No it´s not

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/considering_deleting_my_gog_account/post29

Having known people who have uploaded themselves there, not knowing anyone who was uploaded there without their consent (and knowing people who were uploaded to other sites without their consent), I hesitate to believe it was a large portion, but, then again, my sample size is restrcted to the people i know.

It is reasonable to ask, though, to what ratio is truly unacceptable. I'm not going to go the covid route, because i think people are seriously under-estimating the danger of SARS-CoV-2, but we find driving on a highway and flying in an airplane as acceptable risks due to the proportions of deaths to non-deaths, so unless you want to go on a crusade against that stuff, i think we can all agree there is a ratio where acceptable risk is applied (especially since pornhub can undo some of the damage, unlike car manufactuers and airlines), but the question really does become "what is that ratio?" Did pornhub actually pass it, and what evidence do we actually have of that?

Sorry, but your comparison doesn't work. The Wolfenstein games still had Swastikas in other countries. Germany did not ban Steam as a whole because they sold uncensored versions.

Swastikas were also were not forbidden in art in Germany - which the Kulturrat admitted video games are. But I think you probably knew this, but kept it simple for the sake of the argument.

I've read the article, but I frankly don't care. Everyone knows they are operating in china.
Still I don't want to be lied to my face by a company pretending to be friendly.

I need sources/proof for that. I've bought quite a lot of game which were on the index at the time.
Selling the banned games in Germany was illegal. However sending them to Germany never was illegal and no shops ever got blacklisted for selling banned games to Germany.

I get that. But I frankly don't care or have to care. I don't want to be lied to this

Thanks, "still a metric ton", as you wrote.

Also, what exactly does the stat say? OS language? Because afaik a lot of native Cantonese people might actually use English, because they hold a grudge against "official Chinese" (Mandarin). Especially in Hong Kong English is still official language.

I don't understand how in the world cdpr didn't consider these 'gamers' will write to them about their problems with devotion. I mean, wasn't children of morta given away for free or something if you used visa for above 25 dollars a while back ?

They should stop announcing stuff without working out all the technicalities beforehand.

It's about the principle of censoring art, sacrificing it for money. The comparison is solid. It happens all the time. The scale of this is different of course. With Wolfenstein is was butchering a game to make it sellable in Germany, with Devotion it's about not publishing a game to keep making money (with other games) in China. Art loses, money wins.

I don't think your comparison is solid the difference _is_ in the scale. Also Devotion doesn't have the offending content anymore.

Unfortunately our values of pluralism and democracy also lose.

Against money? Almost always. Just look at what is promised before a vote, and what is done afterwards.

China is pulling the west around the ring on a chain through the nose... that chain is called greed, plain and simple.
But it's too late to change that.
If you do business with them, you have to follow their rules.
If you don't do business with them, someone else will, and you lose the race.

And frankly, it's not China's fault. Any entity with that amount of power would use it. When I think what some of the western big companies pulled off, ... there simply are no "good guys" that far up.

I'm aware. But sometimes values win.

If everyone had a defeatist attitude like yours we would have never overcome the middle ages. ;)

I fear we're going back to those very quickly, if I look at the state of education... only this time with smartphones and nukes...

I only have to go outside to see "Reich" flags ... and here paroles that are straight out of the Third one.

Unless you do something that damages the greed. I'm not saying it's easy, but if someone more talented than me, who actually cared, got a team together and made an overnight success and gave it away anonymously for free, so that funding denials and the like would not be able to pull weight, you'd see massive damage done to china just as quickly. The question is, how do you make the next minecraft while simultaneously making it as offensive to china as possible while still family friendly to everyone else. More or less, that's precisely the game china's playing with tiktok, so our countries are obviously prone to the tactic.

Are you from Eastern Germany?

But I agree. Civilization is fragile - that's why we can't give up easily.

The very east... a few meters more east and I'm in GOG country...

The only two things that irk me about the whole shebang are:

1. That the ones calling for the delisting were "gamers". Seriously?
2. The radio silence.

EDIT: OK, I got it, it may have to do with the almighty buck. But why blame it on "gamers" ?? Couldn't they just say something in marketspeak akin to "a reevaluation of current market conditions showed us that listing the game would not be in the best interest for our ecosystem..." Why doing this was and is so difficult?