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Posted February 12, 2021
What the Big 20H2 update broke was apps like those MIDI related programs like VirtualMidiSynth or Munt. Something was changed in how Windows messed with its Midi Synth and those apps stopped working fine until the develpers fixed them later.

Aside that kind of things the game breaking power of the update was the same as before, what was broken in Windows 10 was broken in 20H2 as well, and relatively old games needed workarounds and wrappers. At least it is my experience.
Posted February 14, 2021
Thanks to everyone for their responses. Based on the feedback it sounds like the 20H2 is not a very risky update. So I opted to apply it. No problems so far.

Thanks!
Posted February 14, 2021
So far so good on my end. Everything seems to run ok.
Posted February 14, 2021
I have been 20H2 (with all the patches that Windows Update offers me) for a while now and its run every game I have tried including games that rely on D3D8 and D3D9. (Command & Conquer Renegade for example is d3d8 and runs just fine)
Posted February 14, 2021
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craig_s_russell: Has anyone installed the Windows 10 version 20H2 update? If so, have you had any issues with it breaking games, especially older games?

I know Microsoft in typical fashion will ultimately force the update, but for now it's optional. So I'd like to postpone as long as possible until it can be verified it doesn't break most of my games.

Thanks,
Craig
Uhm, let me see....

Diablo II - works.
Prince of Persia 3D/Sands of Time/Warrior Within/Two Thrones/2008: working.
Diablo III - works.
Street Fighter IV - works.
Control Ultimate Edition - works.

Etc. etc. etc., you get the point ;-)

P.S. I have NEVER installed new Windows 10 versions if I didn't want to do so...

https://www.sordum.org/9470/windows-update-blocker-v1-6/
Post edited February 14, 2021 by KingofGnG
Posted February 14, 2021
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Gudadantza: What the Big 20H2 update broke was apps like those MIDI related programs like VirtualMidiSynth or Munt.
Aaargh!
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Gudadantza: Something was changed in how Windows messed with its Midi Synth and those apps stopped working fine until the develpers fixed them later.
Phew...
Posted February 14, 2021
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craig_s_russell: Has anyone installed the Windows 10 version 20H2 update? If so, have you had any issues with it breaking games, especially older games?

I know Microsoft in typical fashion will ultimately force the update, but for now it's optional. So I'd like to postpone as long as possible until it can be verified it doesn't break most of my games.

Thanks,
Craig
I'm running 20H2 19042.804 and i have 100's of games and just ran though everything from dosbox, 95, 98, directX 9 10 11 and 12 and they all work fine... and all direct draw games also work fine.

Dx9 still installs without issue so its really not a problem, just archive it... and if its needed GOG will combine with their installers and galaxy.
Posted February 14, 2021
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Gudadantza: What the Big 20H2 update broke was apps like those MIDI related programs like VirtualMidiSynth or Munt.
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timppu: Aaargh!
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Gudadantza: Something was changed in how Windows messed with its Midi Synth and those apps stopped working fine until the develpers fixed them later.
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timppu: Phew...
A little of suspense use to be good to have a healthy and strong hearth :D
Posted February 14, 2021
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Martek: ...

Stalker Call of Pripyat: Only loads up one time. If I save and quit (or, well, just quit - the save has nothing to do with it), it won't load up again until I reboot the PC - then it's again good for one single time (rinse and repeat). Oddly enough, the stand-along Doctor X Call of the Zone, works fine and will load up again and again without the required reboot.
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Judicat0r: That mod is based upon Call of Chernobyl engine which uses an iteration of Open X-Ray instead of the original X-ray engine.
Whoops - just caught your post.

Okay, so I knew that - but unfortunately I don't know how to apply it as a fix to my exact situation.

I can, and previously have, updated the vanilla CoP to OpenXray - seems to work fine. Based on your post reminding me about it - I dl'd the current versions (Dec. 2020 both the "Players" version and the "Modders" version). Again, seem to work fine.

But here's the problem: I'm not wanting to play "vanilla". I'm trying to play any one of the several version of the SGM mod ( as found here [in case you aren't familiar with it]: SIGEROUS (SGM) ).

I can't get OpenXray to work with SGM. It might seem some "merging" or something similar that is beyond my ability. Can't find anything on the internet on getting it to work.

Anyways, thanks for the pointer - it reminded me about OpenXray and so I tried the latest version; and it might help someone else as well..
Posted February 14, 2021
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craig_s_russell: Has anyone installed the Windows 10 version 20H2 update? If so, have you had any issues with it breaking games, especially older games?

I know Microsoft in typical fashion will ultimately force the update, but for now it's optional. So I'd like to postpone as long as possible until it can be verified it doesn't break most of my games.

Thanks,
Craig
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KingofGnG: Uhm, let me see....

Diablo II - works.
Prince of Persia 3D/Sands of Time/Warrior Within/Two Thrones/2008: working.
Diablo III - works.
Street Fighter IV - works.
Control Ultimate Edition - works.

Etc. etc. etc., you get the point ;-)

P.S. I have NEVER installed new Windows 10 versions if I didn't want to do so...

https://www.sordum.org/9470/windows-update-blocker-v1-6/
Oh, this is very useful!!!
Posted February 15, 2021
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Judicat0r: That mod is based upon Call of Chernobyl engine which uses an iteration of Open X-Ray instead of the original X-ray engine.
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Martek: Whoops - just caught your post.

Okay, so I knew that - but unfortunately I don't know how to apply it as a fix to my exact situation.

I can, and previously have, updated the vanilla CoP to OpenXray - seems to work fine. Based on your post reminding me about it - I dl'd the current versions (Dec. 2020 both the "Players" version and the "Modders" version). Again, seem to work fine.

But here's the problem: I'm not wanting to play "vanilla". I'm trying to play any one of the several version of the SGM mod ( as found here [in case you aren't familiar with it]: SIGEROUS (SGM) ).

I can't get OpenXray to work with SGM. It might seem some "merging" or something similar that is beyond my ability. Can't find anything on the internet on getting it to work.

Anyways, thanks for the pointer - it reminded me about OpenXray and so I tried the latest version; and it might help someone else as well..
I have no experience with modding S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and I definitely don't know Open-Xray so I can't help you, furthermore I think that the mod needs to be ported to the new engine.

I know the author from the GSC forum back when I was there, he used to be active and always very helpful, you may try there, there are mod discussion and mod download sub sections in the COP forum, or you mayask in the MODDB comment section about it.
Posted February 15, 2021
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Gudadantza: A little of suspense use to be good to have a healthy and strong hearth :D
It is just that those two particular utilities (VirtualMIDISynth and Munt) are very important to me for enjoying old DOSBox games, so I've been kinda fearing the day they stop working, e.g. MS just decides that the whole MIDI thingie in Windows is completely irrelevant nowadays.

Which reminds me, is it somehow possible to achieve that same that those two pieces of code do, also on Linux? You can obviously run DOSBox, but can you

a) get emulated Roland MT-32/CM-32L music with the DOSBox games, like you can with Munt?

b) get better General MIDI music by using replacement soundfonts, which you can do with VirtualMIDISynth?

EDIT: Well, at least a) seems to be possible:

http://www.marshalltradecorp.com/coDe/old-game-info/linux-roland-mt32-munt-and-dosbox.html

EDIT: And maybe b) too:

http://timidity.sourceforge.net/#info

I need to try these out in Linux...
Post edited February 15, 2021 by timppu
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