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Breja: http://io9.gizmodo.com/heres-your-first-official-look-at-civil-wars-big-villai-1771008178

Funny, I didn't even know there's going to be villain in Civil War, I thought it's just two sets of hereoes against each other. He doesn't exactly look impressive either. I'm not getting much of a Baron Zemo vibe. I don't know the character well at all, but still. I know, it's just one picture, but so far (except for Loki) Marvel has been rather terrible in the villains department.
Well, if the Avengers war amongst themselves, Hydra simply HAS to act on that, in order to escalate things even further.

I'm kinda curious as to how Zemo will be presented here. I'm not surprised that he doesn't have the mask. If you have a prolific actor like Daniel Bruehl, you don't wanna hide his face. I'm thinking that Zemo is like an influential businessman or a political figure, as a cover for who he is aka one of the leaders of Hydra who holds Crossbones' leash.
Post edited April 14, 2016 by Nergal01
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Nergal01: I'm thinking that Zemo is like an influential businessman or a political figure,
I really hope tit's something else. I mean, how many evil CEO/politicians have we already seen in the MCU movies? Five? Enough already.
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Nergal01: I'm thinking that Zemo is like an influential businessman or a political figure,
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Breja: I really hope tit's something else. I mean, how many evil CEO/politicians have we already seen in the MCU movies? Five? Enough already.
Ok, decided to count them up:

Iron Man 1: Evil CEO as main bad guy - 1 point
Cap 1: None
Thor 1: None
Iron Man 2: Not counting Hammer (who is incompetent rather than evil), None.
Avengers 1: None
Iron Man 3: Not counting Mandarin, as he's not a politician or CEO, None.
Cap 2: Corrupt politician from the late Gary Shandling as Senator Stern, though not a main character. Redford's character (Pierce) was not politician or CEO. - 0.5 points
Thor 2: None
Ant-Man: Corrupt CEO as main bad guy - 1 point
Avengers 2: None

I count that at 2.5. Happy to hear counter arguments or people I missed. I'm assuming you're wanting Mandarin and Pierce included, in which case you're more just referring to people that are blending into society, bad guys are always going to be powerful figures.
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wpegg: I count that at 2.5. Happy to hear counter arguments or people I missed. I'm assuming you're wanting Mandarin and Pierce included, in which case you're more just referring to people that are blending into society, bad guys are always going to be powerful figures.
I'm counting both Hammer (he might be more of an annoying "comic" relief than a villain, but he's there and there's a shitload of him), and Guy Pearce in Iron Man 3. Especially the latter. We could have had proper Mandarin, magic vs technology, east vs west, but instead we've got another white guy in suit & tie. Yawn.

Oh, and I'm counting Redford fully, as a member of the World Security Council. "Politician" enough for me. We don't need to split hairs. And I totally forgot about Senator Stern, so that would make it 6 in my book.
Post edited April 15, 2016 by Breja
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mobutu: probably it's going to suck
Isn't that Licurg's schtick?
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mobutu: probably it's going to suck
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Elmofongo: Isn't that Licurg's schtick?
No, nobody sucks Licurg's schtick. God knows what you'd catch.
It's Marvell. Of course it's going to suck. Same story lines. Death is meaningless. Worse than soap opera level drama. Then let's not forget a complete lack of understanding for physics, not that one should expect a comic to adhere to reality.
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qwixter: It's Marvell. Of course it's going to suck. Same story lines. Death is meaningless. Worse than soap opera level drama. Then let's not forget a complete lack of understanding for physics, not that one should expect a comic to adhere to reality.
And don;t get me started on the "humor"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8ohTJp3PAA
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qwixter: It's Marvell. Of course it's going to suck. Same story lines. Death is meaningless. Worse than soap opera level drama. Then let's not forget a complete lack of understanding for physics, not that one should expect a comic to adhere to reality.
Or you could say, world class actors, excellent cinematography, great sound design, expensive effects and a bunch of cool superheros battling it out that everyone has been waiting for since the comics were created. Just saying. :P
Post edited April 17, 2016 by bad_fur_day1
I watched it today and I'm happy to say the movie is pretty great! Specially Spiderman. Granted he doesn't have that many scenes and certainly does feel like a late addition to the script, but the character itself, both as Peter Parker and Spiderman, was great and is likely the best combination of the two sides of the character we've seen so far.

I kind of enjoyed the villain, keeping in mind that he doesn't have that much screentime, and that I've never read the comics so I don't know how well adapted he was, but judging it just by what I saw in the movie, yeah, I kinda liked him.

Black Panther, despite having much more screentime than Spiderman, was much more lacklustre. It may be unfair, considering Spiderman has had 5 movies and multiple cartoons in the last 20 years to establish the character in pop culture, and the movie certainly was counting on us already being familiar with him to skip most of the introductions. Black Panther didn't have all that, all he has is this bit part in another hero's movie. Fair or not, the fact is he came off as very bland and generic, and the only thing special about him that I can say is that he fights with claws, I guess. So while everyone is excited now for the next Spiderman movie, Black Panther definitely has a hill to climb.

Everyone else was the same as always, and they're clearly good at it by this point. Special mention to RDJ and his Tony Stark, for putting some acting in it, after the last few movies featuring him as just a walking quip dispenser.
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DaCostaBR: I watched it today and I'm happy to say the movie is pretty great!
Now I'm waiting for everyone to start flaming you by shouting "You have a Marvel bias!". :P
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qwixter: It's Marvell. Of course it's going to suck. Same story lines. Death is meaningless. Worse than soap opera level drama. Then let's not forget a complete lack of understanding for physics, not that one should expect a comic to adhere to reality.
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Elmofongo: And don;t get me started on the "humor"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8ohTJp3PAA
As opposed to "humor" we got in Man of Steel and Superman v. Batman? :P
Post edited April 29, 2016 by rampancy
Saw it yesterday, and I liked it a lot. "Civil War" is exactly what I hoped it'd be, e.g. nothing like the comic. ;)
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DaCostaBR: I watched it today and I'm happy to say the movie is pretty great!
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rampancy: Now I'm waiting for everyone to start flaming you by shouting "You have a Marvel bias!". :P
Well, it doesn't open here until May 6th, so I'll have to wait untill then (and probably a couple more days, I doubt I'll see it day 1) before I can shout anything.
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DaCostaBR: I watched it today and I'm happy to say the movie is pretty great!
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rampancy: Now I'm waiting for everyone to start flaming you by shouting "You have a Marvel bias!". :P
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Elmofongo: And don;t get me started on the "humor"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8ohTJp3PAA
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rampancy: As opposed to "humor" we got in Man of Steel and Superman v. Batman? :P
Whatever humor those 2 movies had at least it was not as corny and cringeworthy as Guardians of the Galaxy.
So! I just finished seeing Captain America: Civil War. I was in one of the areas where it opened a week early.

If you enjoyed Winter Soldier and the first Avengers movie, suffice to say you'll thoroughly enjoy this as it carries much of the same tone that the Russo brothers established in Winter Soldier, plus some of the humour and banter we saw in Ant-Man and Whedon's Avengers movies. There's a lot of solid writing, good action and character development (especially with Black Panther), in my opinion. Where the movie still stumbles in my book is the part also shown in trailers where Ross is showing footage from past MCU movies and accusing them of being responsible for the collateral damage seen in those films...even though in those films, it was arguably unavoidable save for letting the bad guys win. You're blaming the Avengers for the destruction in NYC in the first Avengers movie? What, would you rather have had Loki and the Chitauri take over the Earth and enslave humanity?

There are also a couple of characters who come across as being shoehorned into the movie, too. To their credit, they did have good moments in the film, in my opinion. However, if they'd been cut entirely from the movie I don't think it would have suffered all that much for it.

In short, if you've enjoyed the MCU or superhero movies overall, you'll enjoy this movie, a lot, I personally think. If you hate all superhero movies on sight, or hate the MCU, this isn't going to change your mind.

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Elmofongo: Whatever humor those 2 movies had at least it was not as corny and cringeworthy as Guardians of the Galaxy.
The thing was, I personally loved the humor in Guardians of the Galaxy. It was a fun, off-kilter movie that wasn't afraid to not take itself too seriously. The humor added a lot to the charm. For me personally, if the alternative is a dour, utterly humorless, depressing movie like Batman v. Superman, I'll take Guardians of the Galaxy any day. But I'm cool with people finding it cheap and corny. Different strokes and all that.
Post edited April 29, 2016 by rampancy