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HereForTheBeer: Inscribed on a plaque added to a gracious gift from Europe:

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
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HereForTheBeer: I'll take that over your White Pride culture any day of the year.
And I am sure those rapists, sexual assailants, and terrorists from the Middle East and the drug cartel enforcers from Mexico are quite "tired and poor." I am sure you and the various retail corporate executives love using that empty rhetoric. I would bet you just want some wetback to cut your grass for next to no pay.

I will take White Pride especially European-American pride over your empty rhetoric any day. I would even have you dropped off to the Islamic State to get featured in a shock video.
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Dalthnock: <snip>
What I don't get is why it has to be White Pride. Sure, all the rest can do their thing. They aren't correct in doing so, either. I do my best not to buy into any of that XYZ Pride crap. Does the European Culture (read: white) pride stuff include, say, southern Spain and Portugal, which surely have a traceable amount of non-white blood mixed into their native populations? I mean, darker skin tone, definitely missing that blonde Nordic hair, proximity to northern Africa across the Strait, etc...

I guess I find all of it rather silly. So someone can trace back through 30 generations of pure whiteness. So what? Sure, we can appreciate the works of the people who lived in those areas in the past, but what does white have to do with it? Could some of those works of art not have been created simply because a non-white might have been involved? How would that explain the old architectural beauty in Jordan, what's left of Syria, and other areas of the non-white world?

Believe me, I'm also irritated about being lumped-in for blame simply because my skin is a certain hue / tone. Perpetuating it across the board isn't the solution, and that includes "Pride" activities beyond racial matters.

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HereForTheBeer: Inscribed on a plaque added to a gracious gift from Europe:

I'll take that over your White Pride culture any day of the year.
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infinite9: And I am sure those rapists, sexual assailants, and terrorists from the Middle East and the drug cartel enforcers from Mexico are quite "tired and poor." I am sure you and the various retail corporate executives love using that empty rhetoric. I would bet you just want some wetback to cut your grass for next to no pay.
Hahaha - if only you knew... but geez, that's funny. I'm kinda rolling in laughter over here.

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infinite9: I would even have you dropped off to the Islamic State to get featured in a shock video.
I repeatedly get a chuckle out of the "I would have you" instead of "I am going to." This shows up quite often in your posts: someone else should do the dirty work that you feel needs to be done.
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tinyE: Sorry to butt in here, but how can you be proud of something you had nothing to do with? :P
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DaCostaBR: I know you feel compelled to post in every single topic in this forum tinyE, but have you ever considered the old adage of "don't feed the troll"? Since what Dalthnock posts most of the time is at best a trolling attempt, and at worst a rejected post from an ultra-right wing forum.

Hey everyone!

Let me propose something to you. How about we just ignore this? I know it's difficult. I had the urge to jump into the fray myself and start arguing, but it's just not worth it, and deep down we all know it.

If, on the other hand, we go somewhere else on this gaming forum and talk about games instead of politics, we won't have to see yet another political thread devolve into insults within two pages, and continue as such for another ten.

It's not like we have nothing to talk about. It's E3! There's plenty of cringeworthy moments to discuss. In fact, I think I'll go to another thread right now, and tell someone that the game they're really excited for is actually shit. It'll be fun! At least more fun than this.
This. So very, very much this.
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Dalthnock: *snip*
Maybe you should break your habit to make claims about people on the internet you doesn't know. As I learned through own painful experience, it just makes one look plain stupid...

And this mentality of "if one is not for me he is against me" is shared by SJWs and people like you. That might be one of the reasons why I can't stand both groups.
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HereForTheBeer: <snip>
Nothing. It has nothing to do with all you just said. I didn't compare whites to other races, neither did the video.

You people are so incredibly conditioned, you can't even think for yourselves.

You see buildings, you think of slaves.

I wasn't trying to put down any other race, YOU all did it yourselves, because apparently, it has to be either or, it can't be that you can celebrate one culture, or a set of cultures without mentioning others & bringing slavery into the issue.

Do you realise how ridiculous you sound? I'm not attacking you, I'm just asking you to step back a little & look at all your reasoning & your jumps in logic that were so easy for you because it's been beaten into you until it became automatic.

You see me post a video celebrating white culture where no other race is mentioned, there's no narrative & you ALL assume that this is putting down other races. Pathetic. Ridiculous. The fact that there's cultures that are mainly white does not automatically make other cultures worse unless YOU think that BY YOURSELF, immediately. And that is YOUR problem, not mine.

You can lick the boots of those that kick you all the time, if you want. I'm fed up with this bullshit.

I'm white, I like white culture, I'm not ashamed of who I am & this has nothing to do with other cultures or races. Deal with it.
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viperfdl: Maybe you should break your habit to make claims about people on the internet you doesn't know. As I learned through own painful experience, it just makes one look plain stupid...
What, like you did?

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viperfdl: And this mentality of "if one is not for me he is against me" is shared by SJWs and people like you. That might be one of the reasons why I can't stand both groups.
Again, like you did? You see White & Pride in the same sentence & you instantly shit yourself.

Why do I have to explain that I can like one thing without hating another? What the fuck is so bad about the word white that triggers so many of you?

Watch the video & tell me what's wrong with that kind of pride. Tell me where's the racism that you're all seeing in the video.

You're damaged, like so many others & that's YOUR problem.

I will not cower in fear just because I'm white. Simply put, if you hate something as inoffensive as that just because it has white people in it, guess what that makes you, champ? A goddamned racist.
Post edited June 15, 2016 by Dalthnock
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Dalthnock: You see me post a video celebrating white culture where no other race is mentioned, there's no narrative
RIght now I'm really wondering if you're an idiot or a liar.There is a whole fucking essey in the description that includes such gems as "Healthy nationalism" and "The Left, mainly orchestrated by Zionist interests".

You are nothing but a lying little troll, and it's people like you who make any serious debate on important issues impossible by polluting it such distastful bullshit, mixing fact and with nationalist propaganda. And on forums like this, that are not supposed to be a soap box for your political crap, you're just a pest.
Post edited June 15, 2016 by Breja
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Breja: RIght now I'm really wondering if you're an idiot or a liar.There is a whole fucking essey in the description that includes such gems as "Healthy nationalism" and "The Left, mainly orchestrated by Zionist interests".
Fuck the description. If I was interested in that, I would've pasted it in the thread. I linked the video, that's all.

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH BEING WHITE?
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Dalthnock: Fuck the description. If I was interested in that, I would've pasted it in the thread. I linked the video, that's all.
No. You don't get to weasel your way out like that. You linked the fucking page, you linked the whole fucking thing, you don't get to shrug and say "no no, ignore the part that makes me a lying little shit". How about putting some of that pride of yours to work, some of that great white dignity, and owning up to what you actually linked? You're a spineless little slug, and I assure- you have nothing to be proud of, white, green or polka dot.
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Dalthnock: Not White Pride culture, dammit. I just refuse to be put down or ashamed just because I'm white. Other cultures can celebrate themselves. Why can't Europeans? SINCE WHEN IS IT A SIN TO BE A WHITE EUROPEAN?
Here's why you can't be proud: because being white isn't an achievement. Nor is being black, Arab or East Asian.

Being European isn't an achievement. Nor is being American, African, Japanese, Russian or Australian.

Being Christian or Atheist isn't an achievement. Nor is being Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist or Hindu.

Being heterosexual isn't an achievement. Nor is being gay, bisexual or transgender.

Sure, you can look up to European achievers in music, art, political progress, human rights and sports as a role model and strive to live up to those role models. That's true patriotism. You can even contribute something to Europe and be proud of what you've achieved. That's patriotism.

But you don't get brownie points just for being white or European. You aren't superior just for being white or European. In fact, judging by your insistence on claiming this pride, I'm going to guess that you've done precisely fuck all to warrant that pride. That's not patriotism. That's nationalism. You are freeloading off the achievements of greater people than yourself. And it makes you a fucking disgrace to Europe.
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Dalthnock: Not White Pride culture, dammit. I just refuse to be put down or ashamed just because I'm white. Other cultures can celebrate themselves. Why can't Europeans? SINCE WHEN IS IT A SIN TO BE A WHITE EUROPEAN?
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jamyskis: Here's why you can't be proud: because being white isn't an achievement. Nor is being black, Arab or East Asian.

Being European isn't an achievement. Nor is being American, African, Japanese, Russian or Australian.

Being Christian or Atheist isn't an achievement. Nor is being Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist or Hindu.

Being heterosexual isn't an achievement. Nor is being gay, bisexual or transgender.

Sure, you can look up to European achievers in music, art, political progress, human rights and sports as a role model and strive to live up to those role models. That's true patriotism. You can even contribute something to Europe and be proud of what you've achieved. That's patriotism.

But you don't get brownie points just for being white or European. You aren't superior just for being white or European. In fact, judging by your insistence on claiming this pride, I'm going to guess that you've done precisely fuck all to warrant that pride. That's not patriotism. That's nationalism. And it makes you a fucking disgrace to Europe.
MY MAN!
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Breja: No. You don't get to weasel your way out like that. You linked the fucking page, you linked the whole fucking thing, you don't get to shrug and say "no no, ignore the part that makes me a lying little shit". How about putting some of that pride of your to work, some of that great white dignity, and owning up to what you actually linked? You're spineless little slug, and I assure- you have nothing to be proud of, white, green or polka dot.
Can you embed the video? I can't. I never read descriptions.

So come right out & tell me that you have a problem with me because I'm white & I'm not ashamed. Go on, say it.

Weasel? Spineless? You're the one trying to contort a whole twisted fucked up narrative because I DARED say that I like being white. What a crime! I should be shot, or worse! A WHITE! HOW HORRIBLE!
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jamyskis: Sure, you can look up to European achievers in music, art, political progress, human rights and sports as a role model and strive to live up to those role models. That's true patriotism. You can even contribute something to Europe and be proud of what you've achieved. That's patriotism.
That's what I meant. If you'll notice, I corrected "pride" with "love" in my second post, long before all this bullshit started. What, you never typed a sub-optimal word? It wasn't even wrong in the sentence, it just wasn't the best. TinyE pointed it out, I corrected it.

So what? Why am I being crucified over this?

Tell me this is a lie: if the word white had been replaced with something else, you'd all be applauding. Please, tell me it's a lie.
Post edited June 15, 2016 by Dalthnock
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viperfdl: Maybe you should break your habit to make claims about people on the internet you doesn't know. As I learned through own painful experience, it just makes one look plain stupid...
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Dalthnock: What, like you did?
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viperfdl: And this mentality of "if one is not for me he is against me" is shared by SJWs and people like you. That might be one of the reasons why I can't stand both groups.
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Dalthnock: Again, like you did? You see White & Pride in the same sentence & you instantly shit yourself.

Why do I have to explain that I can like one thing without hating another? What the fuck is so bad about the word white that triggers so many of you?

Watch the video & tell me what's wrong with that kind of pride. Tell me where's the racism that you're all seeing in the video.

You're damaged, like so many others & that's YOUR problem.

I will not cower in fear just because I'm white. Simply put, if you hate something as inoffensive as that just because it has white people in it, guess what that makes you, champ? A goddamned racist.
Ok, you win. Although... Do look European southerners like Spaniard, Greeks, Portuguese really white? For me they look more like light brown...
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Dalthnock: Can you embed the video? I can't. I never read descriptions.
Well then maybe you fucking should. Maybe knowing what's in it now you should edit the OP, apologise for linking the shit and ask for the thread to be closed, instead of trygin to weasel your way out. But that would take some spine. Actually owning up to your mistake, admiting you don't agree with stuff like that.


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Dalthnock: So come right out & tell me that you have a problem with me because I'm white & I'm not ashamed. Go on, say it.
Stop kicking the strawman. It's all you've been doing. I think it's dead already. It's always been dead. Congratulations on having conquered it.
Post edited June 15, 2016 by Breja
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jamyskis: judging by your insistence on claiming this pride
My "insistence" came about after being attacked just for posting something about white cultures.

What, was I supposed to curl up & cave under the pressure?

Fuck. You.

You punch, I strike back. If that offends you, then don't strike first.
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viperfdl: Ok, you win. Although... Do look European southerners like Spaniard, Greeks, Portuguese really white? For me they look more like light brown...
And again, what the fuck is wrong with that? Do you find that colour better, or worse? Well, I don't care. Colours don't offend me. And what does it have to do with the video?
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Breja: Well then maybe you ficking should. Maybe knowing what's in it now you should edit the OP, apologise for linking the shit and ask for the thread to be closed, instead of trygin to weasel your way out.
Apologise? You come over kicking & screaming - I bet you wouldn't talk to anyone in real life like you did on the post before this one - and I'm supposed to apologise? For what, being white?

No. I won't apologise, especially to one as obviously hysteric & completely altered as you are.

I can see this really triggers you, you really hate white people. Well, I guess YOU have a problem. Deal with it.

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Breja: Stop kicking the strawman. It's all you've been doing. I think it's dead already. I think it's always been dead. Congratulations on having conquered it.
I do believe you were the one building the strawman. Again, if I could've embedded the video, that's what I would've done.

If the description pissed you off, go write an angry letter to the channel owner.

I go to YouTube to watch videos, not to read.
Post edited June 15, 2016 by Dalthnock
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viperfdl: Ok, you win. Although... Do look European southerners like Spaniard, Greeks, Portuguese really white? For me they look more like light brown...
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Dalthnock: And again, what the fuck is wrong with that?
Well, your profile says that you come from Portugal and if you're a Portuguese yourself than you can't be white. At least if you haven't bleached out while sitting all day at home. So why are you saying that you are white and are proud of it? You have no right to do that!