If its the space...those files use up very little space. If it's due to possible security threats....I don't think the file does anything without galaxy. If it's the mere thought of a galaxy file being on one's system.....eh, that shouldn't be a big deal(imo).

If the file stops working with some systems gog will likely fix it or some will likely find "ways" to fix it themselves.

As for the rest: Dunno what to tell ya.....either buy or don't buy...those are your choices.
(Unless you buy controlling shares in gog or similar)

That still somewhat disproves your words before that NO GAMES have extras here lately.

Also extras are listed on the store pages....why did you buy the games if you knew that they had little to no extras?

Proof on these things, if you could.....it is, after all, up to the one making claims to provide proof.

(Except the MP thing.....I know about MP gameplay needing galaxy, if that's what you meant)

Their products their rules....as I said before about gog games in general: Either buy or don't buy.

It's less defending and more trying to poke apart the problems when false claims or stretched truths are posted.

Also yes others here also post their concerns about some things, but they usually are reasonable about it and less overly mistrustful about some things.

Cool dude. Enjoy caring.


This kind of fear mongering paranoia helps no one. Some .dll files that are completely inert and pointless if you don't have Galaxy installed are not a "requirement," nor are they anything close to DRM. GOG have specifically said multiple times that separate installers aren't going anywhere, and all you guys have to oppose that is suspicions and assumptions. If it ever happens I'll be right there complaining with you, but I have no reason to think it will.

I pity people like you who always feel above all others that do not share their exclusive opinion. Your only action, if you have no valid arguments is to ridicule the other person. Hope you feel all well in your tower of self-righteousness.

At no point did I say they were drm. They are however required as dungeon keeper for instance will not start without that file present. That is a requirement that was not there before and produces a risk for the product not working in the future. That is not fearmongering, it is simple fact. The game which worked fine without it now does not. The installer is larger, which if you don’t download or have many games may not be an issue. For me I have to buy at least 20tb each back, storage is a big concern.

And I roll my eyes at people who immediately get upset and claim "self-righteousness" from those who disagree with them. All I said was most people don't care, but if you do then enjoy worrying about it. I never said anything about you being lesser or stupid or even wrong. Just that you care about something the vast majority don't.

It's especially funny tp be lectured on condescension from people with strict definitions of what DRM is and no patience for those who disagree. Pot meet kettle.

Hey mate, haven't seen you around in a long time.

I haven't stopped buying games here, but it's sometimes frustrating that GOG has lost an edge vs steam. Still, I focus mainly on DRM free games, especially since I don't have any idea when I actually get to play most of them.

Yeah, I migrated out and barely come back to the site any more. I only entered the thread because I saw your name there, to be honest. I do most of my shopping in Humble these days, I keep the monthly subscription on an off and buy with the extra discount when I'm subscribed. If you're lucky, you get both DRM and steam copies of games, and then redeem then on GOG via connect for extra bonus.

Not to say I don't buy here at all, but it's rare. I'm actually sitting on a big cart right now, from the holiday sale, but I'm very hesitant to pull the trigger. I keep thinking that the indies will be cheaper in the next humble sales or that I don't really need to pay 5€ to re-buy a game I already own in steam just to get the DRM-free installer. These thoughts never really bothered me a few years back, but nowadays it's rare for me to go ahead with a purchase here.

No other store pushes DRM free like GOG does, that's for sure. Whatever issues people might have with them pushing Galaxy or whatever, there's still literally nowhere else to go if that's your priority.

Well, I just don't exclusively care about DRM free. There were many things I loved about the GOG a few years back: price points, complete editions, regional pricing, curation, installer packaging, the staff and the community itself...

As those things get eroded I find myself caring less and less for this place. I still care enough to consider rebuying games I own elsewhere when they get released here, but not enough to do it without thinking like I used to, and I end up spending far less money here than I used all those years ago.

I don't know how hard it would realistically be to add a LAN option to the Galaxy API; but I would have liked to see that happen. I'd rather not have to worry about researching if a game sold here is behind on updates or has content elsewhere not available here for whatever reason. I'm not going to make a ruckus, demand things remain the way I like them or pass blame around. It's just that my excitement for this place cooled, and I went from believing it was an amazing place I'd talk about to my friends to just another store that happens to have DRM free games. And as such, I didn't care enough for it and I quietly faded away.

Indeed, if after DRM first and foremost, then GOG rules. So far I haven't been 'pushed' into using Galaxy, it's used only when I want to. Same cannot be said about the Steam client of course, even with workarounds.

When it comes to getting new stuff or getting the digital version of the games I already physically own, for me it's GOG and only. Albeit reluctantly, still occasionally buy stuff on Steam, but only 'small titles' that show a big price difference between there and here. For example, at the moment Whispers of a Machine which peaked my interest is almost half price over there, and when you've multiple 'treated' yourself, you kinda do the maths.Then you think of regular giveaways (today's it's Tower of Time) and sales here and so tell yourself to just wait a while and get it here eventually. Decisions decisions...;-)

It's whatever works best for you and what you want. GOG of course is not without its downsides, especially when it comes to updates not always making their way here (some don't) but that is due to publishers dragging their feet or making some 'executive' decisions that Steam here gets priority. When it comes to contents, as long as here too there is a choice which edition you want to get, fine by me. Where I'd really get pissed of is if achievements (those not in-game built but dependent on using a client) started ending up only in special or whatever editions, not to mention manuals. Manuals when they exist are essentials, no extras. Incidentally, haven't looked too much into the new Galaxy version, but it may have more to offer to you that the previous one, so could be worth you looking into its thread here.

I came to GOG for old games working well on new systems and client-free installers without the fuss. As long as those two things are still true here, I'll always choose GOG over the alternatives.

It does suck that the community seems to have gone to hell and the store is flooded with indie garbage, but it's still better than any alternative.

Also bad, imo, are people who virtue signal so much they could outshine times square. ;|

It is a tad fearmongering in that you are subtly/indirectly suggesting it will happen to more and more games AND there will be nothing done to fix it or that can be done to fix it if it happens.

Also those DLLs use what...less than a MB or two for multiple copies? I'd think the bigger concern would be the newer games that get frequent updates to change minor things.

Nothing is for everyone. Old GOG just so happened to push almost every single button of mine, now it no longer does. Mind you, I do actually have Galaxy installed, because I switch desktop and laptop often and I do care about cloud saves (even if the "universal" saves are all but universal). But overall, GOG does far less for me now than it used to, so I just buy less over here.

Ugh, trying to remember how to work the clunky interface to double quote is a pain.

I actually don't mind indies myself and play many of them, but I don't like having to track their updates and such. I'd rather get them 3 years after release with everything, save the installer on my hard drive and be done with that. But while I used to care about every single game being released, and dreamed about getting all of them eventually, now I just ignore the homepage unless it's something I already know, be it old (like submarine titans) or new.

Problem being, there's no way I'd now a new indie since I don't follow sites or people to get recomendations from, my main recomendation input used to be "games good enough they managed to get a GOG release". When that number grew too big, it basically dropped to only things a friend would personally recommend, and for random new stuff to try I have humble monthly.

As Flyingfluffypiglet was saying, it's all about what works best for you and what store comes closer to what you need. Steam still crashes just by launching some old games, happened to me this week.

Anyway, this has been enough nostalgia for today. Hope your hand is doing better. And Blotunga, if you (&company) ever decide to drop by here, do let me know. I'm not doing the cider houses anymore, but we can still grab a beer or three.

GOG is terrible, let's all die