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botan9386: With this in mind, what would the primary value of these services be then?
I might not be the best person to answer that, as I personally see no value in commercial e-mail services ;)
Out IT uses their own encryption and company mail server. So technically I use encrypted mail - but I didn't set it up myself and it's only for work. For private use, I didn't migrate to strong encryption yet.
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botan9386: Though, I noticed Tuta didn't let me delete payment information, and Proton made it awkward to remove payment information also.
Tutanota officially accepts Bitcoin/Monero via a partnership with https://digitalgoods.proxysto.re, and Proton accepts Bitcoin directly, if you're concerned about storing your payment info. I've never added card info to my Proton or Tuta account. Note that Bitcoin is extremely traceable unless you know what you're doing.

There's also https://privacy.com for unique virtual debit cards, it works similar to the AnonAddy/Proton Pass email alias thing I mentioned earlier in the thread, but for debit cards.
Post edited January 12, 2025 by sadlyrematch
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sadlyrematch: (....)
Temporary disposable emails are anonymous, virtual, and personal enough, and using code machines or slang that only both sides know will keep you safe. Anything official and kept for longer can be hacked by anonymous officials or your friends for fun, so why bother? A chat on some self-made forgotten website serves as good as.
For daily standard emails necessary for daily living.... it can't be considered personal and anonymous. But unless it is military communication or some super top-secret project of your own, there are chances that no one is interested in your communication or seeing your receipt for video games. You can believe companies if you like, it is fine.
Post edited January 12, 2025 by solseb
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sadlyrematch: (....)
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solseb: Temporary disposable emails are anonymous, virtual, and personal enough, and using code machines or slang that only both sides know will keep you safe. Anything official and kept for longer can be hacked by anonymous officials or your friends for fun, so why bother? A chat on some self-made forgotten website serves as good as.
For daily standard emails necessary for daily living.... it can't be considered personal and anonymous. But unless it is military communication or some super top-secret project of your own, there are chances that no one is interested in your communication or seeing your receipt for video games. You can believe companies if you like, it is fine.
No one brought up anonymity and protecting against "anonymous officials" but yourself.

In any case, the work I do does sometimes involve state-sponsored actors trying to get into my shit, and even outside of work I've had attempts from China and other countries to get into older, completely unrelated accounts or my bank accounts.

Just because no one cares about you doesn't mean that's the case for everyone, and your suggestions are often inadequate depending on the circumstance.
Post edited January 12, 2025 by sadlyrematch
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sadlyrematch: (....)
You are like an open book to me, so I read it before you wrote that.
Sure. Have fun with your (nulti)accounts. ^°
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sadlyrematch: (....)
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solseb: You are like an open book to me, so I read it before you wrote that.
Sure. Have fun with your (nulti)accounts. ^°
Can't tell if this is sarcasm, but I'm always eager and happy to share privacy, security, and/or anonymity tips (all of which are different, but people often conflate them).

If you care about even basic security, something like AnonAddy or Proton Pass' alias feature is highly valuable. In the event of a breach on a website, that email alias is only used on that site (thus completely detached from other sites you may use), and it can easily be deleted and replaced with a fresh alias. AnonAddy base tier is only like 1 euro a month.

Same goes for privacy, if you don't like companies have your main email, using an email alias is great.

And when signing up for AnonAddy and/or ProtonMail it is possible to do anonymously via Tor and not give them an email/phone number/credit or debit card (this is kinda based on luck for ProtonMail... sometimes their hidden service gives you just a basic hCaptcha to verify yourself, other times it forces alt. email or number; you just have to keep retrying).

These are just basic tips. If I wanted to go more in-depth I'd have to make like a 5+ part thread on it or something, but a gaming forum isn't really the place for that haha
Post edited January 12, 2025 by sadlyrematch
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sadlyrematch: (....)
Sorry, I thought it was "piracy," not privacy; I must have misread your undertitle. That's because I'm fat and can't bend anymore. Don't worry if anyone cares for me, they do. You know what is best for you ^
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sadlyrematch: (....)
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solseb: Sorry, I thought it was "piracy," not privacy; I must have misread your undertitle. That's because I'm fat and can't bend anymore. Don't worry if anyone cares for me, they do. You know what is best for you ^
Ah, in this thread I have been discussing privacy, not piracy :)

Piracy is another hobby of mine, pirating modern hollywood slop, stuff that's only on literal broken, DRMed streaming apps that don't deserve my money, or stuff that simply isn't accessible anywhere besides pirating. I still pay for indie films, music, games, etc. when I'm able to (hence, "piracy with standards").