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Posted November 02, 2019
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MaxFulvus: Am I the only one to be disappointed by the fact that Lilith doesn't has boobs in the trailer ? Censorship, puritanism, aesthetic choice ?
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GameRager: Pandering to the pc crowd, more likely.
You want them to show titties for a Trailer that was meant to be viewed by a wide public?
Posted November 02, 2019
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Elmofongo: You want them to show titties for a Trailer that was meant to be viewed by a wide public?
Not bare breasts,obviously(as that would never fly here on some channels), but i've seen clothed "assets" on various adverts during daylight hours so I see no reason they couldn't do such here unless they are pandering to such people like many other devs these days.

I mean look at all the devs making women less endowed and covering them up....many claim it's artistic vision, but looking at rejected designs for some of these characters and reading leaked game dev info shows they want to make stuff that men(and some women) want to see but don't to avoid cries of "that's objectification!".
Post edited November 02, 2019 by GameRager
Posted November 03, 2019
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Maxvorstadt: Because?
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BeatriceElysia: because D4?
Diablo 4 has nothing to do with Diablo 1 and Warcraft 1&2 being released on GoG.
It's way more likely that they got released here
-to counter some of the bad PR and the flak Blizzard got for the Diablo Immortal announcement debacle
-because those games are so damn old that Blizzard either couldn't figure out how or couldn't be arsed to get them to fit into their internal framework where everything has to be always-online and installed, launched and maintained through the Battle.net client.
Post edited November 03, 2019 by Swedrami
Posted November 03, 2019
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MaxFulvus: Am I the only one to be disappointed by the fact that Lilith doesn't has boobs in the trailer ? Censorship, puritanism, aesthetic choice ?
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GameRager: Pandering to the pc crowd, more likely.
The mage (I guess) had boobs combined with clothes so revealing that I would get uncomfortable if I saw a neighbor clothed like that. One character has big boobs, another one has smaller boobs, what's the problem? I for one am glad that they choose what they think fits the character instead of trying to please any side of identity politics.
Posted November 03, 2019
You want titties?
Have at it (or in motion if you prefer).

The thing is that they won't be there anymore when the game releases.
Together with all depictions of blood, bones and everything else that doesn't fly in good old China.
Posted November 03, 2019
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DadJoke007: The mage (I guess) had boobs combined with clothes so revealing that I would get uncomfortable if I saw a neighbor clothed like that.
Understandable, but this is supposed to be an(m rated I assume) fantasy game, not a neighbor in public(and thus full of violence and/or lewd things to some degree).

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DadJoke007: One character has big boobs, another one has smaller boobs, what's the problem? I for one am glad that they choose what they think fits the character instead of trying to please any side of identity politics.
I didn't know their bust sizes personally....I was basing my reply on the supposition that all/most female characters had their bust sizes reduced(which usually happens nowadays due to pc pandering). I agree that an artists's vision should be followed over any identity politics as well.

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Swedrami: You want titties?
Have at it (or in motion if you prefer).

The thing is that they won't be there anymore when the game releases.
Together with all depictions of blood, bones and everything else that doesn't fly in good old China.
Nice, but I don't want them for them(I can see such elsewhere at any time)....I just dislike censorship in most forms, and people pandering to pc culture/prudish people to sell game copies.

As for china: Did they ever allow the sale of the older Diablo games? As they have(iirc) ghosts and spirits/demons I don't know if that could fly over there.
Post edited November 03, 2019 by GameRager
Posted November 03, 2019
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Swedrami: You want titties?
Have at it (or in motion if you prefer).

The thing is that they won't be there anymore when the game releases.
Together with all depictions of blood, bones and everything else that doesn't fly in good old China.
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GameRager: Nice, but I don't want them for them(I can see such elsewhere at any time)....I just dislike censorship in most forms, and people pandering to pc culture/prudish people to sell game copies.

As for china: Did they ever allow the sale of the older Diablo games? As they have(iirc) ghosts and spirits/demons I don't know if that could fly over there.
No idea.
I vaguely remember that in general there are some differences in regards to retail vs. digital censorship (one being not as strict as the other?), but I could be wrong there.

Besides the mentioned things very likely to be subjected to censorship I do expect the general darkness and grittiness to be gradually and ever so slightly dialed back over the next few years (or however long development is going to take) as well and that the end product will look nothing like what was revealed yesterday.
It'll be Diablo 3 all over again.
Post edited November 03, 2019 by Swedrami
Posted November 03, 2019
Mixed feeling about it but it does look nice, wish they showed more characters unless they are gonna use them for a future expansion.
Post edited November 03, 2019 by DreamedArtist
Posted November 03, 2019
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Swedrami: No idea.
I vaguely remember that in general there are some differences in regards to retail vs. digital censorship (one being not as strict as the other?), but I could be wrong there.
Ok then.

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Swedrami: Besides the mentioned things very likely to be subjected to censorship I do expect the general darkness and grittiness to be gradually and ever so slightly dialed back over the next few years (or however long development is going to take) as well and that the end product will look nothing like what was revealed yesterday.
It'll be Diablo 3 all over again.
Eh, I actually LIKED the look/feel of D3, and also the older looks of D2/D1, so even if it looks like D3 but plays good(and is fun) i'll likely get and like it(well as long as there's no always online, that is).
Posted November 03, 2019
Well, as a long-time fan of the Diablo saga, this first unveiling of Diablo IV looks interesting at least... No cartoonish graphics like Diablo III, no "chosen one" bullshit like Diablo III, a grim and dark story as every Diablo game should be. And the Sorceress, always love me so Sorceress...

Let's hope for the better then, too bad it's still online-only even in single-player mode like the fucking "Facebook Diablo" (Diablo III, again).
Post edited November 03, 2019 by KingofGnG
Posted November 03, 2019
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KingofGnG: Well, as a long-time fan of the Diablo saga, this first unveiling of Diablo IV looks interesting at least... No cartoonish graphics like Diablo III, no "chosen one" bullshit like Diablo III, a grim and dark story as every Diablo game should be. And the Sorceress, always love me so Sorceress...
I personally love the chosen one cliche(although I also like when it's not used sometimes as well), and yes sorceress is awesome, as well as paladin and demon hunter.

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KingofGnG: Let's hope for the better then, too bad it's still online-only even in single-player mode like the fucking "Facebook Diablo" (Diablo III, again).
If they make a console version that's not as online based after a bit that would also be good.
Posted November 03, 2019
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Swedrami: Besides the mentioned things very likely to be subjected to censorship I do expect the general darkness and grittiness to be gradually and ever so slightly dialed back over the next few years (or however long development is going to take) as well and that the end product will look nothing like what was revealed yesterday.
It'll be Diablo 3 all over again.
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GameRager: Eh, I actually LIKED the look/feel of D3, and also the older looks of D2/D1, so even if it looks like D3 but plays good(and is fun) i'll likely get and like it(well as long as there's no always online, that is).
Abandon all hope:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbOXITEMVNs&t=2101

No real surpise there, Blizzard will never again make a game that isn't always-online, even for singleplayer.
How else are they going to retain control over the game resp. the license to the game you purchased?

Dungeons and campaign quest areas remaining "private" may sound acceptable enough at first glance, but they forgot to mention that in what they're referring to as "safe spaces" (villages, settlements, etc) in the general "shared (over-)world" you'll still see and come across other players (with names such as "BitchMeister666" or "ROFLn00b" on display). So much for the truly solo "private" and immersive experience.

They should just call it for what it is - a fucking MMO.
Posted November 03, 2019
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Swedrami: Abandon all hope:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbOXITEMVNs&t=2101

No real surprise there, Blizzard will never again make a game that isn't always-online, even for singleplayer.
How else are they going to retain control over the game resp. the license to the game you purchased?
They might still eventually someday make a consoleized version that doesn't need such things....I still will hold out hope, faint as it may be.

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Swedrami: Dungeons and campaign quest areas remaining "private" may sound acceptable enough at first glance, but they forgot to mention that in what they're referring to as "safe spaces" (villages, settlements, etc) in the general "shared (over-)world" you'll still see and come across other players (with names such as "BitchMeister666" or "ROFLn00b" on display). So much for the truly solo "private" and immersive experience.
I have played games with weird player names popping uip before(Demon's Souls, some multiplayer games) so no biggie for me.....also I think they might not allow some more vulgar names for various reasons.

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Swedrami: They should just call it for what it is - a fucking MMO.
EH, I like SOME less popular MMOs.....if it followed their lead in look/feel/play I might like it....although I reallly want that console version that plays offline eventually.
Posted November 03, 2019
Doesn't matter. People shouldn't support a company who values supporting an oppressive regime and getting paid by them over basic human rights. I'll never give Blizzard another dime, and I hope those hypocritical fucktards go out of business for showing their true colors.
Posted November 03, 2019
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paladin181: Doesn't matter. People shouldn't support a company who values supporting an oppressive regime and getting paid by them over basic human rights. I'll never give Blizzard another dime, and I hope those hypocritical fucktards go out of business for showing their true colors.
I commend you for sticking to your guns and all, but let's be realistic....people have desires and wants, and many others with less conviction will do so whether you/I stick to our guns or not.

Said companies(unless they did something unforgivable and lost a ton of sales) will make said money anyways so why not let people play as they will(and without being judged, as we all do things others would find fault in) and let the market decide as it should?
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