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Joakingdom: I usually, wonder what is the "fair use" limit when you have the freedom to use the game as you want. For me, it sounds totally fine to play with your wife but I'm not sure about playing at the same time
This....if one had a 20 member family would it be ok(probably not morally/legally) to allow each member to have a copy from one purchased copy? I mean where would it end?

At some point people need to realize small stores need money to keep running and large groups all using one copy only cuts into the store's operating budget over time.
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GameRager: Sounds fine...but why do people(in general) ask questions as if they are trying to be swayed to one side when they already have an answer already chosen?

This is not to say I am trying to be mean, just that I could never figure that out. If one knows what one knows or thinks what one thinks then why open a "forum"(thread) to discuss it? :|
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Gobydon: Talking out loud and socializing with other is a good way to work out one own internal dilemmas. I knew the answer but it was locked away in my head. Funny how the mind works...
Fair enough....it's just when stuff like that happens it makes the users adding replies think they have a shot at influencing the outcome without knowing in advance the author already had a set answer/stance in mind from the get go.
Post edited August 08, 2019 by GameRager
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GameRager: Fair enough....it's just when stuff like that happens it makes the users adding replies think they have a shot at influencing the outcome without knowing in advance the author already had a set answer/stance in mind from the get go.
One user did say something that was profound in a way. Its was Clarry. It made me think and it was impactful. We all have syndromes and and Clarry just so happen to make me see one of mine even if just by a little bit. Kinda cool!
Post edited August 08, 2019 by Gobydon
Your family can play the game as much as they want with zero moral or legal thoughts about it, IMO.

If you back the game up to a USB drive and give it to friends though, then you're being a colossal jerk.
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StingingVelvet: Your family can play the game as much as they want with zero moral or legal thoughts about it, IMO.

If you back the game up to a USB drive and give it to friends though, then you're being a colossal jerk.
With that train of thought/logic what is the difference then between one or two other family members playing a copy of that copy and your friends playing it?

Shouldn't anyone playing at the same time/on another machine/system have to buy another copy morally speaking?
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GameRager: With that train of thought/logic what is the difference then between one or two other family members playing a copy of that copy and your friends playing it?
Your family is your... well, family, and live with you, and are considered one unit in all manner of ways. Your friend at work is not. I'm not sure what needs explaining there honestly, no offense.

I guess you could make a case for a roommate playing your GOG/Steam games, since you'd probably share a disc.
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GameRager: With that train of thought/logic what is the difference then between one or two other family members playing a copy of that copy and your friends playing it?
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StingingVelvet: Your family is your... well, family, and live with you, and are considered one unit in all manner of ways. Your friend at work is not. I'm not sure what needs explaining there honestly, no offense.

I guess you could make a case for a roommate playing your GOG/Steam games, since you'd probably share a disc.
They are still other people, though, and legally speaking they shouldn't get special treatment under the law in that regard(imo).

If the game is local co-op and they play or they play the same copy at other times then fine, but I don't see the legal/etc difference between a 15+ members family sharing one copy all at the same time over a guy giving out 12+ copies to his friends.


Real life aside: I have said here I BUY steam games and have cracks for if steam ever goes offline or closes up shop, and people have lambasted me over it or low rated such comments....yet apparently sharing one copy with a bunch of family is fine even though it "takes money from gog" through potential sales to other family members.
Post edited August 08, 2019 by GameRager
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StingingVelvet: Your family can play the game as much as they want with zero moral or legal thoughts about it, IMO.

If you back the game up to a USB drive and give it to friends though, then you're being a colossal jerk.
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GameRager: With that train of thought/logic what is the difference then between one or two other family members playing a copy of that copy and your friends playing it?

Shouldn't anyone playing at the same time/on another machine/system have to buy another copy morally speaking?
See!?. Legally wrong and morally right... what gives? I think morally right but thats's my gut feeling. Lets say your a kid and you have a brother and you both have xbox in your rooms. You might let you brother take your copy of Halo over to his room and play. You couldn't play at the same time of course but that just DRM policing the kind of abuse that would let 20 of your friends play the same copy. The two brothers are just caught in that quagmire and that really isn't why DRM is there.
Post edited August 08, 2019 by Gobydon
I think that sharing the games with the family (in the same household) and with noone else is kinda allowed\tolerated.
However, if too many people start playing every single game purchase.. that isn't ideal (like in big families).
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GameRager: With that train of thought/logic what is the difference then between one or two other family members playing a copy of that copy and your friends playing it?

Shouldn't anyone playing at the same time/on another machine/system have to buy another copy morally speaking?
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Gobydon: https://www.gog.com/upload/forum/2019/08/96b9fe2380619e3510f9840e3a42035035ff3ef8.jfif

See!?. Legally wrong and morally right... what gives? I think morally right but thats's my gut feeling. Lets say your a kid and you have a brother and you both have xbox in your rooms. You might let you brother take your copy of Halo over to his room and play. You couldn't play at the same time of course but that just DRM policing the kind of abuse that would let 20 of your friends play the same copy. The two brothers are just caught in that quagmire and that really isn't why DRM is there.
I agree people should be able to share a copy at home if they don't play two copies or more of that copy at the same time. But if they make copies from that copy and all play at once I think doing that and not buying another copy is a bit dubious.

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phaolo: I think that sharing the games with the family (in the same household) and with noone else is kinda allowed\tolerated.
However, if too many people start playing every single game purchase.. that isn't ideal (like in big families).
This....as I said before IMAGINE is someone with a 12+ members family all used the same copy at the same time instead of each person buying a copy(if they had funds to do so).....to me this is not the right thing to do in such cases.
Post edited August 08, 2019 by GameRager
Anyways, good talk y'all. My wife is done playing Ori and I'm going to bed. So won't be stepping over any moral or league grounds tonight it would seem. The world shall continue on its preordained path for the moment. I shall rest easy.
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Gobydon: Anyways, good talk y'all. My wife is done playing Ori and I'm going to bed. So won't be stepping over any moral or league grounds tonight it would seem. The world shall continue on its preordained path for the moment. I shall rest easy.
Get some rest and have fun with whatever you decide. :)
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GameRager: This....as I said before IMAGINE is someone with a 12+ members family all used the same copy at the same time instead of each person buying a copy(if they had funds to do so).....to me this is not the right thing to do in such cases.
Yeah. Btw, now that I think of it, controlling that kids\teens won't share files with friends is probably impossible, so that's another issue O_o
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GameRager: This....as I said before IMAGINE is someone with a 12+ members family all used the same copy at the same time instead of each person buying a copy(if they had funds to do so).....to me this is not the right thing to do in such cases.
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phaolo: Yeah. Btw, now that I think of it, controlling that kids\teens won't share files with friends is probably impossible, so that's another issue O_o
True, but in such cases the parents/account owners wouldn't be liable unless they knew their kids were doing it and allowed it.
Straight up, GOG has said they are fine with this. They used the example of setting a world record of servers in your basement all running the Witcher at the same time. It's perfectly ok. Just don't share out of your house, mmkay?
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GameRager: Real life aside: I have said here I BUY steam games and have cracks for if steam ever goes offline or closes up shop, and people have lambasted me over it or low rated such comments....yet apparently sharing one copy with a bunch of family is fine even though it "takes money from gog" through potential sales to other family members.
I don't have such things backed up because I trust they'll be around, unless the government takes over the internet (which coincidentally a nutjob presidential candidate proposed today). I agree though, as long as you bought the game it is 100% acceptable. Anyone giving you a hard time for that should f' off IMO.

Sharing accounts... it's really up to the person to decide where their red line is I guess. As long as you're not crazy abusing it and sharing purchases with 5 random guys from work or whatever, you're probably okay in my book. Support developers who make the games you enjoy, as best as you can, and we're square, basically.