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muttly13: Is there anything they dont investigate? I cannot fathom a more bureaucratic organization.
They're probably going to investigate you after that comment.
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Kleetus: They're probably going to investigate you after that comment.
False. European Commission don't have any jurisdiction on usa citizens, unless it is a tax evading corp, like Novartis (recent scandals)...
Post edited February 03, 2017 by KiNgBrAdLeY7
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Shadowstalker16: Good news for me as well. They implemented the refund policy worldwide, even though it was induced by European laws, so the same may happen this time.
Yeah, that's pretty cool. Similar to what happened with the European RoHS laws too. Even though they are European laws, virtually all electronic products sold in North America now claim to be RoHS compliant as well and are often even advertised as such. I always thought that was pretty cool that another continent's laws have had a positive effect globally via osmosis like that. :)
Won't be any change for me there sadly. At best this will remove the few places where the price is lower than the rest of the EU and force them to pay just as much as we do.

This probably wouldn't be an issue at all if retail weren't still a thing. Then they could do the same as GOG and lock your price to where you live and force all gifts to be the standard high price.
Of the various apsects of Steam that are anti-competitive this is fairly minor. Introducing digital ownership rights or forcing publishers to offer alternatives to Steam would far better address VALVe's monopoly power (IB4 a company can have monopoly power with >25% of the market)
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mechmouse: [...]
forcing publishers to offer alternatives to Steam
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How realistically would you enforce this? Does it apply to all developers (Indie and AAA)? Will there be a limit to how few alternatives they must provide? Will you enforce that the other providers have the same framework as Steam (i.e. various aspects of steamworks), or will the publishers be compensated for additional work needed for porting the games? What kind of punishment would there be for publishers who do not agree? and many other questions....
Post edited February 03, 2017 by amok
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Siegor: Let's hope instead it means they get rid of those silly swastika laws so german gamers have access to the same uncensored games as the rest of us.
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timppu: Why would Germans do that (considering they don't seem to try to change them already now)?
Because EU can force them and threaten with ridiculous high fine, if they don't follow EU laws. It happened more than once in the past.
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timppu: Why would Germans do that (considering they don't seem to try to change them already now)?
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PaterAlf: Because EU can force them and threaten with ridiculous high fine, if they don't follow EU laws. It happened more than once in the past.
EU likes to threaten people. That kind of shite is why we voted to leave.
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PaterAlf: Because EU can force them and threaten with ridiculous high fine, if they don't follow EU laws. It happened more than once in the past.
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darthspudius: EU likes to threaten people. That kind of shite is why we voted to leave.
Don't remember seeing that argument. Jobs, migration, paying more than we get back...
https://techraptor.net/content/european-commission-investigation-valve-geoblocking
They're investigating Valve and five other games publishers, with focus being on their agreements on the practice of region blocking. The commission seems to be investigating whether people are being denied offers because of their location / country. Fingers crossed this benefits the country-locked games in Europe and maybe finally makes Fallout 3 and NV available in India, if Valve decides to apply the order they receive internationally.
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darthspudius: EU likes to threaten people. That kind of shite is why we voted to leave.
As well as extort and embezzle. They DEMAND from completely broke countries, to cater to illegal-immigrant scum and if they refuse, they keep pressing for other "contributions" towards the "european ideals" (money from ridiculously high fines to central bank). Here in our place, unemployment is 60%, university students whore themselves out to pay bills and our ministers, starting next month, are going to pay monthly 400 euros apiece, per scumfugee head. Locals die from lack of money to buy heat for the winter (already 20 people perished, some from self-made heat stoves too), while UN and their comic cartoon ambassadors and the drunkards in Brussels, yell about what inhumane conditions immigrants are into. In European Union (not Europe itself), locals is the minority, plus the ENEMY! Locals are only for being overtaxed to death and self-willingly becoming fodder for all sort of cannibals and their twisted customs!
Post edited February 04, 2017 by KiNgBrAdLeY7
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timppu: Why would Germans do that (considering they don't seem to try to change them already now)?
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PaterAlf: Because EU can force them and threaten with ridiculous high fine, if they don't follow EU laws. It happened more than once in the past.
Germany? Never. Bigger countries like Germany and France are always given an exemption from any regulations while with smaller and less important EU countries like Finland, the threats and fines come very fast for not following the budget rules etc.
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timppu: Germany? Never. Bigger countries like Germany and France are always given an exemption from any regulations while with smaller and less important EU countries like Finland, the threats and fines come very fast for not following the budget rules etc.
Yes, it happens all the time. For example because of too much fine dust in the air in big ciites or right at the moment the EU takes Germany to court for too much nitrate in the groundwater. Could give you a lot of other examples.
Post edited February 04, 2017 by PaterAlf
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Shadowstalker16: https://techraptor.net/content/european-commission-investigation-valve-geoblocking
They're investigating Valve and five other games publishers, with focus being on their agreements on the practice of region blocking. The commission seems to be investigating whether people are being denied offers because of their location / country. Fingers crossed this benefits the country-locked games in Europe and maybe finally makes Fallout 3 and NV available in India, if Valve decides to apply the order they receive internationally.
I didn't know those games were unavailable in India. Did they at least give you a reason?
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Shadowstalker16: https://techraptor.net/content/european-commission-investigation-valve-geoblocking
They're investigating Valve and five other games publishers, with focus being on their agreements on the practice of region blocking. The commission seems to be investigating whether people are being denied offers because of their location / country. Fingers crossed this benefits the country-locked games in Europe and maybe finally makes Fallout 3 and NV available in India, if Valve decides to apply the order they receive internationally.
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Siegor: I didn't know those games were unavailable in India. Did they at least give you a reason?
No official ban but the publisher held off on their own accord. I think the reason cited was that its because some bovine looking enemies in the game were called ''Brahmins''. No clue about if its the same with Fallout : NV though. Similarly EA held off on releasing Dragon Age : Inquisition, and I think reason was a romance-able (read fuckable since its Bioware) centaur looking guy called Iron Bull.