dominated (especially if you don't count the sorcerer who is going to be casting spells), does poorly here, and the fact that the hirelings are male
dominated as well doesn't help, either.)
* While some of the hirelings have good names, the name Big Bootay just feels a bit too juvenile.
* Some enemies have gendered physical immunity. Some enemies are immune to physical attacks from male characters, while others are immune to physical attacks from female characters. (The default party, being male dominated (especially if you don't count the sorcerer who is going to be casting spells), does poorly here, and the fact that the hirelings are male
dominated as well doesn't help, either.)
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Dischord
Musing Aurelius
Registered: Dec 2010
From United States
Posted October 25, 2022
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LootHunter
Political non-Euclidean
Registered: Dec 2013
From Russian Federation
Posted October 25, 2022
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Even Cosmo (saw linked video?) is some sort of menacing security service figure. And, as I've said, he is one of the few examples that can be considered positive. And considering, how things are going IRL, I don't expect depictions of Russians to improve anytime soon.
So, when people complain "we are only represented in the media as a stereotype" or "our identity group depiction in US fiction is negative", I always roll my eyes. My people have been depicted as antagonists all my life (especially in games), and I've learned to live with it. So all those "fighters for the human rights of characters in video games" should stop whining.
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dtgreene
vaccines work she/her
Registered: Jan 2010
From United States
Posted October 26, 2022
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Even Cosmo (saw linked video?) is some sort of menacing security service figure. And, as I've said, he is one of the few examples that can be considered positive. And considering, how things are going IRL, I don't expect depictions of Russians to improve anytime soon.
So, when people complain "we are only represented in the media as a stereotype" or "our identity group depiction in US fiction is negative", I always roll my eyes. My people have been depicted as antagonists all my life (especially in games), and I've learned to live with it. So all those "fighters for the human rights of characters in video games" should stop whining.
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mqstout
Pittsburgh cis-gay-male
Registered: Jun 2010
From United States
Posted October 26, 2022
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But then that stopped as sadly the situation became regressive again.
It is, sadly, an unfortunate trope/theme that repeats in too many games. They take the lazy path of the culturally pre-built villain instead of coming up with one. Though I can't deny that the NIS era - the dissolution of USSR and "what happens now?" - did make for some good storytelling. (Lord of War [movie] and the Leggy Starlitz short stories definitely being at the top of the list.)
Post edited October 26, 2022 by mqstout