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Posted May 27, 2021
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idbeholdME: Are we assuming 64 or 32 bit Windows 7?
64 bit. I´ll update the OP to make it clear.
Posted May 27, 2021
Has there been any work on fixing the visual C/C++ issues? I've had one DLL in particular that seems to get cited every time a game won't run. I'm guessing other than the Direct X stuff some of these issues could theoretically be addressed.
Posted May 28, 2021
Thank you Oddeus for this thread!

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Some Win10 only games, I've tested:
Little Nightmares II - demo doesn't run on win7
The Riftbreaker - demo doesn't run on win7
Post edited May 28, 2021 by russellskanne
Posted May 28, 2021
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russellskanne: Thank you Oddeus for this thread!

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Some Win10 only games, I've tested:
Little Nightmares II - demo doesn't run on win7
The Riftbreaker - demo doesn't run on win7
The system requirements for a demo shouldn't be different from the full game - but it's possible that it is...
Posted May 28, 2021
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russellskanne: Thank you Oddeus for this thread!

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Some Win10 only games, I've tested:
Little Nightmares II - demo doesn't run on win7
The Riftbreaker - demo doesn't run on win7
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teceem: The system requirements for a demo shouldn't be different from the full game - but it's possible that it is...
I recently bought a game where this was the case. The demo only covered the first level, and the second level was... busy... and it was full of bees... And the second half of it gave me some major FPS issues.

EDIT: oh, and games might have updates that change the requirements, too, while updates often don't make it to the demos. This is particularly important for games that run via things like unity, gamemaker, etc.
Post edited May 28, 2021 by kohlrak
Posted May 28, 2021
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teceem: Little Nightmares II - demo doesn't run on win7
The Riftbreaker - demo doesn't run on win7
Added, and posted a fix for Little Nightmares 2.
Posted June 26, 2021
A relative of mine was playing Embracelet on W7 yesterday, and it works fine despite the misleading "needs W10" claim.
Posted June 26, 2021
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Just to add to this (awesome) thread, I can confirm that Wasteland Remastered works on Windows 7.
Posted June 26, 2021
@BrianSim and JakobFel, thanks guys, I´ll add them to the list.
Posted June 26, 2021
i do nearly all of my gaming on my windows 7 PC. i dont really think DX12 gives you any benefits over DX11 by default.
Posted July 04, 2021
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timppu: Wasn't the upgrade (from Windows 7 or 8 to 10) free for pretty much everyone? At least it was for me, I am eligible even for the (free) Windows 10 Pro version for this old laptop where I use Windows 7 and Linux Mint side by side instead. :) I also recall activating the free Windows 10 on several of my friends' Windows 7 or 8 PCs as well.
The hardware died and new retail computers are not available to purchase with an obsolete OS. (Actually, by the time the entry-level PC dies almost all the components are obsolete, too, even if the motherboard still works, certainly the peripherals make upgrading the motherboard necessary.) I suppose I could buy a PC without an OS, but that would require more effort configuring than I have to give to this sort of haberdashery.

I still have pristine copies of WinXP and Win7 (still in shrinkwrap) which I am planning to deploy (at some point) as multi-boot partitions for older games that hate Windoze 10.
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timppu: Also as far as I've understood, just installing Windows 10 (with e.g. the MS Media Creation Tool) and never activating it doesn't really block you from any important features or functionality, mainly just some "can't change the wallpaper" kind of cosmetic stuff. And it doesn't even nag that much, just keeping some watermark on the wallpaper that Windows is not activated.

Whether it will also stay that way forever, who knows. Maybe MS cares less nowadays about the money it gets from license sales of Windows 10 Home, as long as as many users as possible are using it. Maybe there is a bit of push also because there are free alternatives too, like Linux, or how Google doesn't charge for Android (I think?).

Maybe MS has already decided that Azure is their future bread and butter anyway, for the most part.
I don't know about others but one of my main gripes with Win10 is the touch-screen interface. I don't have a touch screen; I don't want a touch screen; I use keyboard commands (much quicker and easier to memorize and more reliable instruction to the device) whereas Win10 is built around poking the viewing area with oversized pointing implements (multiple fingers or a separate stylus) that make fine motor skills optional.

As for Azure I think you are correct. (We should give them an award for tautology, since they have "Available regions", as distinct from "Availability Zones available" and those that have only been "announced".)

I notice the latest smart televisions have Android OS installed. I can't wait until my tv tells me I am not authorized to use it. /sarcasm ;P

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Post edited July 04, 2021 by scientiae
Posted July 04, 2021
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timppu: Wasn't the upgrade (from Windows 7 or 8 to 10) free for pretty much everyone? At least it was for me, I am eligible even for the (free) Windows 10 Pro version for this old laptop where I use Windows 7 and Linux Mint side by side instead. :) I also recall activating the free Windows 10 on several of my friends' Windows 7 or 8 PCs as well.
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scientiae: The hardware died and new retail computers are not available to purchase with an obsolete OS. (Actually, by the time the entry-level PC dies almost all the components are obsolete, too, even if the motherboard still works, certainly the peripherals make upgrading the motherboard necessary.) I suppose I could buy a PC without an OS, but that would require more effort configuring than I have to give to this sort of haberdashery.

I still have pristine copies of WinXP and Win7 (still in shrinkwrap) which I am planning to deploy (at some point) as multi-boot partitions for older games that hate Windoze 10.
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timppu: Also as far as I've understood, just installing Windows 10 (with e.g. the MS Media Creation Tool) and never activating it doesn't really block you from any important features or functionality, mainly just some "can't change the wallpaper" kind of cosmetic stuff. And it doesn't even nag that much, just keeping some watermark on the wallpaper that Windows is not activated.

Whether it will also stay that way forever, who knows. Maybe MS cares less nowadays about the money it gets from license sales of Windows 10 Home, as long as as many users as possible are using it. Maybe there is a bit of push also because there are free alternatives too, like Linux, or how Google doesn't charge for Android (I think?).

Maybe MS has already decided that Azure is their future bread and butter anyway, for the most part.
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scientiae: I don't know about others but one of my main gripes with Win10 is the touch-screen interface. I don't have a touch screen; I don't want a touch screen; I use keyboard commands (much quicker and easier to memorize and more reliable instruction to the device) whereas Win10 is built around poking the viewing area with oversized pointing implements (multiple fingers or a separate stylus) that make fine motor skills optional.

As for Azure I think you are correct. (We should give them an award for tautology, since they have "Available regions", as distinct from "Availability Zones available" and those that have only been "announced".)

I notice the latest smart televisions have Android OS installed. I can't wait until my tv tells me I am not authorized to use it. /sarcasm ;P

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What are these mythological “ older games that hate Windoze 10.”, as I have not found any that do not work with win 10, with patches, tweaking etc. You need to do any any platform.

If you don’t like the interface of win 10, use openshell. I have not had any issue with using keyboard and mouse with win 10.

Not saying win 10 is without issues, and if you are not on pro then you will have far more issues, but mostly it’s no different to win 7 once you install a few things, and has very little compatibility issues outside admirably not supporting old drm systems.
Posted July 04, 2021
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nightcraw1er.488: What are these mythological “ older games that hate Windoze 10.”, as I have not found any that do not work with win 10, with patches, tweaking etc. You need to do any any platform.
There are several games which "have issues" with W10. Eg, some older Adventure Games Studio engine games such as 5 Days A Stranger appears squashed in the left half of the screen with a weird purple tint. Using dgvoodoo2, etc, fixes that problem but introduces a weird abnormally long delay when loading / saving and mouse cursor lag. Either way doesn't work as well as under W7. Likewise, The Swapper had to receive updates because W10 broke the mouse cursor (gets stuck in top-left corner, as also happened with Amnesia: Dark Descent that went unpatched for months) whilst the game continues to run fine in W7. NOLF had weird stutter for a while until a new community patch was issued. It's great the devs eventually fixed it for these games, but not so great for other older games whose devs have long ceased development. So yes, there are absolutely older games that work a lot worse / are broken under W10 than W7, eg, due to changes made in DWM from W8 onwards.

In any case though I think the whole point of this thread for why the OP created it is for W7 users to find out what the actual min requirements to run 2020-2021 games are (since GOG have stopped listing that in favour of just writing W10 in both "minimum" and "recommended" whether it's actually needed or not) rather than W10 users who have no interest in the usefulness of the list drive it off topic with W10 vs W7 arguments when they could use one of the 500 other such threads on the subject.
Post edited July 04, 2021 by AB2012
Posted July 04, 2021
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AB2012: In any case though I think the whole point of this thread for why the OP created it is for W7 users to find out what the actual min requirements to run 2020-2021 games are (since GOG have stopped listing that in favour of just writing W10 in both "minimum" and "recommended" whether it's actually needed or not) rather than W10 users who have no interest in the usefulness of the list drive it off topic with W10 vs W7 arguments when they could one of the 500 other such threads on the subject.
Exactly. Thanks for clarifying :)
Posted July 04, 2021
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Battlefleet Gothic Armada works in Windows 7, if you do what Jagantoe suggests here:

https://www.gog.com/forum/battlefleet_gothic_armada_series/battlefleet_gothic_armada_do_not_start/post35

The sequel works without having to do anything special. Go figure.
Post edited July 04, 2021 by DoomSooth
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