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mqstout: However, this continues to play into what I say often:

GOG needs a 100% compatible sister site (AKA, same account/downloads/Galaxy/everything behind the scenes -- only store front/browsing to buy is different) that can do these kind of things, along with "less curated" indie games and whatnot.
I... can't say I see the point, really. The "curation" here is a joke anyway, and a separate site for worse games seems like a lot of hustle to do what could be already done here.

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Mafwek: Yes, we need bad old games like Skyrim, Call of Duty series, Battlefield series, etc. here.
How was old Call of Duty bad? The first two games were great.
Post edited June 05, 2021 by Breja
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mqstout: However, this continues to play into what I say often:

GOG needs a 100% compatible sister site (AKA, same account/downloads/Galaxy/everything behind the scenes -- only store front/browsing to buy is different) that can do these kind of things, along with "less curated" indie games and whatnot.
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Breja: I... can't say I see the point, really. The "curation" here is a joke anyway, and a separate site for worse games seems like a lot of hustle to do what could be already done here.
There are tons of games lots of us would like but were rejected for curation of "quality" or "genre" or "audience" rather than having technical issues. This would let them accept them without diluting the main bigger releases on GOG.
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Breja: I've been thinking... It all started with wanting ot play good old games right? And wanting to preserve them. DRM-free, working on modern systems. But what about the bad games? Are they also worth preserving? Would you buy them?

Sure, "good" and "bad" are subjective terms. What I mean are games like Hellboy: Dogs of Night, Destiny of the Doctors, Miami Vice - stuff that's almost universaly recognised as bad, but is notable either precisely because of how bad it is (like Daiktana seems to be) or because it represents a setting or license otherwise rarely (or never) present in games.

I don't mean those particular game neccesairly, I'm just in general curious if you'd be interested in some infamous old titles enough to actually buy them here. Because I'm asking myself that and I'm not sure. As a fan I'm very curious of the Hellboy game for example, but on the other hand, would I really spend money on a bad gamei nstead of a good one just because I'm curious?
I'm not sure Daikatana is the best example. Since release it has received a lot of love from modders to the point that Romero gave a shout out to the team responsible for fixing the numerous 'imperfections' of the last official release.
https://twitter.com/romero/status/1106606630458789889?lang=en

Here is a link to the unofficial patch mentioned https://bitbucket.org/daikatana13/daikatana/wiki/Downloads

To stick a game that launched in a broken state that has been fixed up by community support makes it worth while people buying it. Sticking a bad game up just because it's bad isn't likely to sell, make any money or anyone happy. Ultimately GOG is a business not an archive for failed curios of the past.
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Mafwek: Yes, we need bad old games like Skyrim, Call of Duty series, Battlefield series, etc. here.
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Breja: How was old Call of Duty bad? The first two games were great.
Yep, 1 and 2 were great. World at war, black ops, some of modern warfare were all ok (if heavily scripted). Only battlefield bad company 2 makes sen (maybe 1 not played that) as the other titles are just multiplayer only games. Ok, battlefield 1 has some single player campaigns.
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Mafwek: Yes, we need bad old games like Skyrim, Call of Duty series, Battlefield series, etc. here.
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Breja: How was old Call of Duty bad? The first two games were great.
Not to me. We'll agree to disagree, yes?
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Breja: How was old Call of Duty bad? The first two games were great.
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Mafwek: Not to me. We'll agree to disagree, yes?
No! Never! I will never agree to that! The line must be drawn here! This far, no further! We shall fight on the beaches! We shall fight on the landing grounds! We... wait, what are we talking about?
Post edited June 05, 2021 by Breja
I purchased Master of Orion 3 here on GOG so..... yes.
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Breja: No! Never! I will never agree to that! The line must be drawn here! This far, no further! We shall fight on the beaches! We shall fight on the landing grounds! We... wait, what are we talking about?
About Dylan Dog being the best comic book ever, we just couldn't agree which episode was the best.
Game preservation is really what I care about in this topic. Like you said, bad or good is subjective, still nostalgia plays a huge part here.

I, personally, may not care about a random bad game that I randomly played in my childhood, but some other child (now an adult) may want to relive their nostalgia of said "bad game". :)

+1 to this:
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Canuck_Cat: On a side rant, I'd rather the copyright system cut unclaimed abandonware's copyright duration and let it enter the public domain quicker so it's not stuck in legal limbo. This encourages corporations to have clear ownership so fans know who to bug about remasters and remakes. And at the same time, letting more works the public domain becomes an immensely rich source of ideas and culture to draw upon for new IPs (p.24) and by the Center for the Study of the Public Domain. Sequelitis is an issue in the video game industry because it's very risky to create new IPs on newer hardware, which is why licensing, buying IP, and letting indie studios absorb all the risks is so prevalent in this industry.
Post edited June 06, 2021 by .Keys
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Mafwek: Yes, we need bad old games like Skyrim, Call of Duty series, Battlefield series, etc. here.
poPUlaR sTUfF iS bAd.
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StingingVelvet: poPUlaR sTUfF iS bAd.
No, stuff which I don't like is bad.
GOG needs more bad games... like the shooters from Cave that were rejected. There are lots of other "bad" games that should also be here.
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StingingVelvet: poPUlaR sTUfF iS bAd.
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Mafwek: No, stuff which I don't like is bad.
That statement is so silly that together with your changed avatar I actually initially thought you were someone else also making fun of your own original post :D
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Mafwek: No, stuff which I don't like is bad.
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Breja: That statement is so silly that together with your changed avatar I actually initially thought you were someone else also making fun of your own original post :D
What can I say, good and bad are silly things, but no less than buying microtransactions or watching TV.
looks like we DO! https://store.steampowered.com/app/1655410/Witchaven/