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Posted December 17, 2016
Smart people don't eat cats. We use them as silencers for our shotguns and rifles.
Posted December 17, 2016
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Kleetus: Pigs are omnivores, they actually eat a bit of meat, stuff like worms and dead animals.

If your rule is to not eat an animal that consumes meat, then no bacon for you.
Chicken also eat worms and a multitude of dirty things laying down the road; they are being said to be as dirty as pigs, while some people consider them even more. As a funny, offshoot saying in my place goes; "The dirty food is the more tasty one"!

And there are worse... Some seashells (like mussels) that are mainstream in kitchen (especially in France), are literally, the sponges of the sea, they filtrate seawater and keep all dirt and dangerous elements inside. Costing to many people poisonings, severe health issues concerning the peptic system, even death.

To tell the truth, though, cats are also on the dangerous level, since they hunt vermin like mice and they eat insects up. But dogs and cats, compared to other animals such the above, are still, from relatively to much safer, when compared against, to eat.

But i really do wonder; i own cats and i love them, yet i have zero problem with chinese eating them (their own ones); what is the big deal with all people going mad? U no like chinese?
Post edited December 17, 2016 by KiNgBrAdLeY7
Posted December 17, 2016
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: i own cats and i love them
That means you're infected with a mind-altering protozoa, Toxoplasma gondii.

It can only reproduce in cats and requires them as the final host, and spreads through mammals where it can live indefinitely.

This is one of the many reasons why dogs are superior.
Posted December 17, 2016
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NuffCatnip: Dog for christmas? Sounds delicious! >:)
This and OP's topic name had me thinking, is eating the meat is the same as killing an intelligent (i insist on that very term) living creature...
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Lin545:
Either you are an the most extravagant person here or maybe the stuff they get you is of pure Swiss quality
Post edited December 17, 2016 by Cadaver747
Posted December 17, 2016
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: i own cats and i love them
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Kleetus: That means you're infected with a mind-altering protozoa, Toxoplasma gondii.

It can only reproduce in cats and requires them as the final host, and spreads through mammals where it can live indefinitely.

This is one of the many reasons why dogs are superior.
Tsk, tsk, will you get anything straight, son? Toxoplasma research got updated, it is to be found on dirt and mud, on the ground. Cats bring it in with their paws. Toxoplasma is more infectious when on unwashed vegetables and raw meat, exposed to the ground that is teeming with it, usually outdoors and in rural areas (those are a check for me, alas). Also, toxoplasma patients get something like a heavy cold with fever and other symptoms, only women carrying an embryo inside down there, can get dangerous brain damage and potential disabilities (for the embryo alone, take notes, please). Either way, adults themselves shrug it off very easily, unlike children and elderly, but this is the norm in illnesses, anyway.

Cats are more dangerous for Staphylococcus Aureus and the parasites they carry (of the bloodsucking variety, like those goddamn ticks). Yet i get them medicine always in time and i clean them with baby wipes, when indoors. My big tomcat even bathes regularly of his own volition too, he likes water for some very strange reason.
Post edited December 17, 2016 by KiNgBrAdLeY7
Posted December 17, 2016
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: Toxoplasma research got updated, it is to be found on dirt and mud, on the ground.
Doesn't change the fact that you're infected and that dogs are superior.

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KiNgBrAdLeY7: goddamn ticks
You probably don't have paralysis ticks, awful things that can paralyse and kill.
Post edited December 17, 2016 by Kleetus
Posted December 18, 2016
Cats and dogs are generally eaten in the winter time. In the summer time, we eat Smurfs.
Posted December 18, 2016
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Cadaver747: Either you are an the most extravagant person here or maybe the stuff they get you is of pure Swiss quality
... fine. I am the most extravagant here. Thank you!
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awalterj: Cats and dogs are generally eaten in the winter time. In the summer time, we eat Smurfs.
Its proven that the issue exist. Trying to play it out as a joke only means supporting (or trying to hide, which is same) the fact, since it was already a similar attempt (the "fake" restaurant "video"). Can't add this as an opinion to OP.
Post edited December 18, 2016 by Lin545
Posted December 18, 2016
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Siannah: What a fantastic job you're doing. /sarcasm
The voice of an ethologist and animal psychiatrist means shit, yet a few of the 50 comments and the up-/down vote ratio of them, you consider a "reliable enough source", to project it on millions. Lovely.
I included you post (means shit) and I have drawn conclusions based upon votes in swiss forum. I consider it reliable, because of the sufficient group diversity and composition. For example, pro-dog eating voice of "meat is just meat" got 500 upvotes and 60 downvotes.

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Siannah: Yes you do generalize. You already made you opinion back on page 2:
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Lin545: which I assume is mostly done and voted by Swiss people - - accoding to the percentages of votes given to those protesting and defending ("irrelevancing / whatever-ing") the dog meat consumtion - I can 95% verdict that dogs and cats are indeed being eaten in Switzerland.
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Siannah:
This is not a generalization, generalization would be all Swiss people eat dogs/cats or if you are Swiss - then you eat dogs/cats.
I stated that 95% chance, some percentage of Swiss eat dog/cats- chance size being projection of:
a) acknowledgement of problem in media and informational outlets
b) dog consumption bystanders by percentage of votes.


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Siannah: From there on, you're just running your ugly agenda for whatever reason.
Guess what? I can safely verdict by 100% you being an mudslinger with no freakin' clue.
As I have not written all that, I am just sharing what is publicly accessible.
I would be running agenda, if I would cherry pick the results, mute opinions or try to connect this discussion to some goal - which I am not doing.


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Siannah: But you want to get to the bottom of this? Then google for "SOS Chats Noiraigue" and you see where this all is coming from.
Are they now the only guys with a clue or a more extremist animal-protection group then PETA? Decide for yourself. Though take note, that even they claim that it's about 3% of swiss people doing so (and I doubt they have anything to back even that number up).

/Siannah out
Googled and I see some kind of campaign to protect cats. Please explain if I am missing something. What would be wrong with a law to forbid murder of domestic animals? I have already explained why their percentage is not reliable. I don't see how they are connected to PETA.
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morolf: Hmm, I have to admit the pattern of up and down votes in that comment thread you mentioned is interesting :-) But there's no way to tell how representative that is, one would have to do a poll with a large sample size to get a better picture.
Anyway, this thread has been highly entertaining...thanks for that :-)
Thank you for posting the link to that article!
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morolf: Pigs are omnivores though, there have been quite a few documented cases throughout the ages of them eating even humans. I think I even read about some case a few years ago in which the mafia in southern Italy fed some guy they wanted to get rid of to pigs - while he was still alive.
This moment is also present in the [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snatch_(film)]Snatch[/url], the mafia boss feeds everyone to the pigs.
Post edited December 18, 2016 by Lin545
Posted December 18, 2016
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Siannah: What a fantastic job you're doing. /sarcasm
The voice of an ethologist and animal psychiatrist means shit, yet a few of the 50 comments and the up-/down vote ratio of them, you consider a "reliable enough source", to project it on millions. Lovely.
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Lin545: I included you post (means shit) and I have drawn conclusions based upon votes in swiss forum. I consider it reliable, because of the sufficient group diversity and composition. For example, pro-dog eating voice of "meat is just meat" got 500 upvotes and 60 downvotes.
I've never heard of anyone eating cats and dogs in three decades here, it's a hoax and you're full of shit.
Post edited December 18, 2016 by Narakir
Posted December 18, 2016
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Narakir: I've never heard of anyone eating cats and dogs in three decades here, it's a hoax and you're full of shit.
Included!
Posted December 18, 2016
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awalterj: Cats and dogs are generally eaten in the winter time. In the summer time, we eat Smurfs.
ha ha , as a chef, i have never had to cook a cat.......
we eat em raw in aussie. All year round...
Mmmmm cappachio of cat.... side of salad and
a light vinegrette.. careful not ot over season.
Posted December 18, 2016
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Lin545: Googled and I see some kind of campaign to protect cats. Please explain if I am missing something. What would be wrong with a law to forbid murder of domestic animals? I have already explained why their percentage is not reliable. I don't see how they are connected to PETA.
Another searchengine might give you the broader picture (though at this point, I really doubt it):
"sos chats noiraigue" on Duckduckgo
The first few results are direct links of the group, followed by a few about the petition and pretty much everything else is about media picking up the claim of Swiss eating cats - congratulations, you've just found the source of it.

Another "it's a hoax" link from Pranksters.com that you missed in your "research".
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There's nothing wrong with a law to forbid it. The "problem" is that we're rather liberal and don't what everything regulated by law. It's downright insane to drive around in winter time without winter tires here, yet they aren't compulsory by law.
Posted December 18, 2016
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Siannah: Another searchengine might give you the broader picture (though at this point, I really doubt it):
"sos chats noiraigue" on Duckduckgo
The first few results are direct links of the group, followed by a few about the petition and pretty much everything else is about media picking up the claim of Swiss eating cats - congratulations, you've just found the source of it.

Another "it's a hoax" link from that you missed in your "research". <a href="http://www.gog.com/forum/general/do_swiss_people_eat_cats_and_dogs_for_christmas/post118" class="link_arrow"></a></div> I have actually read the pranksters and [url=http://hoaxes.org/weblog/comments/swiss_secretly_eat_cats]hoaxes.org articles, which are notably same in the manner than they only provide two counter arguments:
- its stirred up by "sos chats noiraigue"
- the 3% is pulled out of nowhere
However, SOS Chats were not the only one going public with this.

They also both acknowledge that there was a tradition of dog/cat eating. On the video I found (linked in OP) it is shown that the last dog sausage shop closing in 196x.

Also I found no direct confirmation, but it can't be excluded that "Hot Dogs" invented by German immigrant actually contained "hot dog" meat or were the reference to "special" sausages.

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Siannah: There's nothing wrong with a law to forbid it. The "problem" is that we're rather liberal and don't what everything regulated by law. It's downright insane to drive around in winter time without winter tires here, yet they aren't compulsory by law.
Understandable, but then cannibalism can be easily justified if both agree - where in reality hardly anyone in sane mind would agree to this except through direct/indirect force.

Also many comments in the Blick article included phrases like "meat is meat" and "if its property, its not wrong" which is not only confirmation, but also quite worrying because they can be easily transfered to justifying previously mentioned cannibalism or pedophilia.

I value your opinion, that you strongly oppose this and consider it to be made up, and have included it in OP. I will expand it with reasoning your provided.
Posted December 18, 2016
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Lin545: I have actually read the pranksters and hoaxes.org articles, which are notably same in the manner than they only provide two counter arguments:
- its stirred up by "sos chats noiraigue"
- the 3% is pulled out of nowhere
However, SOS Chats were not the only one going public with this.
So you read it, yet failed to consider it as genuine. All the while each and every little snippet supporting the believe cats and dogs are being used as meat today, get's a pass from you without scrutinizing it.

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Lin545: Also I found no direct confirmation, but it can't be excluded that "Hot Dogs" invented by German immigrant actually contained "hot dog" meat or were the reference to "special" sausages.
Though I found no direct confirmation, it can't be excluded that you are an escaped lunatic.
If that is the way you want to argue, we have nothing to discuss about. You can't just throw stuff in and expect others to "prove" it isn't so - that's the definition of "pull out of your ass".

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Lin545: Also many comments in the Blick article included phrases like "meat is meat" and "if its property, its not wrong" which is not only confirmation, but also quite worrying because they can be easily transfered to justifying previously mentioned cannibalism or pedophilia.
Not only are you using only parts of those comments as proof, without questioning it. Now you're throwing cannibalism and pedophilia in on top of it. Sadly you don't seem to see how much you disqualify yourself, as you're to abstracted stirring the pot.

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Lin545: I value your opinion...
Wish I could claim the same. But that couldn't be further from the truth.
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