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Every post in this thread is 'low rated'. I expect this post to be low rated within 24hrs. Is the intended message that, everyone who disagrees with the low-rater is wrong?. Or maybe she needs an apology?

I apologise. It was my fault.

Your lips are like wine and your body is like Venus and you are sexy and err... You smell nice?


Please stop low-rating everyone. You know GOG has a record of all your votes, right?

Peace.
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borisburke: Every post in this thread is 'low rated'. I expect this post to be low rated within 24hrs. Is the intended message that, everyone who disagrees with the low-rater is wrong?. Or maybe she needs an apology?

I apologise. It was my fault.

Your lips are like wine and your body is like Venus and you are sexy and err... You smell nice?

Please stop low-rating everyone. You know GOG has a record of all your votes, right?

Peace.
GOG has a record, but gog isn't doing anything about it. This has been going on for years, and it seems like someone has found something that is ultimately going to force GOG to either do something about it or show their involvement. Keep in mind that to make posts go low-rated you need to have several people or several accounts, so this is really, really traceable, and obviously political. Although i have no proof, i would not be surprised if some gog staff are involved, as well, but i couldn't even begin to tell you which ones. I am aware of who some of the people are. I've thought about joining the black pill on this one, but i'm too lazy and i don't care enough about rep. However, i've come to realize i'm probably alone on that. All the people here talking the most about rep not mattering seem to be involved.

EDIT: And like i said in an earlier post: the original poster of this thread has already admitted publicly (implicitly, though) that he's involved. I can mention him because of that.
Post edited July 25, 2021 by kohlrak
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MeowCanuck: BTW mate, running negrep scripts is a good way to ensure no one helps you in the future. I haven't negrepped anyone in a couple months yet I've noticed my other threads and its commenters being negrepped, probably getting caught in your chip on the shoulder paranoia crossfire.

Good luck resolving this.
Talk about making ASS, it is not me giving you a downvote.
And where did this notion of chip on the shoulder paranoia come from?

And just for the record, I rarely downvote, however I do hide people I find obnoxious. Not my fault if the forum software combines downvote and hide. I also don't hide anyone that doesn't well & truly deserve it, and I'm not the slightest bit interested in their responses, and honestly I don't give a rats about REP. If I did, I would create something to troll the forum and downvote every idiot here I dislike. Unlike some here though, I am not that childish.

None of my hiding is vindictive based. That would be paranoia indeed.

P.S. If I was hiding (downvoting) you and others here, I would not be responding to you. A clue that.

P.S.S. And the people I detest, know who they are, so if they come into my thread, they know exactly what to expect. I am also above board, having told those persons I will no longer see or respond to their posts. So if I haven't told someone that, I am not hiding (downvoting) them. Ask yourself, why those persons are indeed here in my thread. I am not going to see their replies and they know it, so they are purely here to be vindictive. That tells you something about the sort of person they are. So maybe you should focus on that, rather than your illusion about my paranoia.

P.S.S.S. By the way, anyone here not on my hide list, and not making ASS about me, just got positive REP from me for all their posts here, despite whether I liked or agreed with what they said, just purely as a counter measure to the childish negative REP, because I know some of them care about it. I could even give myself positive REP if I wanted to, and if things go too far I will, because going into negatives looks bad in some eyes, despite my lack of care over it. I am not someone who just uses defensive measures either. The hiding (downvoting) I do now is pretty passive, but I can change that, especially if people fear downvotes if they respond to my posts.
Post edited July 25, 2021 by Timboli
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Sarafan: Well, you could always try to contact support, because your speeds are way below expectations. But again, you're not the only one with this kind of problem. In the past I also had problems with download speeds falling down even to 1-2 MB/s with the same Internet bandwidth. I even posted a topic that covered this issue: https://www.gog.com/forum/general/whats_your_download_speed_on_gog/page1. Now it doesn't happen, so I presume GOG did upgrade its servers in the EU region. Not sure if the company has servers in Australia at all. It's possible that you're downloading from some other region.
The problem with contacting support, like I said earlier, is agenda.

It is very clear I never used to have such slow download speeds from GOG.

So it is unlikely to be a non deliberate thing. In fact, I cannot see how it can be anything other than deliberate, inaction also being a deliberate act (i.e not providing enough servers even though they know demand is higher).

At best I imagine, support are only going to recommend I use Galaxy. That would likely be their all-in-one solution, though I guess they could admit they have been slack in regard to enough servers, and promise things will eventually improve. So aside from that, I cannot see the point in contacting them.
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paladin181: Because words (and capitalization, in this case) have meanings. MB/s (or MBps) is standard for MegaBytes per second where as Mb/s (or Mbps) is Megabits or Megabauds per second. People get confused because you used the wrong terminology.

It's the same kind of terminology that ISPs use to confuse customers and why they measure everything in Mbps (because the numbers are bigger) knowing that everything actually online is measured in MBps. They do this to trick people into thinking they will get a FAR faster connection than they do.
Yep words certainly do have meaning, even abbreviations.

Can you point me to an official listing for those abbreviations?

In my experience though, many, perhaps most, use them interchangeably. So my own take is to be specific, and not just rely on the capital of one character. I guess I am not nerd enough to do that ... often a failing of mine ... I am somewhere between a Nerd and a Normal.

And yes, like you I am well aware of the tricks ISPs use, and so feel even more reason to be more specific.
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MeowCanuck: Page 72.
Thanks for that.

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MeowCanuck: Relevant. Anyway, it's to install to test one download speed in comparison to whatever you're using right now to see if there is a discrepancy. It's also very easy to do yourself instead of sitting around wondering if Galaxy users are getting preferential treatment.
I believe in proper testing, so I would need to do many Galaxy tests over different days and times, and quite simply I am not prepared to do that. And what is the point anyway? It ain't gonna resolve the issue.

I am not just sitting there wondering. I have done this protest, and it is up to GOG to improve things, so that many of us don't have to wonder. It is in their best interest to do so, unless they don't care.

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MeowCanuck: Yes, that's why you have to cross-check the conflict-of-interest data they give you with another independent source. If GOG says their servers are fine, but you and four other Aussies are getting 1 MB/s on a 5-10 MB/s ethernet connection, then something doesn't add up.
Indeed, and I am not naive mate, I am well versed in technology.

There are also many threads here about slow download speeds, with me responding in many of them to help others.

So I didn't start this thread from a position of naivety, and I have also waited many weeks just to be sure.

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MeowCanuck: Yes, but it helps with process of elimination of the source of the problem roughly. If some Aussie was getting 4 MB/s and you were getting 1 MB/s on the same ISP plan, then the source of problem is localized to you and your pathway compared to your mate. You know your variables (e.g., throttling speeds, torrenting in the background, etc.), just keep them constant.
I well and truly know all that mate. I am however, looking at the bigger picture. I've also said repeatedly, that other downloads, not from GOG, are their usual speed. So clearly ISP is not relevant ... not unless GOG are deliberately penalizing specific ISP connections.
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timppu: If you mean e.g. gogrepo, it would help to test it also e.g. with a browser (just to see it is not a gogrepo or python issue), as I recall some earlier having some speed issues with gogrepo, possibly related to their python configuration or something.
I could, but currently I am using gogcli.exe, and it was working fine speed wise for many months, and nothing has changed my end, so I fail to see the point of a browser comparison. If browser was indeed faster, then that means GOG have deliberately penalized a program using the GOG SDK. I am sure we would hear many complaints if that were so.

You may be recalling the speed issues I had with Kalanyr's fork of gogrepo.py. I never got that with the original gogrepo.py or indeed with gogcli.exe.

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timppu: If they were throttling non-Galaxy users, I presume non-Galaxy GOG users all over the world would see the problem.
Maybe. But if it is a percentage based thing it may not be readily apparent. And many here do complain about download speed, and I suspect many just stay quiet about it.

In reality, I think the issue is more server based, and hope it isn't a Galaxy bias. I don't automatically discount it though, and really I look at the bigger picture, where GOG need to do something, and so I provide some motivation.

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timppu: It would also help if you could test it somewhere else besides just your home connection (different ISP hopefully), to see whether it is an issue with your ISP.

That is why I sometimes test it at my work (because the internet is and should be super-speedy there), or alternatively with my mobile phone internet connection, instead of the cable modem (different ISP).
Well aside from not having that option, I have repeatedly said, the slow down is only with GOG downloads.

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timppu: Anyway, I consider it a possibility that GOG servers serving your area in Australia may have just become worse lately. It is possible, GOG had some other slowdowns issues lately as well, there were a couple of threads of that IIRC.
I suspect this is indeed the case.
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borisburke: Every post in this thread is 'low rated'. I expect this post to be low rated within 24hrs. Is the intended message that, everyone who disagrees with the low-rater is wrong?. Or maybe she needs an apology?

I apologise. It was my fault.

Your lips are like wine and your body is like Venus and you are sexy and err... You smell nice?

Please stop low-rating everyone. You know GOG has a record of all your votes, right?

Peace.
Quite frankly it is just childish behavior by a few.

There are a number of posters in this thread, who know I no longer see and read their posts, but they come into my thread anyway, just to cause trouble. They are not here for the right reasons, clearly, though they may present themselves otherwise, just to muddy the water. They probably also deliberately add confusion by downvoting others, and maybe trying to foster the notion, that to reply to me, is to gain a downvote. That last, shows exactly why I hide them in the first place, proves they are the obnoxious person I claim ... trolls all of them, perhaps even acting in concert now.

Maybe I should publish the list of those I hide, so that other posters will then know exactly who is downvoting them.

In my first post, I only ask one question (in bold) ... and its not like I am expecting an answer, so it was more a statement or plea to GOG, and to show my exasperation to others, but maybe also get indications from others that they are having the same experience.

Anyway, thanks for the humor, always welcome. :)

Give Peace A Chance.
Post edited July 25, 2021 by Timboli
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Timboli: Anyway, thanks for the humor, always welcome. :)
I pretty much figured you'd like humor...seeing as the topic of this thread seems like one big joke.
(also it's a repeat....there have been several threads about the slowness of DLs on GOG just in the past several months alone)

All the above aside, if you'd maybe be so kind as to keep on-topic in your own thread(and less of these diatribes about "gog users that you rightfully must block"), then that'd likely be much appreciated by everyone
Post edited July 25, 2021 by GamezRanker
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As you can see, GamezRanker has just dropped by and downvoted all my latest posts.

I suspect he is the main culprit downvoting others as well ... he is that childish and vindictive.

There are many good reasons he has so much negative REP, and barely any of that is from me. Many here in the forum absolutely hate him. Me I just don't want to read his posts anymore. He is actually a sad case and I feel sorry for him. He has a mental illness I believe, or so he claims. I have tried to tolerate him, but he kept breaking his promises and then gets vindictive and insulting. I find it better to not know what he is up to.

P.S. I don't go to his threads and downvote him, so I will let you decide who is the wrongdoer. I am entitled to ignore him if I wish, but he is clearly intent on not ignoring me, quite the opposite. That should tell you something about his character. I suspect he is taking out his angst against all the negative REP he has earned, on me. Ironic, because at least I am honest to his face, and don't downvote him in secret, and don't go looking for his posts to downvote them.
Post edited July 25, 2021 by Timboli
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timppu: It would also help if you could test it somewhere else besides just your home connection (different ISP hopefully), to see whether it is an issue with your ISP.

That is why I sometimes test it at my work (because the internet is and should be super-speedy there), or alternatively with my mobile phone internet connection, instead of the cable modem (different ISP).
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Timboli: Well aside from not having that option, I have repeatedly said, the slow down is only with GOG downloads.
But if you are comparing it to big well-known services like Steam or Netflix etc., it would be to check that the particular ISP is not giving e.g. preference to those bigger players.

I recall that at least earlier e.g. Netflix specifically made special deals and arrangements with certain bigger ISPs all over the world that those ISPs would basically cache often-used Netflix data, which would speed up "internet" for Netflix users of those ISPs. Similarly, I wouldn't be surprised that some ISPs give preference to e.g. Steam because they know so many people use and require it, while not giving similar preference to some unknown GOG (without Galaxy), but treats it in slower tier like all unknown download web sites or whatever.

Or then they don't, but you never know. Anyway, I think it is still the most probable explanation that GOG download server coverage at least for your part of Australia may have just become worse or more congested, for a reason or another.
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timppu: But if you are comparing it to big well-known services like Steam or Netflix etc., it would be to check that the particular ISP is not giving e.g. preference to those bigger players.

I recall that at least earlier e.g. Netflix specifically made special deals and arrangements with certain bigger ISPs all over the world that those ISPs would basically cache often-used Netflix data, which would speed up "internet" for Netflix users of those ISPs. Similarly, I wouldn't be surprised that some ISPs give preference to e.g. Steam because they know so many people use and require it, while not giving similar preference to some unknown GOG (without Galaxy), but treats it in slower tier like all unknown download web sites or whatever.

Or then they don't, but you never know. Anyway, I think it is still the most probable explanation that GOG download server coverage at least for your part of Australia may have just become worse or more congested, for a reason or another.
Can't disagree with any of that.

But in my case, I also download from other sites.

For example. Just last night, not long before downloading my latest purchase from GOG, I downloaded a 3 GB game file from IndieGala, and it came down at speeds ranging from 4 to 5 Mb/s, even topping out at 5.1 a few times.

When I downloaded the 14 Gb game from GOG, it started off not too bad at just over 3 Mb/s, but soon slowed down to around 2.7 Mb/s and less. That was probably my best download session with GOG in many weeks. Alas, I now have the single 14 GB Linux file to download.
Post edited July 25, 2021 by Timboli
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Before migrating from gogrepo.py to gogcli.exe, I was in the habit of downloading very large files using Free Download Manager 5. And because gogcli.exe was reliable, I never saw the need to do otherwise.

I did that primarily because FDM5 is multi-thread and has resume, and so a safer bet with very large files.

Anyway, for those very reasons and because of the slow downloading, and because it was just one file, I decided to use FDM5 again.

The 13.9 GB Linux file took under an hour I am guessing, with quite reasonable speeds. That's multi-thread for you.

I then used the validate option in my GOGcli GUI program to validate the file's integrity (MD5).

Of course I had to forgo all the automation I have been used to, but at least I got the file downloaded and checked in a reasonably quick fashion.

Not being someone who likes to give up too easily, it occurs to me (a thought I have had before), that I might be able to incorporate use of FDM5 in GOGcli GUI. That idea is certainly something in the current circumstances, that could do with looking into. The aim of course is automation and minimum click downloading & verification.
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Timboli: As you can see, GamezRanker has just dropped by and downvoted all my latest posts.

I suspect he is the main culprit downvoting others as well ... he is that childish and vindictive.

There are many good reasons he has so much negative REP, and barely any of that is from me. Many here in the forum absolutely hate him. Me I just don't want to read his posts anymore. He is actually a sad case and I feel sorry for him. He has a mental illness I believe, or so he claims. I have tried to tolerate him, but he kept breaking his promises and then gets vindictive and insulting. I find it better to not know what he is up to.

P.S. I don't go to his threads and downvote him, so I will let you decide who is the wrongdoer. I am entitled to ignore him if I wish, but he is clearly intent on not ignoring me, quite the opposite. That should tell you something about his character. I suspect he is taking out his angst against all the negative REP he has earned, on me. Ironic, because at least I am honest to his face, and don't downvote him in secret, and don't go looking for his posts to downvote them.
Might I add, for anyone curious enough, remember that the person i'm quoting has implicitly admitted that he has put me on a downvote script. I think the mask here is slipping. I don't say this 'cause i need to point this out constantly, but this projection onto GamezRanker without even having the courtesy to reply to him to notify him of this accusation. Notice, he can't resist responding to GamezRanker, but has yet to respond to what I have to say. The reason has less to do with me and more to do with the fact these two apparently have a history. I wouldn't be surprised if he's not clicking the Unhide button on my posts, but he's been trying to make a harassment case on GamezRanker for a good long while, now. I'm sure if GOG staff were to actually figure out how to look at voting history they'd find a rather interesting picture, indeed.

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Timboli: Well aside from not having that option, I have repeatedly said, the slow down is only with GOG downloads.
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timppu: But if you are comparing it to big well-known services like Steam or Netflix etc., it would be to check that the particular ISP is not giving e.g. preference to those bigger players.

I recall that at least earlier e.g. Netflix specifically made special deals and arrangements with certain bigger ISPs all over the world that those ISPs would basically cache often-used Netflix data, which would speed up "internet" for Netflix users of those ISPs. Similarly, I wouldn't be surprised that some ISPs give preference to e.g. Steam because they know so many people use and require it, while not giving similar preference to some unknown GOG (without Galaxy), but treats it in slower tier like all unknown download web sites or whatever.

Or then they don't, but you never know. Anyway, I think it is still the most probable explanation that GOG download server coverage at least for your part of Australia may have just become worse or more congested, for a reason or another.
I'm more inclined to believe he's either making it up or GOG throttled him for overuse of gogrepo (using it too much can really impact their limited bandwidth). Unless you've experienced the same thing, his claims aren't that strong, but i think you know that already. He seems to have certainty on all factors other than GOG being innocent, which i heard happens every so often, where he goes on rampages either for gog or against gog and once his mind is made up, he won't change it no matter what evidence you present to him. However, that's just what i hear, but it's also what i see demonstrated in this thread, too. Might i re-iterate, that I don't believe he genuinely cares about this, either, 'cause, gogcli is most likely being used on another computer, so he has to then transfer it again.
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Okay, it seems I can now hide without downvoting. I was not aware that was possible, to separate the actions.

Apparently I can even have a post zapped so I don't even know it exists.

Anyway, that last could be abused if known, so as welcome as it would be, I find it better to at least know a post has occurred.

So no more downvoting from me, just hiding. And only hiding those who have been obnoxious ... those who insult and behave like a bully, some of them even playing boy psychologist with their overlarge ego and sense of cleverness.

So a compromise, not that I expect it will change their behavior.

They can downvote me into oblivion and I don't care, and if I really did care I can do something about it. What I do care about, on their behalf, is those who cop a downvote as part of collateral damage in the war against me ... hopefully at least, that will go away. But if needed though I can still counter that by doing upvoting.

If I do see evidence of a compromise working, then I will go back and remove my downvotes where reasonable. I am not gonna troll the forum though, to find them all. So certainly I would do that in this thread at least ... in fact, because I am the good guy, I have now done that proactively already, whatever happens. EDITED

Wish me luck.

P.S. I never have and never will, downvote someone just because I disagree with them. It always required obnoxious behavior to have occurred. I am about hiding not downvoting in any case.
Post edited July 27, 2021 by Timboli