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There seems to be a lot of confusion going on presently on the GOG forums.
People cant seem to be able to make the difference between political reasons and economical (aka business) reasons.
Conflating the economical with the political is simply wrong, and China is a living proof of that, being a country of two systems, communist politics, capitalist economics.

Now to the point i would like to address.
A disturbing amount of angry threads have been popping up on GOG forums, blaming GOG for "bowing down to the Chinese Communist Party (CCP)", by removing an obscure Taiwanese game (Devotion), from the store.

Would like to concentrate on the claims of these angry posters first:
1. GOG removed the game because Chinese players complained and since the Chinese players represent a decent cut of the GOG business, they (GOG) didnt want to lose this customer base, so they removed the game.
2. GOG bowed to Chinese Communist Party by removing this game for political reasons.

Can you guys observe the contradiction above?

Removing the game in order to not aggravate and eventually lose the Chinese player base is NOT a political communist decision, but a purely economical capitalist decision based on the elementary laws of profit, customer satisfaction and financial viability.

The reasons for the Chinese players complaining? Just for a Winnie the Pooh stab? Thats what the internet claims, but we dont know for sure since we didnt play the game, so maybe, maybe not, but regardless, it looks like the Chinese players can get riled up over trivial things just like the angry posters on the english GOG forums.

Guess westerners have to accept the fact that not only they can get offended over stupid things...oh the horror, Those Chinese and Russian people could get overly sensitive about their countries as you get about yours? How dare they?

You have the right to complain about the removing of the Devotion game of course, but please, dont be an idiot and blame it on the CCP...please? This aint political, its purely economical, at least on the part of GOG.
Post edited December 22, 2020 by kaboro
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Praise Bob
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moved to post below
Post edited December 22, 2020 by GamezRanker
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False distinction, even if real Chinese gamers complained to Gog, they've been whipped into a nationalist frenzy over this game by the CCP. So of course it's political.
Anyway, I could respect Gog if they were open about their reasons for not carrying this game. But framing it the way they did, pretty much as evidence of their pro-consumer stance ("Hey, look at us, we're listening to gamers!"), is really beneath contempt imo, apparently they think their customers are total idiots. So I'll have to consider whether I still want to buy anything at Gog, all the more so since this would only be the final straw after many other questionable actions.
Post edited December 22, 2020 by morolf
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kaboro: You have the right to complain about the removing of the Devotion game of course, but please, dont be an idiot and blame it on the CCP...please? This aint political, its purely economical, at least on the part of GOG.
And who controls if GOG can keep doing business in China? The CCP
(who more or less control all the businesses in China and trade coming in and out of China)

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Side musing: I've noticed an interesting trend of late......several canadian users(a country that afaik also has a decent sized asian population) have more or less all sided with GOG on this issue and/or said to not blame the CCP for this decision. I wonder why.
Post edited December 22, 2020 by GamezRanker
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GamezRanker: Not trying to sound or be un-pc, but I have noticed something: several users from Canada, a country with a decent(afaik) sized asian population, are seemingly ok with GOG's decision. I wonder if there's any connection?
Conspiracy theory mindset in action.
Its not like the United States dont have a decent sized asian population.
Also Asian does not equal Chinese.
Also several users from Canada are hysterical about GOG's decision...what gives?
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Well, that's just the problem, isn't it? They didn't actually state what the complaint was. You have to fill in the blanks yourself. Connect the dots, if you will.
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morolf: False distinction, even if real Chinese gamers complained to Gog, they've been whipped into a nationalist frenzy over this game by the CCP. So of course it's political.
Anyway, I could respect Gog if they were open about their reasons for not carrying this game. But framing it the way they did, pretty much as evidence of their pro-consumer stance ("Hey, look at us, we're listening to gamers!"), is really beneath contempt imo, apparently they think their customers are total idiots. So I'll have to consider whether I still want to buy anything at Gog, all the more so since this would only be the final straw after many other questionable actions.
Just like you were whipped in to your anti-China frenzy by the US propaganda machine, congrats for falling for it.
Oh and lest look at your "hey look at us, we're listening to gamers" complaint.
2000 chinese gamers complain, as opposed to 20 western gamers, GOG decides to "listen" to the 2000....i guess thats called.....ummm....whats the name.....oh yes its called democracy, the larger number wins...simple game really.
Post edited December 22, 2020 by kaboro
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kaboro: Would like to concentrate on the claims of these angry posters first:
1. GOG removed the game because Chinese players complained and since the Chinese players represent a decent cut of the GOG business, they (GOG) didnt want to lose this customer base, so they removed the game.
Literally nobody believes that "Chinese players complained." The only people making that assertion (and even they don't believe it) are apologists for GOG who are fine & dandy with GOG censoring/banning the game, and they are not angry at all....except for being angry at GOG customers who won't stand for having GOG ban games for censorship reasons solely because a foreign political party wants them to.

The second claim in your OP is, conversely, not made by GOG apologists, but rather, by an entirely distinct group, one comprised of bold tellers of truth who don't bend the knee to tyranny and don't want GOG to do so either, who also don't appreciate GOG lying to them by saying "many gamers" told them to ban the game so that's why they did.

So, the reason why your OP has a 'contradiction' in it, is because you are conflating a false argument from GOG apologists, with a true argument from truth tellers who aren't GOG apologists, and who aren't afraid to call GOG out on their evil & nefarious behaviors.

As for the end of your OP calling everyone 'idiots' who tells the truth about this matter, well that makes quite clear which of those two camps you fall into.

Finally, the premise of your OP is incorrect. GOG is going to lose a lot more money by bending the knee to the CCP, and by lying to their customers about it, than they otherwise would have done if they had released the game as they had originally planned to do, before they bowed down to the CCP at the last minute and thus banned it.
Post edited December 22, 2020 by Ancient-Red-Dragon
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kaboro: Just like you were whipped in to your anti-China frenzy by the US propaganda machine, congrats for falling for it.
Oh and lest look at your "hey look at us, we're listening to gamers" complaint.
2000 chinese gamers complain, as opposed to 20 western gamers, GOG decides to "listen" to the 2000....i guess thats called.....ummm....whats the name.....oh yes its called democracy.
I'm not influenced by the "US propaganda machine" and will say I disagree with the tone of many American commenters on this issue (motes and beams, will write no more). However this idea that if a group of "gamers" just causes enough of a shitstorm Gog won't publish the game, no matter the issue, is really appalling imo. This is just giving in to the mob and the opposite of a genuine pro-consumer stance, since it harms the people who would want to play the game.
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kaboro: Conspiracy theory mindset in action.
Given what we know(which yes, isn't a lot), it's more than likely some chinese(either in china or elsewhere) are very likely trying to deflect criticism for GOG's decision re: Devotion here and elsewhere online....heck, the "many gamers" GOG talked about were possibly some of the same people.
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I just hope the people who have started raging recently (I didn't even know the game existed before) are "fighting the good fight" under every digital videogames store because literally nobody sells the game.

If you really need some devotion that you started craving so much since like last week, have this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13heVfqIRBE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb4PvHZ0pQ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQL-lAo2DIs
It might calm you down for the holidays at least
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kaboro: 2000 chinese gamers complain, as opposed to 20 western gamers, GOG decides to "listen" to the 2000....i guess thats called.....ummm....whats the name.....oh yes its called democracy, the larger number wins...simple game really.
Currently around 8000 people want the game here, as per the wishlist. Even if half of those votes were somehow invalidated, that is still DOUBLE the 2000 number you just stated.

(and I am guessing more people want it here but didn't vote for one reason or another..meaning the number who want it here is likely higher)
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kaboro: Just like you were whipped in to your anti-China frenzy by the US propaganda machine, congrats for falling for it.
Oh and lest look at your "hey look at us, we're listening to gamers" complaint.
2000 chinese gamers complain, as opposed to 20 western gamers, GOG decides to "listen" to the 2000....i guess thats called.....ummm....whats the name.....oh yes its called democracy.
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morolf: I'm not influenced by the "US propaganda machine" and will say I disagree with the tone of many American commenters on this issue (motes and beams, will write no more). However this idea that if a group of "gamers" just causes enough of a shitstorm Gog won't publish the game, no matter the issue, is really appalling imo. This is just giving in to the mob and the opposite of a genuine pro-consumer stance, since it harms the people who would want to play the game.
You keep on contradicting yourself, the two notions that you consider opposite, namely 1. "giving in to the mob" and 2. "pro-consumer stance" are actually one and the same thing.
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kaboro: 2000 chinese gamers complain
Can someone kindly explain the gist of the complaints, or is this some kind of state secret?