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Ashleee: Please be nice to each other and don't intentionally derail the thread :)

Keep in mind that political discussions not related to games are not allowed.
I totally agree but the only one I see name calling is Fate-is-one-edge.
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Ashleee: Please be nice to each other and don't intentionally derail the thread :)
Can you please forward to the bizdev staff that they should try to bring Devotion and Detention here? Gog might have a good bargaining chip now since Red Candle Games are no longer on the Chinese Steam storefront, they might want to look for alternate sources of income.
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dnt worry the chinese will stop ranting soon and go back to gold farming so westerners can buy currency
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Ashleee: Please be nice to each other and don't intentionally derail the thread :)

Keep in mind that political discussions not related to games are not allowed.
Hi, didn't see you before... new grunt thrown to the forum frontline? Good luck :-)
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Ashleee: Please be nice to each other and don't intentionally derail the thread :)

Keep in mind that political discussions not related to games are not allowed.
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toxicTom: Hi, didn't see you before... new grunt thrown to the forum frontline? Good luck :-)
Hi, and thank you :)
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toxicTom: Hi, didn't see you before... new grunt thrown to the forum frontline? Good luck :-)
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Ashleee: Hi, and thank you :)
You also joined Discord, but you never post. :-(

We won't bite! :D

Oh and since you have a cat avatar and a potato forum title, I offer you this:
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Post edited February 25, 2019 by tinyE
Holy shit, it's gone!

Like, completely gone. Not just from the Chinese Steam storefront, but from Steam altogether.
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fronzelneekburm: Holy shit, it's gone!

Like, completely gone. Not just from the Chinese Steam storefront, but from Steam altogether.
It has been taken into detention and in a few months time will be tried for dissent.
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fronzelneekburm: Holy shit, it's gone!

Like, completely gone. Not just from the Chinese Steam storefront, but from Steam altogether.
Probably got DDOS'd, or were threatened. That's a mighty big botnet they got over there. ;p
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fronzelneekburm: Holy shit, it's gone!

Like, completely gone. Not just from the Chinese Steam storefront, but from Steam altogether.
Apparently, it's only temporary:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/auphcw/devotion_removed_from_steam/eh9nnfg/

Additional link from the Steam forums:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1006510/discussions/0/1796278072845376475/
Post edited February 26, 2019 by Grargar
Thanks for the links!

Maybe they hid a few more easter eggs and are trying to get rid of the evidence... ;P
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fronzelneekburm: Holy shit, it's gone!

Like, completely gone. Not just from the Chinese Steam storefront, but from Steam altogether.
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jjglvz: It has been taken into detention and in a few months time will be tried for dissent.
I believe the exact phraseology is:
criminal activities endangering national security
which, for ethnic Chinese (even and especially those of foreign nationality) means house surveillance (n.b., not house arrest) without the benefit of consular visitation or legal representation (apart from that which is supplied by the state, for the benefit of all citizens, taken as a whole). Like the arrest of Yang Henjun, who was transiting Guangzhou when he was arrested more than a month ago.
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BlackMageJ: I mean, yeah, this is stupid and creepy...
This small bit is a fantastic comment actually, but I also agree with the rest of your comment.

If you don't get what I mean, apply this to general internet callout culture we have nowadays and you're on the nose of what can be considered true. For instance, I've seen revenge stories are also on the rise over on YouTube. Its really getting out of hand with self-fabricated drama like this. And this is just one example of literally hundreds of things, big and small, that cause dramas daily in the online world.

Letting the internet do self-censorship by reviewbombing a video game into oblivion just proves both our points that people go too far every so often. This isn't the first time this has happened as well. YouTubers often stir the pot and say that "x is bad and you shouldn't like it", which is of course simplified but I hope you get what I mean. I've seen well reviewed games getting mixed reviews months after simply because a person online told them that a game is bad.

Its not always doom and gloom of course. For instance theres some people who actually want to discuss things rather than be inside their bubbles getting offended and angry. I guess this applies to eastern countries as well if the general internet outrage culture that exist in japan for 2 decades now serves any indication. And don't get me wrong, people are fighting this sort of thing there with irony if that one comment that Crisco1492 did serves any indication. I remember that back in 2004 or so, there was politicianporn in the US as well to combat the cynicism that comes with discussing issues like those, or at least I seem to remember.

Things really don't look good for humanity in general if people keep getting outraged by simple things like that, trying to prove who is right or not for whatever dumb reason they come up with without a discourse that doesn't end in slapping each other faces like silly clowns. I just wish that people would be more nuanced when talking online, people start to become actually unhinged if discussions are boiled down to just I don't get it/you're wrong which was definatly not the case back then, at least in the western world. Just by lurking at various online boards, most discussions seem to eat themselves in the end. Every so often, I've sometimes its just good to hear another opinion just so you know whats going on and I'm willing to bet that I'm not alone with this opinion. On the other hand, it reveals a lot of those who reviewbomb games, since they don't think the way yet want to tell the world that they're right and the developer is wrong.

What I mean with any of this should be obvious, but the matter hat hand is that there is a underlying problem that comes with all the layers of communication that the internet provides such as the ease of communicating though various forums and chat clients and how people talk to each other online who might have vastly different viewpoints freely. People don't want to simply discuss things such as their own viewpoint anymore, they want to feel like theres something big at stake and they always want to be right like its some sort of state you can be in nowadays.

However, there is one general truth I believe a lot of people might be on board. There are around 7.6 billion people on this planet, most of them with vastly different opinions. What might be true for some can be wrong for others and people should always think that usually there isn't much at stake at all. Discussing things should be to broaden your horizon so you can form a more fruitable opinion instead of declaring a state of right/wrong-ness that people have to prove or disprove all the time, like with political issues like these, but you can basically apply this to any other thing that happens online. This means that literally anything that you post online can incite drama for little reason or even no general reasons at all just because people seem to like this sort of thing. It really not a good look to the general state of affairs if you ask me.

There also is the problem that people make mountains out of molehills and thats basically what the internet nowadays does seem to represent for people. While they're real issues of inequalities and humanities that people should discuss there is a danger of people going overboard and start a fight every so often, while taking down the general quality of the discussion with them. And just like BlackMageJ said, its starting to become really fucking creepy.

Its a complex issue, one which I don't fully grasp on how to combat it. Hopefully, with the rise of dramas like those, more and more people seem to try to counter this issue, which is easy to do by just discussing things without slapping each other. Its reaching a point where people don't even want to discuss things with each other but rather they want to rail on something to be outraged against.

EDIT: Make things a little bit easier to read since the comment seem to come out quite lenghy.
Post edited February 26, 2019 by Dray2k
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Ashleee: Please be nice to each other and don't intentionally derail the thread :)
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fronzelneekburm: Can you please forward to the bizdev staff that they should try to bring Devotion and Detention here? Gog might have a good bargaining chip now since Red Candle Games are no longer on the Chinese Steam storefront, they might want to look for alternate sources of income.
Oof, still relevant. You had your wish for a couple hours today before GOG became the latest puppet to bend the knee to its communist overlords.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-12-16-cd-projekt-under-fire-for-dramatic-u-turn-on-devotion-gog-release

Also check out the Devotion wishlist page ... brutal:

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/devotion
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Butt hurt chinese snowflakes.