Hi, I've recently become interesting in playing some (campaign) co-op games with a friend who's very much into (first person) dungeon crawlers (I'm thinking of things like Stonekeep, Legend of Grimrock, and the like). Do you know games that would fit the description?

https://www.gog.com/game/barony_cursed_edition

Thanks for the links guys! You said the classic game for this would "of course" be Bloodwych. Can you elaborate on that?

Because back in the day (in 1989) the two-player coop mode of Bloodwych was what this game made special and it was (for many years) THE choice game for coop dungeon crawling. Just like Dungeon Master is the classic single player dungeon crawler (with maybe Eye of the Beholder later, which made the genre popular with AD&D rules and fancy VGA graphics).
And you mentioning StoneKeep told me you're not afraid of oldies ;-)

Double Dungeons on the TG-16. Not necessarily a great game, but it's a split-screen co-op dungeon crawler.

Not a dungeon crawler but a really good co-op RPG: Divinity: Original Sin.

Personally, I found Never Winter Nights 1 to be a great co-op game. First or Third person view depending upon what each of you wants. And you can both have henchman which allows your own character to be more specialized.

There should be tons and tons of modules still available to download and play. You can stay together and help each other or you can throw each other to the wolves and leave your friend to die. The cutscenes and plot lines get a little messed up with only one of you reading / seeing them, but just pick a more dungeon crawler oriented module that doesn't have much plot to solve that issue.

I admit I haven't played much of NwN, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't have a first-person perspective option (at least, not without hacks). Or am I nuts? :P

I've also never heard that this game offers a first person mode (but then again, even Take No Prisoners has one, with cheats though). It would be really cool if it did, because I'm not a big fan of 3rd person perspectives. I find them to be less immersive.

So far, I find Barony the most interesting of the games mentioned (save for 1st person NwN). Seems a bit of an underground game (no pun intended).

What's wrong with that?

(I've never really understood the point of immersion in games. Aren't (most) video games supposed to be all about fun?)

Well ... It of course depends on what kind of game you're playing. On the one extreme of the spectrum, there are "game games" like Tetris, Minesweeper or Chess that do well with having no immersion whatsoever. On the other extreme there is "interactive fiction" (i.e. "walking simulators") that have almost no game mechanic whatsoever and completely depend on immersion to give an enjoyable experience.

And your average game is probably somewhere in the middle part of that spectrum.

and what about dungeon crawlers with po-op?

Binding of Isaac: Rebirth has both.
(Though I don't know if I'd call it a dungeon crawler)

NWN definitely doesn't have a first person view, but there's a camera hack that allows you to zoom in so much that you can't see your character anymore and that's more or less like assuming a first person perspective. It's not very practical to play in that view though, since the game wasn't made with that perspective in mind and still relies heavily on mouse clicks and tactical overview. Also note that what enables this is an actually hack, not one of those hakpaks you just copy into your hak or override folder, but a tool that permanently changes the original .exe file you apply it to.

(I do approve of it though, it gives you much more freedom. The default camera options in the NWN games are terrible; I wish there was such a camera hack for NWN2 as well.)