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Great news, I hope it's summer time because it suits me just fine and i don't have to anger my boss at work just because i come 1 hour late every single time when i forget to change my clock to Winter/Summer time.

It's the only good thing EU has done in a long time and it's not even that important in the grand scheme of things, they will fuck up again soon after.
Post edited September 01, 2018 by ChrisGamer300
I know that winter time is the "default" time but they better make it summer time all year. I honestly loathe winter time.
Nothing to do with the time change, but just checking on something.

Am I the only one who prefers actual winter to summer? I know it's not that common but I can't be the ONLY one.
And mind you, I get 22 feet of snow every year. :P
Post edited September 01, 2018 by tinyE
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tinyE: Nothing to do with the time change, but just checking on something.

Am I the only one who prefers actual winter to summer? I know it's not that common but I can't be the ONLY one.
And mind you, I get 22 feet of snow every year. :P
Goth tendencies?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpBFOJ3R0M4
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tinyE: Nothing to do with the time change, but just checking on something.

Am I the only one who prefers actual winter to summer? I know it's not that common but I can't be the ONLY one.
And mind you, I get 22 feet of snow every year. :P
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wpegg: Goth tendencies?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpBFOJ3R0M4
Garbage is not a goth band!
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tinyE: Garbage is not a goth band!
Sorry old man, I forgot that everything is relevative.

More your kind of rebellion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fYZdQB8w_s
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tinyE: Am I the only one who prefers actual winter to summer? I know it's not that common but I can't be the ONLY one.
And mind you, I get 22 feet of snow every year. :P
Probably not. I met some people on other boards that were complaining that it would stay dark during most of the morning, but that is how my biological clock ticks anyway so I prefer summer time too ;)
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tinyE: Am I the only one who prefers actual winter to summer? I know it's not that common but I can't be the ONLY one.
And mind you, I get 22 feet of snow every year. :P
If I'd live by the mountains, yes! I would enjoy winter. Unfortunately, I'm surrounded by f'ing corn fields. And that makes things boring and gloomy.
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tinyE: Am I the only one who prefers actual winter to summer? I know it's not that common but I can't be the ONLY one.
And mind you, I get 22 feet of snow every year. :P
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Cambrey: If I'd live by the mountains, yes! I would enjoy winter. Unfortunately, I'm surrounded by f'ing corn fields. And that makes things boring and gloomy.
I'd think a fucking corn field would be really cool! :D

Then again, an average day where Cambrey lives.
Post edited September 01, 2018 by tinyE
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MajicMan: Sure, if you are farming it makes sense to go by the sun.
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I want the extra time in the sun in the evening when I can enjoy it. Why would I want to give up this beautiful scene and evening at 7:30 p.m. local time in late August for pitch black dark?
That's somewhat contradicting. Are you a farmer, as clearly you go by the sun as well, ie. caring whether sun stays up "longer" in the evenings?

I am not a farmer but I still promote the idea that clock being at certain time means the same thing all over the world, like I can expect that at 12 o'clock the day is pretty much at its brightest, and at 0 o'clock the night at its darkest, no matter where in the world I am. That's what clock was invented for, to tell us the whether it is morning, evening, whatever.

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MajicMan: But when school starts at a set time and the banks, stock markets and business operate at a set time moving the clock back 1 hour for winter/normal time means that you have one hour less of the sun in the evening.
If people feel that is a problem, shouldn't that "set time" be moved back, instead of moving the clock forward? Or if it is only you who wants that, then you should seek a job where you can leave earlier, or even a nightshift work where you can have all the sunlight in the world for your freetime?

For the problem that you present, moving the clock is the wrong solution.

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vsr: Russia is not using DST since 2011.
Welcome to the club. =)
I think India and Thailand haven't used DST since like ever, or sumthing. Finland didn't have DST before 1981, and joined it only because the rest of the Europe was using it, in order to be in sync with those bastards.

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KingTLS: I like the idea.

Setting up international meeting during the clock change season is annoying. I have had emails about clients showing up an hour early.
Yep, one of the major things which made me hate DST as well, as earlier I had to try to agree on recurring weekly meetings with e.g. Indians, who don't have DST. It was always the same twice a year, they would complain that suddenly the recurring meetings were overlapping with their other meetings because in their calendars it was suddenly moved by one hour, even if in my calendar it was always at 13:00.

It would be even worse trying to agree on recurring meetings with Americans, as they also change to/from DST... but on different days than EU. So, the calendars go out of sync four times a year with them.
Post edited September 01, 2018 by timppu
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Tallima: See, this is what I don't get. Who cares what the label is? It makes sense to have a clock represent something we can agree upon. If 1pm or 12pm is when this sun is highest, that's fine.
Moving the clock forward so that one can leave work earlier is the wrong solution to the problem. The right solution would be to change the time that person (or everyone who so wishes) go to work, and leave work. So if earlier you went to work at 9 am and left 5 pm, you should go to work at 8 pm so that you can leave at 4 pm.

The reason I promote not moving the clock to "summertime" (even permanently) is because the idea of the sun being at its highest at 12 o'clock makes it easier to predict different things, like if you see the sun is rising at 7 am, it is easy to calculate that it will set at around 5 pm, and so on and so forth.

"So what if sun it at its highest at 1 pm instead?" Or 2pm? Or 4pm? Gee, maybe 9pm? There is a reason we have a clock, to easily predict and tell at which point of the day we are, even if we are not farmers. Moving it around for wrong reasons makes it harder to use it for that purpose.
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tinyE: Nothing to do with the time change, but just checking on something.

Am I the only one who prefers actual winter to summer? I know it's not that common but I can't be the ONLY one.
And mind you, I get 22 feet of snow every year. :P
I like both summer and winter, as long as they are proper summer and winter. This summer was good in Finland (sun shining, +30 for weeks and weeks), and sometimes we still get proper winter with -10 C or lower with lots of snow.

But then sometimes we get shitty summers with rain and +15 C, and winters with rain and +3 C. Shit.

I like the difference proper summers and winters bring. I'd get bored if it is constantly summer, or constantly winter.
I'm all in favour of getting rid of DST. Banjamin Franklin made a joke once and idiots actually implemented it.

As for which time to stay on, winter time is the correct time. Now hear me out on this, I have a crazy idea: what if we moved all those working hours one hour back! Because frankly speaking, I want more sunlight during the winter when sunlight is already scarce, not during the summer when there is already enough sunlight. This way the clocks stay correct and we still get all the benefits of summer time. Seriously, who would not want that one extra hour of daytime during winter? You know what, make it two hours for all I care, it doesn't matter whether it's still dark when you go to school or work, most of that time will be spent indoors anyway.
I answered permament winter (normal) time when they asked with the survey. So they better implement that. Screw summer time.
https://xkcd.com/673/