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That seems more like a urban legend, or something that a tiny part of the population (like 0.01% or less) does sometimes. The fact is that you'd need to raise the dogs or cats yourselves, then be willing to slaughter them yourself, as well as probably hide it from your neighbours since they'd likely disapprove.

That makes eating dogs or cats extremely impractical compared to eating beef or pork, even if you don't object for moral reasons.

Personally, I'm willing to eat pretty much anything at least once, and I've eaten dozens of different animals, but I've never seen dog or cat meat available anywhere in Europe.
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Lin545: PS: I assumed "somewhere between 50% to 10% of real population eats them" due to reactions of Swiss citizens in comments made by Swiss citizens of Swiss article in Swiss newspaper.

The link, which "points out, and" you "quote" to swissinfo (again, official Swiss site:correct me?) was not used to approximate percentage ("99.5"), since there it is an unsourced number. Swissinfo was used to confirm or deny existence of the problem itself. For real percentage, I linked the reactions of Swiss citizens themselves.
What a fantastic job you're doing. /sarcasm
The voice of an ethologist and animal psychiatrist means shit, yet a few of the 50 comments and the up-/down vote ratio of them, you consider a "reliable enough source", to project it on millions. Lovely.

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Lin545: Also, please note that I do not generalize - I wrote "Is it true that ...(do)... in Switzerland", and not that "is it true that all Swiss citizens ..(do).. in Switzerland".
Yes you do generalize. You already made you opinion back on page 2:
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Lin545: which I assume is mostly done and voted by Swiss people - - accoding to the percentages of votes given to those protesting and defending ("irrelevancing / whatever-ing") the dog meat consumtion - I can 95% verdict that dogs and cats are indeed being eaten in Switzerland.
From there on, you're just running your ugly agenda for whatever reason.
Guess what? I can safely verdict by 100% you being an mudslinger with no freakin' clue.

But you want to get to the bottom of this? Then google for "SOS Chats Noiraigue" and you see where this all is coming from.
Are they now the only guys with a clue or a more extremist animal-protection group then PETA? Decide for yourself. Though take note, that even they claim that it's about 3% of swiss people doing so (and I doubt they have anything to back even that number up).

/Siannah out
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Lin545: Opinion is opinion, reality is reality.
My impression is that opinions expressed under disguise of anonymity, provided that the group composition itself is valid, are much closer to reality and whats really going under the hood, than when publicly expressed or even officially stated.

Maybe, but fact is that support of dog-consumption proponents (comment lines among "whatever"/play on irrelevancy, "meat-is-meat"/"all meat is same", "I better eat dog than fish", "handle like cow, kill with dignity - whats difference" ) was substantially higher (typically 2/3 UPvoted to 1/3 DOWNvoted) than of opponents of dog and cat consumption (2/3 downvoted such comments). This is where the number "50" came, technically it should be "66". The amount of by-mixed "noise" in these votes should be equal, I assume as the article was done fairly long ago. Well, I am not a statistical analyst - trying to follow some common best practice.
Hmm, I have to admit the pattern of up and down votes in that comment thread you mentioned is interesting :-) But there's no way to tell how representative that is, one would have to do a poll with a large sample size to get a better picture.
Anyway, this thread has been highly entertaining...thanks for that :-)
I don't care for the pedantic discussion. The Swiss have the best beef and dairy, why even bother with cats and dogs. Many cultures eat cats and dogs.

You people need to visit an actual Vietnamese restaurant sometimes.
Post edited December 16, 2016 by eksasol
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eksasol: The Swiss have the best beef and dairy,
HERESY!!!!!
Yes I've been reading about the resurgence of artisan cheese in Wisconsin and the northern states, and retaining the traditional methods of the French and Swiss in making them.
Post edited December 16, 2016 by eksasol
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eksasol: Yes I've been reading about the resurgence of artisan cheese in Wisconsin and the northern states, and retaining the traditional methods of the French and Swiss in making them.
Fuck artisan cheese! I want Cheddar! :P
I like 18months old+ aged cheeses, but they gets expensive.
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: About "torture", ALL animals WORLDWIDE who are to become food, undergo torture
Not as barbaric as this, dogs are piled into cages on top of each other and animals are hung alive upside and skinned, then tossed onto a scrap heap with dozens of other alive and skinned animals.

You don't have a clue, so spare me your crap.
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: they don't play with their food
No, they just lock bears up in cages, then insert a catheter into their bile duct and bile is harvested from the animal.

It never leaves the tiny cage and is only kept alive to produce bile.
Post edited December 16, 2016 by Kleetus
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Kleetus: Not as barbaric as this, dogs are piled into cages on top of each other and animals are hung alive upside and skinned, then tossed onto a scrap heap with dozens of other alive and skinned animals.

You don't have a clue, so spare me your crap.
YOU don't have a clue dear baby, that was part of my former job, so spare me the fantasies. I have even overseen transportation of animals to slaughterhouse live, as well as the (stun)gun and slice (you don't want to watch live the moment that gun doesn't hit well enough to paralyze poor beast and what comes after...), or the CO2 chamber and slice, executions and i swear, chinese aren't so much more "savage", compared to others and all. I had even taught to people before, presenting them with live footage movies about slaughtering animals to become food, as part of health inspection, food technology and butcher school. Out of the basement and a nice, educating trip to slaughterhouse and meathouse nearest you, is what you should do (if they allow you in, in the first place; you have to be someone related somehow). To dispel your misconceptions.

Of course, this is my place, which is still far behind (most) european or western safety/health standards and lacking on technology department, i know some european countries are much better on the whole deal, but still, nutritious animals are EVERYWHERE treated like shit. Some people even enjoy seeing them suffer, such as certain peasants or sick little people, like mostly those who transport them and even kick them or beat them up (to make them walk forward; animals smell blood and can guess very well where they are heading to).

Vegan craziness though is something otherwordly, entirely! Let us eat and enjoy our meat, god damn it! You don't like it, at least allow those who do to "savor" it, literally! Sheesh...

P.S. Australian safari is thriving, or so i hear, exactly like african one. Killing dozens of wildlife, most of which not even edible, just for the lols, must be immeasurably more humane. Hypocrites.

P.S. 2 I wish you never see mass killing chickens and electrocution, or their initial preparation with hormones injection and worst of all, de-beaking. Especially the last one...

P.S. 3 What say you about fish? Or Eels, who are pretty much the martyrs (hanged, hooked and skinned)... Or crustaceans, boiling alive, just like crabs... Big crab meat is an excellent hoer' d' oeuvre, but they need to be fresh and boil while still alive and in one piece, or Lobster an excellent main dish, likewise... First class restaurants, first world, serve those, especially to the rich, but no rich man ever protested about his Lobster boiling alive; the dogs and cats that the chinese eat, is the issue! HYPOCRITES! :D

P.S. 4 Lefts, SJWs and extremists should concern themselves more, with inventing fascism everywhere and constructing anti-anything; but directly meddling in the "table" and "diets" of other people like that, just goes too much. "Respect different cultures". "They are our brothers and sisters". Your mottos, not mine; yet i implement them, while you at one second cry those and over pretty much the very next one, self-proclaim yourselves their (other people's) dictators, deciding arbitrarily and randomly all by yourselves, what foreign people to you should eat and even, how to prepare it! Cooking is science, butcher and slayer a profession; leave science to scientists and professions to professionals, thank you very much! :P
Post edited December 16, 2016 by KiNgBrAdLeY7
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: so spare me the fantasies.
It's documented and there's videos, the only fantasy here is the nonsense you sprout.

Go watch the videos and tell me it's fantasy.

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KiNgBrAdLeY7: You don't like it, at least allow those who do to "savor" it, literally!
Where did I say I was against meat consumption?

I eat meat, I've already stated that, it's how you treat the animal and not it's consumption.

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KiNgBrAdLeY7: Killing dozens of wildlife, most of which not even edible, just for the lols, must be immeasurably more humane.
What are you on about?

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KiNgBrAdLeY7: Hypocrite.
Last time I checked, I never locked a bear in a tiny cage to harvest its bile.

Nor do I kill endangered animals for bullshit traditional "medicine".

Nor am I cruel to animals or cause them suffering,

So no, genius, it's not hypocrisy.
Post edited December 16, 2016 by Kleetus
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morolf: Eating cats, dogs or monkeys seems to be explicitly prohibited in Germany
Probably something similar in other western countries then, ie. a list of animals you are not allowed to prepare for food and eat. I was mainly thinking if it is a white list (a list of animals you are allowed to eat, and nothing else), or a black list (animals you are not allowed to eat, anything else goes). Probably it is a black list then.

This also occurred to me as some companies here have apparently canned e.g. bear and lynx meat for consumption, as kind of a expensive specialty I guess.

I used to think that my line goes there that I don't eat other carnivores (e.g. pigs, chickens, cows and even horse are hence ok; albeit I must admit I have a bit of reluctance to eat horse meat at least often), while carnivores like the aforementioned bear and lynx are not. I guess I could eat vegan humans too if I was very hungry.

At some point I realized though I've been slipping from that, considering that e.g. salmon (which I like a lot) is certainly a carnivore. Damn, and I thought I had it all figured out.
Post edited December 16, 2016 by timppu
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timppu: salmon (which I like a lot) is certainly a carnivore.
Pigs are omnivores, they actually eat a bit of meat, stuff like worms and dead animals.

If your rule is to not eat an animal that consumes meat, then no bacon for you.

The press release was a hoax generated by a Swiss animal rights group called SOS-Chats Noiraigue. Although cat eating was once part of rural Swiss tradition—as it was in other parts of Europe—the practice died off long ago just as it did elsewhere on the continent. When questioned, SOS-Chats could not produce the source of their statistics and this inability to support their claims, along with official responses like the Swiss ambassador writing a refutation to The Dominion Post, led to the realization that it was all made up.
Source: Gotcha! The Top 4 April Fools’ Day Food Hoaxes
Post edited December 16, 2016 by Siannah
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morolf: Eating cats, dogs or monkeys seems to be explicitly prohibited in Germany
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timppu: Probably something similar in other western countries then, ie. a list of animals you are not allowed to prepare for food and eat. I was mainly thinking if it is a white list (a list of animals you are allowed to eat, and nothing else), or a black list (animals you are not allowed to eat, anything else goes). Probably it is a black list then.

This also occurred to me as some companies here have apparently canned e.g. bear and lynx meat for consumption, as kind of a expensive specialty I guess.

I used to think that my line goes there that I don't eat other carnivores (e.g. pigs, chickens, cows and even horse are hence ok; albeit I must admit I have a bit of reluctance to eat horse meat at least often), while carnivores like the aforementioned bear and lynx are not. I guess I could eat vegan humans too if I was very hungry.

At some point I realized though I've been slipping from that, considering that e.g. salmon (which I like a lot) is certainly a carnivore. Damn, and I thought I had it all figured out.
Pigs are omnivores though, there have been quite a few documented cases throughout the ages of them eating even humans. I think I even read about some case a few years ago in which the mafia in southern Italy fed some guy they wanted to get rid of to pigs - while he was still alive.
Pigs being omnivores is actually part of my rationale why eating their meat is ok...if they could they'd eat me as well, so why should I feel guilty about it? :-)

EDIT: Found something about the case I mentioned: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2515069/Gangster-kills-rival-feeding-alive-pigs-year-feud-members-Italian-crime-syndicate.html
Post edited December 16, 2016 by morolf