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tomhoffa: I forgot to mention what i didnot like about physical copies.
how some of my games and music CD's mysteriously disappeard!?! Hmmmm...strange
How?
a. You're living in the Twilight Zone.
b: Your friends and/or visitors are thieves.
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tomhoffa: I forgot to mention what i didnot like about physical copies.
how some of my games and music CD's mysteriously disappeard!?! Hmmmm...strange
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teceem: How?
a. You're living in the Twilight Zone.
b: Your friends and/or visitors are thieves.
well obviously the later, no doubt lol
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teceem: How?
a. You're living in the Twilight Zone.
b: Your friends and/or visitors are thieves.
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tomhoffa: well obviously the later, no doubt lol
Obviously? How would I know? Do you see a portal-like appearance in your living room? Have you ever wondered if encountering time and/or dimension travellers is normal/regular?
Post edited May 15, 2021 by teceem
Ultima 6 had a real moonstone and maps, Infocom adventures had - stuff. Sometimes even copy protection was awesome. Looking at you, Shadow of the Comet. Best box ever was Knights of the Crystallion, which came with a music cassette and a poetry booklet! Those were the days...

Yeah, I miss those days. I just don't miss paying through the nose for this stuff.
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dogwhelk: Sometimes even copy protection was awesome.
Sure, and some diseases are also cool to have! Please elaborate why a copy protection is more awesome than none at all?
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dogwhelk: Sometimes even copy protection was awesome.
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teceem: Sure, and some diseases are also cool to have! Please elaborate why a copy protection is more awesome than none at all?
so those who dont buy cant steal it
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teceem: Sure, and some diseases are also cool to have! Please elaborate why a copy protection is more awesome than none at all?
Shadow of the Comet had a graphoscope with a star map. Great immersive idea considering the game's setting. Mischievous gamers would not have found it difficult to copy.

I also fondly remember Zak McKracken's copy of the National Inquisitor.

Oh, and Leather Goddesses of Phobos' scrath and sniff card ... stuff of legends.
I can sometimes miss the entire process of going to a store, roaming through all the PC games and reading the PR speak at the back of the box, picking a one or a few and then taking it home to install and then finally to play (after patching). Once you made it to the main menu it felt earned when you actually played it.

Looking at the boxes can be nice but mostly I don't miss it. I've always focused most on the content of books, music, movies, and games. I'm happy with a cheap paperback version of a great novel or just an ebook and buying the expensive hardback edition with the glowing cover doesn't add anything for me.

Preservation IS an issue but none of my VHS tapes or cassette tapes have survived the test of time and neither the players needed to play those formats. You can't step into the same river twice because everything changes. I try to preserve what I can of popular media but if I lose access to a game or movie then I can survive without it.

That's the transitory nature of everything.
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jepsen1977: I can sometimes miss the entire process of going to a store, roaming through all the PC games and reading the PR speak at the back of the box, picking a one or a few and then taking it home to install and then finally to play (after patching). Once you made it to the main menu it felt earned when you actually played it.

Looking at the boxes can be nice but mostly I don't miss it. I've always focused most on the content of books, music, movies, and games. I'm happy with a cheap paperback version of a great novel or just an ebook and buying the expensive hardback edition with the glowing cover doesn't add anything for me.

Preservation IS an issue but none of my VHS tapes or cassette tapes have survived the test of time and neither the players needed to play those formats. You can't step into the same river twice because everything changes. I try to preserve what I can of popular media but if I lose access to a game or movie then I can survive without it.

That's the transitory nature of everything.
exactly
thats why trying to live in the past is wrong
everything is changing,everything dies eventually even games
nothing is wrong with that , just enjoy the present and make better future
Not anymrore, because the boxes take up way too much space.
I also don't miss handling discs and cards, ... and the hassle of dealing with faulty ones.
No, I prefer a digital product.

Howver I do miss all the extras you could sometimes get: a crafted manual that inspires you, maps, posters, figurines and other trinkets, etc.
I think there's a vanity thing with having bookshelves full of games/books for people to see (so people think you're intelligent/cool) when in your apartment/house, regardless of whether you've even played or read everything on your shelves. Reminds me of all those midwit pseudo-intellectuals on youtube who record their videos with bookshelves full of "good" novels in the background so people will think they're so intelligent.
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Crosmando: I think there's a vanity thing with having bookshelves full of games/books for people to see (so people think you're intelligent/cool) when in your apartment/house, regardless of whether you've even played or read everything on your shelves. Reminds me of all those midwit pseudo-intellectuals on youtube who record their videos with bookshelves full of "good" novels in the background so people will think they're so intelligent.
that is for iphone pozers just to show up
and most of those game shelves look so bad, they look more lame than cool
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Crosmando: I think there's a vanity thing with having bookshelves full of games/books for people to see (so people think you're intelligent/cool) when in your apartment/house, regardless of whether you've even played or read everything on your shelves. Reminds me of all those midwit pseudo-intellectuals on youtube who record their videos with bookshelves full of "good" novels in the background so people will think they're so intelligent.
That might be true of some, but debatable.

Where do you keep such boxes, if not on a shelf .... buried away somewhere perhaps?
There can be many reasons to leave them out on display ... admire artwork, initiate discussions, show an aspect of yourself that others may have no inkling of, make the most of the money you've spent, ease of access, etc.

Personally I love the look of filled bookshelves, even more than artwork. They give character and a homely feel, and a sense of achievement and richness. In some ways they are like a diary.

That said, many of my bookshelves are hidden behind other things (couches, etc) and many shelves are two or more layers deep with books or other media.

Like most, I don't post images or videos of myself, and these days I predominantly collect digital media which only appear on virtual bookshelves ... if even that. All about convenience and lack of space and the desire for less clutter.

But for those who do post such things online, surely it is only natural that the background would have such bookcases in many cases.
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Crosmando: I think there's a vanity thing with having bookshelves full of games/books for people to see (so people think you're intelligent/cool) when in your apartment/house, regardless of whether you've even played or read everything on your shelves. Reminds me of all those midwit pseudo-intellectuals on youtube who record their videos with bookshelves full of "good" novels in the background so people will think they're so intelligent.
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Timboli: That might be true of some, but debatable.

Where do you keep such boxes, if not on a shelf .... buried away somewhere perhaps?
There can be many reasons to leave them out on display ... admire artwork, initiate discussions, show an aspect of yourself that others may have no inkling of, make the most of the money you've spent, ease of access, etc.

Personally I love the look of filled bookshelves, even more than artwork. They give character and a homely feel, and a sense of achievement and richness. In some ways they are like a diary.

That said, many of my bookshelves are hidden behind other things (couches, etc) and many shelves are two or more layers deep with books or other media.

Like most, I don't post images or videos of myself, and these days I predominantly collect digital media which only appear on virtual bookshelves ... if even that. All about convenience and lack of space and the desire for less clutter.

But for those who do post such things online, surely it is only natural that the background would have such bookcases in many cases.
those yutubers always seems so forced
oh look at all these crap behind me im such a huge gamer ... pozers
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LordTalbot: I know that CDPR got us covered. But what about other games? Would you pay a little extra for proper box and some artwork with the DRM free game in the case? Im specifically talking about games that are already released and patched and are given a physical release after. Similar to the steelbook re-releases of blu ray movies.
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AB2012: I've never been into paying a lot for art / putting a box on a shelf or empty cardboard boxes (they do fetch a high price on Ebay for collectors of old out of print games though). Discs do have the advantage of permanence though, ie, if a dev wants to make an undesirable change / needs to remove a soundtrack for expired license reasons, the disc will always remain the same unlike updating the GOG version whilst simultaneously removing the older version from re-download for non-client users...) I think the real problem is the sheer number of non-update updates GOG puts out (ie, "updated installer structure, no changes to game files") usually involving changing the structure of the installer for some reason related to Galaxy.

I do own a BD-R drive and can (and have) made an optical backup of older "finished" games that have "settled down" for pretty much the same result. And whilst the GOG Covers site is awesome (maintained by user dawnpatrol) for those who want to do their own, I tend to not print such artwork due to backing up a lot more than just 1 game per disc. Eg, games like Avadon or VVVVVV that take up barely 100MB each, you can fit over 200x of those onto 1x BD-R which takes up a lot less room than 200x discs for 200x games. Take it one step further and store those discs on a spindle or high capacity 6x disc DVD case vs individual case with 1x disc each, and you're looking at over 1,000x such smaller games stored in the width of 1x case. That's a lot of space saved.

So short answer is, I do still use optical as a "tertiary" archival backup format (in addition to HDD's), but I store them in a space-efficient archival manner rather than how a "collector" looks to showcase them on a shelf with box & artwork.
Yes!