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I know that Duke Nukem 3D Atomic Edition is available there. Yes, it is a fact.

There is a difference whether people are mentioning the store in a casual talk or whether people of a fixed group who are somehow associated with the platform are mentioning the said store and its products again and again. Of course, this is just talking and not advertisement... not.

Let's say I would be somehow associated with nVidia. Of course, me mentioning nVidia graphics cards in several threads and telling everyone how great they are wouldn't be sus at all..

Before I opened this thread I already knew which user names will pop up. It is not the first time.
I've only seen one Zoom Platfom employee post here, recently, and it's not me because I don't work for them. Do you mention GOG and its games anywhere outside of GOG?
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foad01: Before I opened this thread I already knew which user names will pop up. It is not the first time.
If that is so, and I seriously doubt it, why did you do it?

Putting the name Duke Nukem 3D in the title of this thread, was of course going to bring those here who are aware of where it is currently available. And many of them know why it is only available there, and you appeared to not know any of these two things ... or why else ask what you did with your thread title.

And honestly you can throw aspersions around, but at least some of us were trying to help you, and not really doing a plug for the store you can only get it from, though because we care about DRM-Free, we are always happy to encourage and promote other stores that engage in it too.

I don't have a problem with other folk here in this community forum talking about other stores, though that might depend on the context. And I say that as someone who continues to regularly buy games at GOG, and rarely buys one from that other store, or in fact any other store. I have over 1600 games here now, while at that other store, all told I would have less than 30. And I have often complained about the high prices at that other, much smaller niche store.

So please get off your high horse and being over the top, as you are being even more irrational than those who think GOG are bad for no longer allowing links to other stores here, especially links to games. Imagine going into a local store, and putting up a poster for another store a few streets away that sells similar product. The owner of that local store would rightly be angry at you and not allow it. Putting a link here to another game store, is a very similar thing.

As I said before, GOG are perfectly entitled to protect their financial interests. In fact we are extremely lucky they let many get away with what they can post here. This forum is a pretty open and robust place. Try finding another like it.

Long Live GOG ..... and Long Live ZOOM Platform.
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foad01: Before I opened this thread I already knew which user names will pop up. It is not the first time.
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Timboli: If that is so, and I seriously doubt it, why did you do it?

Putting the name Duke Nukem 3D in the title of this thread, was of course going to bring those here who are aware of where it is currently available. And many of them know why it is only available there, and you appeared to not know any of these two things ... or why else ask what you did with your thread title.
foad isn't the OP of the thread. By "opened this thread", they presumably mean clicking on and reading it.

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Timboli: Imagine going into a local store, and putting up a poster for another store a few streets away that sells similar product. The owner of that local store would rightly be angry at you and not allow it. Putting a link here to another game store, is a very similar thing.
I think the analogy is a bit off, tbh. Most stores don't have an open area with comfy chairs, where people can just sit around and chat. GOG's deleting of links to other stores is like having such an open chat area, with some guys in a secret booth behind a false mirror, listening in to all of the conversations. If anyone mentions to anyone else about directions to 'the other store down the street', a security guard then taps them on the shoulder, saying: "No, no. You can't talk about that in here ..."

The equivalent on GOG of putting up a poster in the store would be somehow hacking into the GOG.com javascript and putting a thumbnail image of Duke Nukem on the front page, with a link to the Zoom Platform URL. Now, that would be advertising (and would be obviously be going too far).
Post edited August 18, 2022 by Time4Tea
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Timboli: If that is so, and I seriously doubt it, why did you do it?

Putting the name Duke Nukem 3D in the title of this thread, was of course going to bring those here who are aware of where it is currently available. And many of them know why it is only available there, and you appeared to not know any of these two things ... or why else ask what you did with your thread title.
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Time4Tea: foad isn't the OP of the thread. By "opened this thread", they presumably mean clicking on and reading it.

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Timboli: Imagine going into a local store, and putting up a poster for another store a few streets away that sells similar product. The owner of that local store would rightly be angry at you and not allow it. Putting a link here to another game store, is a very similar thing.
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Time4Tea: I think the analogy is a bit off, tbh. Most stores don't have an open area with comfy chairs, where people can just sit around and chat. GOG's deleting of links to other stores is like having such an open chat area, with some guys in a secret booth behind a false mirror, listening in to all of the conversations. If anyone mentions to anyone else about directions to 'the other store down the street', a security guard then taps them on the shoulder, saying: "No, no. You can't talk about that in here ..."

The equivalent on GOG of putting up a poster in the store would be somehow hacking into the GOG.com javascript and putting a thumbnail image of Duke Nukem on the front page, with a link to the Zoom Platform URL. Now, that would be advertising (and would be obviously be going too far).
The analogy is fine.
Gog doesn't need to ban any external poster in their store, just ban links in their forum if needed and based in their rules and criteria. Period.
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Timboli: If that is so, and I seriously doubt it, why did you do it?
Huh? Are you not saying/writing something like "I opened a website link" or something similar. I am not the starter of this thread.

I am not sitting on a high horse. I have nothing against casual conversations where people mention any store including the Zoom Platform. However, it is totally sus that certain people can be found in specific threads (like this one here) and are mentioning the store. The frequency of this is the problem. Some of these people are definitely associated with the said store. In this case it is not a casual conversation anymore. It is advertisement. And exactly this has to stop. That's all.
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foad01: I am not sitting on a high horse. I have nothing against casual conversations where people mention any store including the Zoom Platform. However, it is totally sus that certain people can be found in specific threads (like this one here) and are mentioning the store. The frequency of this is the problem. Some of these people are definitely associated with the said store. In this case it is not a casual conversation anymore. It is advertisement. And exactly this has to stop. That's all.
It's funny. I see it the other way around. I see the exact same names coming up in these threads as well: GOG fanboys rushing to defend the store against any possible criticism, justified or not.

Unfortunately, the GOG user base seems to have become rather polarized - between those who are supporters of DRM-free and those who are supporters of GOG.
Post edited August 18, 2022 by Time4Tea
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foad01: I am not sitting on a high horse. I have nothing against casual conversations where people mention any store including the Zoom Platform. However, it is totally sus that certain people can be found in specific threads (like this one here) and are mentioning the store. The frequency of this is the problem. Some of these people are definitely associated with the said store. In this case it is not a casual conversation anymore. It is advertisement. And exactly this has to stop. That's all.
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Time4Tea: Unfortunately, the GOG user base seems to have become rather polarized - between those who are supporters of DRM-free and those who are supporters of GOG.
I only see two sides here. Those who launch such maniqueist, false and manipulative comment and the rest
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Time4Tea: foad isn't the OP of the thread. By "opened this thread", they presumably mean clicking on and reading it.
Fair enough, I probably should have double checked.
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foad01: Huh? Are you not saying/writing something like "I opened a website link" or something similar. I am not the starter of this thread.
What can I say, I'm not perfect .... gawd I hate it when I show my human failings. LOL

Anyway, the majority of what I wrote still stands.
Post edited August 18, 2022 by Timboli
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Time4Tea: Unfortunately, the GOG user base seems to have become rather polarized - between those who are supporters of DRM-free and those who are supporters of GOG.
There are plenty of us here, who do both, and plenty of others beside who don't care that much for either ... just the games.
When I first posted about seeing an old advertisement for Duke Nukem I didn't think I'd get such a massive response. I was just hoping gog was gonna possibly bring back Duke... Why is it GOG that if you do have a active agreement with 3D Realms to sell their games including Duke Nukem why not bring back the DUKE... I Think your customer base is in agreement bringing back the DUKE...
3D Realms doesn't own the rights to Duke Nukem anymore. Gearbox studios does. So go yell at Randy Pitchford because if it isn't here then it's his fault.
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exiledemulator: Why is it GOG that if you do have a active agreement with 3D Realms to sell their games including Duke Nukem why not bring back the DUKE
Nothing to do with GOG.

When Gearbox took over the Duke games, they told GOG to remove them from their store. GOG unlike ZOOM Platform had no choice but to comply.
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exiledemulator: Why is it GOG that if you do have a active agreement with 3D Realms to sell their games including Duke Nukem why not bring back the DUKE
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Timboli: Nothing to do with GOG.

When Gearbox took over the Duke games, they told GOG to remove them from their store. GOG unlike ZOOM Platform had no choice but to comply.
Yes, I've heard about Gearbox transferring rights to Embracer that has something to do with THQ Nordic as I heard at the beginning of this thread.. What I was referring to is what as I heard it anyway that GOG has some type of agreement with the original owners of Atomic Edition that gives them the right to still distribute at least that version of Duke. Unless that agreement is now invalid cause of buy out or merger or whatever Gearbox or whatever Randy is doing to ruin video games for the fan base...
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Timboli: Nothing to do with GOG.

When Gearbox took over the Duke games, they told GOG to remove them from their store. GOG unlike ZOOM Platform had no choice but to comply.
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exiledemulator: Yes, I've heard about Gearbox transferring rights to Embracer that has something to do with THQ Nordic as I heard at the beginning of this thread.. What I was referring to is what as I heard it anyway that GOG has some type of agreement with the original owners of Atomic Edition that gives them the right to still distribute at least that version of Duke. Unless that agreement is now invalid cause of buy out or merger or whatever Gearbox or whatever Randy is doing to ruin video games for the fan base...
The DOS versions of Duke 3D were delisted from GOG and Steam since december 2015. What agreement are you talking about?