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Posted November 24, 2017
Please vote:
https://i.imgur.com/DdK7ODM.jpg
Posted November 25, 2017
On last Black Friday:
https://s19.postimg.org/7wgk2ynj7/battlefront2.jpg
Posted November 30, 2017
EA's day of reckoning is here after 'Star Wars' game uproar, $3 billion in stock value wiped out
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/28/eas-day-of-reckoning-is-here-after-star-wars-game-uproar.html
Posted November 30, 2017
EA and Activision are the Flim Flam brothers of mega publishers.
Posted November 30, 2017
How to quickly earn Battlefront credits after loot boxes have been removed:
http://images.eurogamer.net/2017/articles/2017-11-24-13-59/battlefront_2_afk_rubber_band_1.jpg/EG11/resize/600x-1/quality/80/format/jpg

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-11-24-how-star-wars-battlefront-2-players-are-using-rubber-bands-to-cheat-their-way-to-credits
Post edited November 30, 2017 by Klumpen0815
Posted November 30, 2017
I'd like to see them explain how going AFK and attaching a rubberband, by its nature an inanimate object, to the controller is considered cheating, without them admitting the system is broken to begin with. You're not altering game code. You're not accessing knowledge that can give you an unfair advantage. The only way you can gain an unfair advantage is if, gasp, you use the legal system in place and pay money.
Posted November 30, 2017
So. In all honesty, how many of us on the Internet publicly raging about EA with EA Battlefront II (or WB with Shadow of War, or Activision Blizzard with Call of Duty WWII) are going to be lining up to buy their pre-order copy of whatever shiny thing EA, WB or ActiBlizz will next dangle in front of us like a cat?

Because that's where the real problem lies: with us, the consumers. We can raise as big an uproar as we want, but at the end of the day, the "Boycott Modern Warfare II" campaign is what it'll end up becoming.
Post edited November 30, 2017 by rampancy
Posted November 30, 2017
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rampancy: So. In all honesty, how many of us on the Internet publicly raging about EA with EA Battlefront II (or WB with Shadow of War, or Activision Blizzard with Call of Duty WWII) are going to be lining up to buy their pre-order copy of whatever shiny thing EA, WB or ActiBlizz will next dangle in front of us like a cat?

Because that's where the real problem lies: with us, the consumers. We can raise as big an uproar as we want, but at the end of the day, the "Boycott Modern Warfare II" campaign is what it'll end up becoming.
The effect on EA is that they will have to abandon the pay-to-win lootbox model going forward. And they were planning to find ways to insert this scheme throughout all their franchises. Imagine Dragon Age: The Pay-to-Win Lootbox Epic.

i will never buy or play Battlefront, but I will buy Dragon Age games and other AAA franchise title that they put out. As long as they don't move lootboxes in.
Posted December 01, 2017
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Klumpen0815: EA's day of reckoning is here after 'Star Wars' game uproar, $3 billion in stock value wiped out
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/28/eas-day-of-reckoning-is-here-after-star-wars-game-uproar.html
Good. I am glad to see EA finally losing money over their practices. May it spread to WB and Craptivison too
Posted December 01, 2017
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Klumpen0815: EA's day of reckoning is here after 'Star Wars' game uproar, $3 billion in stock value wiped out
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/28/eas-day-of-reckoning-is-here-after-star-wars-game-uproar.html
This makes my day, all those greedy tactics come back to bite them and cost them big time. Unfortunately the sports game division will keep them alive
Posted December 01, 2017
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rampancy: So. In all honesty, how many of us on the Internet publicly raging about EA with EA Battlefront II (or WB with Shadow of War, or Activision Blizzard with Call of Duty WWII) are going to be lining up to buy their pre-order copy of whatever shiny thing EA, WB or ActiBlizz will next dangle in front of us like a cat?

Because that's where the real problem lies: with us, the consumers. We can raise as big an uproar as we want, but at the end of the day, the "Boycott Modern Warfare II" campaign is what it'll end up becoming.
Its a pretty easy thing to do. You just buy another game instead, there are so many out there. Heck, you could even play the original Battlefront 2 right here on GOG instead. haha
Posted December 01, 2017
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Klumpen0815: EA's day of reckoning is here after 'Star Wars' game uproar, $3 billion in stock value wiped out
It's just a temporary setback. In no way does it harm the the CFO, shareholders and the bosses of EA who still collect six figure salaries and made the decision to put the micro transactions in the game in the first place.

Most gamers being the idiots they are, will continue to buy other EA games thereby giving more money to greedy EA scumbags.
Posted December 01, 2017
in all honesty? I would like to see Congress step in and define lootboxes in games as gambling. That way, the ONLY way to have them is if the games meet the laws for a casino, running each and every patch/game release by them first. Possibly define costs for boxes above a certain amount or spending above a reasonable amount (say $1 for a box, cannot buy any more than 5) gambling. I would also ask Congress to look at the F2P market and see what is gambling and what is not based on how much things cost in-game. This would shut-down those free-to-play games you see advertised on TV as they make money off their expensive packages.

Of course, defining it as gambling does nothing if you can use a parent's credit card attatched to their account...
Posted December 01, 2017
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misteryo: The effect on EA is that they will have to abandon the pay-to-win lootbox model going forward. And they were planning to find ways to insert this scheme throughout all their franchises. Imagine Dragon Age: The Pay-to-Win Lootbox Epic.

i will never buy or play Battlefront, but I will buy Dragon Age games and other AAA franchise title that they put out. As long as they don't move lootboxes in.
I would love to see that happen as much as the next guy, but EA Battlefront II still sold copies (albeit at a 50% drop compared to EABF1), even though we knew loot boxes would be in the game. Call of Duty WWII apparently had a massively successful launch, with opening weekend figures supposedly greater than Thor: Ragnarok and Wonder Woman's opening weekends combined. Destiny II was also wildly successful financially too. All three of these games have their own fair share of rabid defenders, who either resort to arguments that "games cost too much to make", or simply don't want to hear about Loot Boxes at all anymore.

My point is that even though more and more people are supposedly upset and angry over increasingly predatory and anti-consumer practices such as these, people are still buying these games. And how many of the people who bought these games, and who will in all likelihood be placing their preorders for the next game, were the ones going on forums, social media or YouTube chanting slogans like "fuck EA" and "I will never buy another EA game again!"

Call me excessively cynical, but I'd wager that the vast majority of the people out there ragging on EA (and I don't necessarily mean the people here on this forum), or ActiBlizz or WB, would be more than willing to stand in line for the next Destiny, or Battlefield/front, or Call of Duty game the minute it gets announced. Add to that some random game industry exec publicly professing apologies and promises that "We'll change, no really, it'll be different this time!" and you have a customer base who'll keep coming back to you time and again, no matter what you do.

Once the gaming community and the gaming press forget all about loot boxes (and they will, within 1-3 months), EA will reenable loot boxes, and everything will return to the status quo. EA Battlefront III wiil be even more like a F2P/P2W mobile game, only that it'll not just be a full $60 retail release with loot boxes, but it'll be on an Office 365-style subscription plan with all of the requisite strong-arming to ensure that everyone switches to the subscription plan for the "full experience". There will be a massive public backlash for 1-3 months, and then everyone will forget about it, and we'll all wind up accepting it. Just like how we will with loot boxes, except the usual vocal corners of the internet, which will get marginalized by the mainstream. Lather, rinse, repeat.

I really want to be wrong about this. I really, really do.
Posted December 01, 2017
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misteryo: The effect on EA is that they will have to abandon the pay-to-win lootbox model going forward. And they were planning to find ways to insert this scheme throughout all their franchises. Imagine Dragon Age: The Pay-to-Win Lootbox Epic.

i will never buy or play Battlefront, but I will buy Dragon Age games and other AAA franchise title that they put out. As long as they don't move lootboxes in.
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rampancy: I would love to see that happen as much as the next guy, but EA Battlefront II still sold copies (albeit at a 50% drop compared to EABF1), even though we knew loot boxes would be in the game. Call of Duty WWII apparently had a massively successful launch, with opening weekend figures supposedly greater than Thor: Ragnarok and Wonder Woman's opening weekends combined. Destiny II was also wildly successful financially too. All three of these games have their own fair share of rabid defenders, who either resort to arguments that "games cost too much to make", or simply don't want to hear about Loot Boxes at all anymore.

My point is that even though more and more people are supposedly upset and angry over increasingly predatory and anti-consumer practices such as these, people are still buying these games. And how many of the people who bought these games, and who will in all likelihood be placing their preorders for the next game, were the ones going on forums, social media or YouTube chanting slogans like "fuck EA" and "I will never buy another EA game again!"

Call me excessively cynical, but I'd wager that the vast majority of the people out there ragging on EA (and I don't necessarily mean the people here on this forum), or ActiBlizz or WB, would be more than willing to stand in line for the next Destiny, or Battlefield/front, or Call of Duty game the minute it gets announced. Add to that some random game industry exec publicly professing apologies and promises that "We'll change, no really, it'll be different this time!" and you have a customer base who'll keep coming back to you time and again, no matter what you do.

Once the gaming community and the gaming press forget all about loot boxes (and they will, within 1-3 months), EA will reenable loot boxes, and everything will return to the status quo. EA Battlefront III wiil be even more like a F2P/P2W mobile game, only that it'll not just be a full $60 retail release with loot boxes, but it'll be on an Office 365-style subscription plan with all of the requisite strong-arming to ensure that everyone switches to the subscription plan for the "full experience". There will be a massive public backlash for 1-3 months, and then everyone will forget about it, and we'll all wind up accepting it. Just like how we will with loot boxes, except the usual vocal corners of the internet, which will get marginalized by the mainstream. Lather, rinse, repeat.

I really want to be wrong about this. I really, really do.
But you don't sound like you read the news items linked earlier in the discussion. EA's stock value dropped over 3 billion dollars! Their stockholders are furious. That's where the change will happen.
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