Posted December 20, 2016
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fronzelneekburm
I'm back!
Registered: Apr 2012
From China, People's Republic of
Posted December 20, 2016
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Because this thread was opened at a time when most sane individuals went from knee-jerk #notallmuslims reactions to "I'm getting sick of this shit".
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Tyrrhia
Meme War I Lad
Registered: Mar 2016
From France
Posted December 20, 2016
(I meant to write “White and right‐wing” but I noticed too late.) Anyway, no one said they were, but I sure don’t see the same kind of reaction when such stuff comes from a left or minority environment.
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Shadowstalker16
Jaded optimist
Registered: Apr 2014
From India
Posted December 20, 2016
Has the phrase ''be the change'' ever been communicated to you?
fables22: No, whether it is OK or not is exactly the question. And no, it's not OK.
Also - no one said they were. That's the problem though. Many people here think the question is why they don't get to choose by themselves what's OK. A simple hide posts of users feature perhaps?
The question of whether its OK or not really depends on what the people managing the forum wants, ie you guys. To some forum owners, what Bradley said is OK. After all, forum and site rules aren't enforceable laws and what rules are obeyed is virtually fully in the hands of the managers. Its not anyone said online forums must have parity with real world laws beyond not allowing illegal activity.
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Also - no one said they were.
The question of whether its OK or not really depends on what the people managing the forum wants, ie you guys. To some forum owners, what Bradley said is OK. After all, forum and site rules aren't enforceable laws and what rules are obeyed is virtually fully in the hands of the managers. Its not anyone said online forums must have parity with real world laws beyond not allowing illegal activity.
Post edited December 20, 2016 by Shadowstalker16
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fables22
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Dismember77777
The World Insane
Registered: Sep 2016
From United States
Posted December 20, 2016
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Victims? Eurotards brought all this on themselves, the only thing to be sad about is more people weren't killed.
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Shadowstalker16
Jaded optimist
Registered: Apr 2014
From India
Posted December 20, 2016
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That's the problem though. Many people here think the question is why they don't get to choose by themselves what's OK. A simple hide posts of users feature perhaps?
The question of whether its OK or not really depends on what the people managing the forum wants, ie you guys. To some forum owners, what Bradley said is OK. After all, forum and site rules aren't enforceable laws and what rules are obeyed is virtually fully in the hands of the managers. Its not anyone said online forums must have parity with real world laws beyond not allowing illegal activity.
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An important difference though is that heavy handed laws that curb speech can be legally pursued in court in real life while on the internet, it will just be a gradual imposition of more and more regulations. Ofc any regulations can be had since its not the user's forum, but that's where the question how much control shows up.
I for one certainly don't want moderation like that on the default subs of reddit for example, or neogaf, where the actual rules are ignored and the real rules are little more than agreeing with a position or being banned. Basically, what I'm saying is that I don't think ''conventional'' moderation is not something to aspire to.
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fables22
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Registered: Oct 2016
From Poland
Posted December 20, 2016
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An important difference though is that heavy handed laws that curb speech can be legally pursued in court in real life while on the internet, it will just be a gradual imposition of more and more regulations. Ofc any regulations can be had since its not the user's forum, but that's where the question how much control shows up.
I for one certainly don't want moderation like that on the default subs of reddit for example, or neogaf, where the actual rules are ignored and the real rules are little more than agreeing with a position or being banned. Basically, what I'm saying is that I don't think ''conventional'' moderation is not something to aspire to.
And it's not about having to agree with the mainstream opinion - it's about being able to voice opinions that differ without offending and/or insulting anyone. Which means changes of behaviour must be made on both sides, so we can actually have a meaningful discussion.
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throgh
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From Other
Posted December 20, 2016
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American channels report that Isis claimed to be behind the killing, whereas European media are still going for the classic "maybe it was just an accident". So I guess that means it really was an attack, then...
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fables22
Bacon of light
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Registered: Oct 2016
From Poland
Posted December 20, 2016
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American channels report that Isis claimed to be behind the killing, whereas European media are still going for the classic "maybe it was just an accident". So I guess that means it really was an attack, then...
![avatar](http://images.gog.com/0daac43ce62013ff7c1f68aefdd5040e3067bdf5aea22083063181f5ac351157_avm.jpg)
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Post edited December 20, 2016 by fables22
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Shadowstalker16
Jaded optimist
Registered: Apr 2014
From India
Posted December 20, 2016
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An important difference though is that heavy handed laws that curb speech can be legally pursued in court in real life while on the internet, it will just be a gradual imposition of more and more regulations. Ofc any regulations can be had since its not the user's forum, but that's where the question how much control shows up.
I for one certainly don't want moderation like that on the default subs of reddit for example, or neogaf, where the actual rules are ignored and the real rules are little more than agreeing with a position or being banned. Basically, what I'm saying is that I don't think ''conventional'' moderation is not something to aspire to.
![avatar](http://images.gog.com/9ca38706c3262c308275686be5fddf2a147407cfe68ad5fa7372b280c3b2429f_avm.jpg)
And it's not about having to agree with the mainstream opinion - it's about being able to voice opinions that differ without offending and/or insulting anyone. Which means changes of behaviour must be made on both sides, so we can actually have a meaningful discussion.
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fables22
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Registered: Oct 2016
From Poland
Posted December 20, 2016
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And it's not about having to agree with the mainstream opinion - it's about being able to voice opinions that differ without offending and/or insulting anyone. Which means changes of behaviour must be made on both sides, so we can actually have a meaningful discussion.
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Shadowstalker16
Jaded optimist
Registered: Apr 2014
From India
Posted December 20, 2016
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GreasyDogMeat
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Registered: Jan 2012
From United States
Posted December 20, 2016
high rated
Muhammad is the perfect role model of Islam. Muhammad was uncertain that he would reach Heaven. Yet the Quran offers a few guarantees of reaching Heaven.
-Immigrating to another country, bringing the message of Allah and dying in the process. "And whosoever leaves his home as an emigrant unto Allah and His Messenger, and death overtakes him, his reward is then surely incumbent upon Allah."
-Jihad in the cause of Allah. "Let those (believers) who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter fight in the Cause of Allah, and whoso fights in the Cause of Allah, and is killed or gets victory, We shall bestow on him a great reward (Surah 4:74)".
Yet you people either wonder why these acts are being committed or call those of us bringing this to your attention hate mongers. THE TERRORISTS ARE THE TRUE BELIEVERS!
Here come the down votes.
-Immigrating to another country, bringing the message of Allah and dying in the process. "And whosoever leaves his home as an emigrant unto Allah and His Messenger, and death overtakes him, his reward is then surely incumbent upon Allah."
-Jihad in the cause of Allah. "Let those (believers) who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter fight in the Cause of Allah, and whoso fights in the Cause of Allah, and is killed or gets victory, We shall bestow on him a great reward (Surah 4:74)".
Yet you people either wonder why these acts are being committed or call those of us bringing this to your attention hate mongers. THE TERRORISTS ARE THE TRUE BELIEVERS!
Here come the down votes.