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wolfsite: Yes but they are not up to date, they only go up to Atomic Edition so they don't include any official content beyond that so you would need to look elsewhere if you want the complete experience.
Some might actually desire the "less complete experience" more, I am guessing.
(those who dislike or don't want the newer versions for some reason. of course, this is not to say I think the new versions are bad or anything...just that some might like/desire the older versions more for one reason or another :))

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Paradoks: Steam never got those back either. Original platformers, Balls of Steel, Manhattan Project, original 3D and Megaton Edition are not on Steam. Only Zoom Platform has some of those and that's a little shady if you ask me.
It has been verified by several people prior to this point that zoom platform has a deal with the ip holders to sell them unless the ip holder specifically asks for them to be pulled.

Seeing as the ip holder knows the games are being sold there, and hasn't asked for them to be pulled, it is therefore obvious those versions are on the up and up. :)

(if you still don't trust it, you may feel free to message the rights holders and ask for yourself :))
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temps: I was thinking of playing one of the old Duke Nukem games when someone suggested I could get it on GOG but when I search for it in the store I am not seeing it there.

Was it taken down or something?
Randy Pitchford is the owner of the Duke Nukem IP.

Take up your issue with him. He is widely reviled and hated in the Duke 3D fanbase and his keeping Duke 3D off of GOG is one of many reasons for that revulsion and hatred.
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DreamedArtist: Why have we never got back the series but only steam did?
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Paradoks: Steam never got those back either. Original platformers, Balls of Steel, Manhattan Project, original 3D and Megaton Edition are not on Steam. Only Zoom Platform has some of those and that's a little shady if you ask me.
I'm still not sure where this idea of shady comes from in all honesty, it's pretty transparent. Sure, the website is outdated but that's about it. If you have any questions about it feel free to ask
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Darvond: (Jokingly said:) It's probably due to the fact that we demean Randy Pitchford instead of worshiping the air he breathes.
You mean Pandy Richford, right?
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Time4Tea: They are available DRM-free on Zoom Platform. I bought Duke 3D from there and the offline installer works fine.
Never heard of this platform, is it legit? There are a lot of games on there from 1C which steam versions aren't drm-free from my limited testing, seems odd they'd be selling them externally drm-free.
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mqstout: You mean Pandy Richford, right?
Ken Penders.
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Linko64: I'm still not sure where this idea of shady comes from in all honesty, it's pretty transparent. Sure, the website is outdated but that's about it. If you have any questions about it feel free to ask
Imo the "shady" talk, generally speaking, likely comes(in part) from some not trusting new stores and sites too much, and instead of wanting to do the work to verify the places are legit they simply call them "shady"...thus giving them a reason to not have to bother delving any deeper.
(of course, not saying that that's that user's reason, or every user's reason for saying zoom is shady.....but it seems that that might be the case for some who say such)

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TheGrand547: Never heard of this platform, is it legit? There are a lot of games on there from 1C which steam versions aren't drm-free from my limited testing, seems odd they'd be selling them externally drm-free.
From talking to others who did the legwork and checked into things, it would seem they have very good contract terms for some games that allow them to either sell them for a very long period or until the ip holder requests them to stop selling the games on their store.
Post edited February 05, 2021 by GamezRanker
I have my assumptions about Zoom platform

The Company CEO and others seems to be older well known directives of big game companies in the past.

My assumption is that some games are available there in a legal limbo. My assumption is that the great owners do not have any legal agreement with Zoom but a personal promise of not take legal actions if the game is at sale.
Who knows, maybe it is enough.

Imagine something like "I am not to be aware of my game being sold even if I do not receive royalties".

Well. For me it is fine if we consider unfair competition as an option. High quality abandonware. You now. Of course, I could be wrong.
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Gudadantza: I have my assumptions about Zoom platform

The Company CEO and others seems to be older well known directives of big game companies in the past.

My assumption is that some games are available there in a legal limbo. My assumption is that the great owners do not have any legal agreement with Zoom but a personal promise of not take legal actions if the game is at sale.
Who knows, maybe it is enough.

Imagine something like "I am not to be aware of my game being sold even if I do not receive royalties".

Well. For me it is fine if we consider unfair competition as an option. High quality abandonware. You now. Of course, I could be wrong.
Can safely tell you that the assumption is incorrect. No storefront would ever even risk selling games on personal promise over a legal agreement. That would be crazy!
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Gudadantza: I have my assumptions about Zoom platform

The Company CEO and others seems to be older well known directives of big game companies in the past.

My assumption is that some games are available there in a legal limbo. My assumption is that the great owners do not have any legal agreement with Zoom but a personal promise of not take legal actions if the game is at sale.
Who knows, maybe it is enough.

Imagine something like "I am not to be aware of my game being sold even if I do not receive royalties".

Well. For me it is fine if we consider unfair competition as an option. High quality abandonware. You now. Of course, I could be wrong.
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Linko64: Can safely tell you that the assumption is incorrect. No storefront would ever even risk selling games on personal promise over a legal agreement. That would be crazy!
Yes, I agree. It would be crazy.
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Linko64: Can safely tell you that the assumption is incorrect. No storefront would ever even risk selling games on personal promise over a legal agreement. That would be crazy!
Well as long as it's not this chap, we should be fine ;)
Post edited February 05, 2021 by GamezRanker
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Time4Tea: They are available DRM-free on Zoom Platform. I bought Duke 3D from there and the offline installer works fine.
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TheGrand547: Never heard of this platform, is it legit? There are a lot of games on there from 1C which steam versions aren't drm-free from my limited testing, seems odd they'd be selling them externally drm-free.
There is a dedicated thread discussing them here. I have been using them for several months and haven't seen anything to suggest they are not legit. I haven't bought any 1C games from them specifically (not many 1C games really appeal to me, tbh).

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Paradoks: Steam never got those back either. Original platformers, Balls of Steel, Manhattan Project, original 3D and Megaton Edition are not on Steam. Only Zoom Platform has some of those and that's a little shady if you ask me.
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Linko64: I'm still not sure where this idea of shady comes from in all honesty, it's pretty transparent. Sure, the website is outdated but that's about it. If you have any questions about it feel free to ask
I don't really understand it either. A few people posted in that other thread, saying they 'have a bad feeling about them', but were not able to give objective reasons much beyond 'I don't like the look of their site'. Apart from them having a fairly bare-bones site, which is understandable since they are a small store that have been struggling to gain traction and grow, I don't see any red flags.

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Gudadantza: I have my assumptions about Zoom platform

The Company CEO and others seems to be older well known directives of big game companies in the past.

My assumption is that some games are available there in a legal limbo. My assumption is that the great owners do not have any legal agreement with Zoom but a personal promise of not take legal actions if the game is at sale.
Who knows, maybe it is enough.

Imagine something like "I am not to be aware of my game being sold even if I do not receive royalties".

Well. For me it is fine if we consider unfair competition as an option. High quality abandonware. You now. Of course, I could be wrong.
Are you basing that 'assumption' on anything concrete? What reason do you have to believe they don't have written legal contracts with the publishers?

If they were not legit, I would expect them to have a much bigger selection of games and be selling games from more/better-known publishers.
Post edited February 05, 2021 by Time4Tea
Really sad it was removed from GOG. I have often found myself wanting to replay Duke, but alas.. I'm not at all interested in the 20th Anniversary World Tour on steam, which seems inferior to the megaton edition by a mile. I just want to play good old duke, as I remember it.

Maybe some day..
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Paradoks: Steam never got those back either. Original platformers, Balls of Steel, Manhattan Project, original 3D and Megaton Edition are not on Steam. Only Zoom Platform has some of those and that's a little shady if you ask me.
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Linko64: I'm still not sure where this idea of shady comes from in all honesty, it's pretty transparent. Sure, the website is outdated but that's about it. If you have any questions about it feel free to ask
I think Zoom platform is so small that the actual Company forgot to remove the games from them, If you look there is GRID which was removed everywhere else as well and some other games that seem to have not been taken down yet either. so I guess when you think of it yes some people think it's a shady site cause of it's presents but can be a good place to snatch them up DRM free cause every other site don't have it.

I have all the duke games that came out here so I'm lucky but Zoom store might be the last best bet before the companies remember them and tell them to remove it.
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Linko64: I'm still not sure where this idea of shady comes from in all honesty, it's pretty transparent. Sure, the website is outdated but that's about it. If you have any questions about it feel free to ask
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DreamedArtist: I think Zoom platform is so small that the actual Company forgot to remove the games from them, If you look there is GRID which was removed everywhere else as well and some other games that seem to have not been taken down yet either. so I guess when you think of it yes some people think it's a shady site cause of it's presents but can be a good place to snatch them up DRM free cause every other site don't have it.

I have all the duke games that came out here so I'm lucky but Zoom store might be the last best bet before the companies remember them and tell them to remove it.
Actually this must be it, if you look at the Duke Nukem games they have the publisher listed is 3D Realms who no longer hold the rights, so it must be that they are so small they were overlooked when Gearbox pulled the games from other stores.