my name is capitayn catte: Have you any idea how big the Chinese game market is?

my name is capitayn catte: "Many gamers" includes the Chinese market and it's a huge market, so I don't really see what about the tweet is untrue.

JakobFel: GOG was forced

DoomSooth: Reminds me of an episode of Sliders.

joppo: Let's imagine they told the truth. This means that Gog received A LOT of messages in just a matter of hours from their chinese customers. (Let's not beat around the bush, the only people who could have had a reason to request that game release to be canceled were from China.) Those chinese customers who currently make up only 2%* of Gog customers somehow organized themselves in a matter of hours to mass message Gog? Because it took Gog just a few, maybe 6 hours to issue the controversial lie-... errr, I mean tweet. You should also take it into account that those thousands of messages must have arrived long before the 6 hours mark because Gog's directors would need some time to panic and run around the building like headless chickens before finally deciding that Devotion shouldn't be released anymore.

* (I tried to find the source for this number but couldn't. I thought it was in the "Check these facts and numbers about Gog" thread, but I was mistaken. I still remember seeing it here. Maybe in the board report Canuck_Cat linked? I don't dare open it as there have been some firewalling of gaming media in my office recently)

Or maybe a lot of those messages do not come from Gog customers but from other chinese sources? In that case how does Gog knows if any of those massages came from a gamer? Did they attach receipts of game purchases and personal high score screenshots to their raging demand emails? Well, how sad it would be if Gog capitulated to a plain regular angry mob of CCP supporters. But either way Gog decided to call them "gamers".

It also defies credibility how fast Gog reacted from messages of supposed customers. We're talking about the moment when their support team was at their worst, swamped in refund requests, yet they miraculously hear all those complaints and communicate their bosses in an incredibly expedite fashion that is completely different from everything we know of Gog in recent years and particularly at that moment. How come? I could believe in several of those chinese customers sending messages to Gog asking them to reconsider it, but I can't believe that they would even be able to do it in time, much less be heard.

So yes, I'm calling it insulting us and putting the blame on their customers because they don't dare say it was the threats of chinese sycophants (understandable), but also want the coward way of saying it's not their fault.

"It was not the CCP shills, it was you the gamers, our customers, that demanded it". Yeah right.

GamezRanker: Even if there were really were many gamers with legitimate criticisms/complaints about GOG selling Devotion, why have the many gamers who voiced criticisms against GOG's decision(to not sell the game) seemingly not been taken into consideration by GOG?

9k+ wishlist votes, several threads on the matter, and yet GOG neither changes course nor says much of anything on the matter

ShadowAngel.207: - Giving away Tonight we Riot for free, a despicable pro-communism, pro left propaganda piece of shit

ShadowAngel.207: Do Chinks really buy ancient DOS or niche indie games?

my name is capitayn catte: I'm not sure why you'd think they would need to organise? Taiwan's independence is a seriously touchy subject in China, and the controversy about this game already existed. I'm not sure if you were joking, but you said GOG also announced the release on Weibo? That would certainly do it, no organisation necessary. Just lots of independently angry people sending GOG messages and encouraging others to do so.

And yes, I'm not pretending all of those people were GOG customers but neither you, I or GOG have any way of checking that either way. All they know is that they get a load of messages protesting. They say "gamers" because it's less formal than "potential customers", that's all. Another poorly thought out move in a string of poorly thought out moves? Very definitely, but I don't see any lying.

I think it's very odd to assume that they were referring to all of their customers when they wrote "many gamers", so I still don't see how it can be interpreted as "insulting us and putting the blame on their customers".

What we can probably deduce is that GOG got a lot more anger and in larger numbers when they announced the release than they have done from the "many gamers" tweet otherwise they would have done another U-turn.

Flaose: GOG wasn't lying.

Flaose: This is the key to everything. There was a huge backlash on Weibo from the announcement, which was invisible to most of GOG's customers and made the "many gamers" statement sound like a lie. This whole thing was handled poorly from a PR perspective but GOG wasn't lying.

my name is capitayn catte: Ahahahahaha.

borisburke: How do you know that?

GamezRanker: Side note: might be coincidence, but during every Devotion thread I noticed several Canadian users coming into them to defend GOG's actions. Make of it what you will.

Canuck_Cat: What do you think is happening? Do you think there's some sort of pattern explaining why Canadians in particular come into Devotion threads defending GOG?

DoomSooth: Might have to do with so many people of Chinese descent in Canada.

Canuck_Cat: Being Chinese in Canada doesn't necessarily mean being a CCP sympathizer if that's what you're getting at. There are plenty of Chinese people born here that behave more Canadian than Chinese. The only exclusions are the international students or people who haven't given up their Chinese citizenship yet. Maybe it's those guys who are causing this phenomenon?

But if they were, then their English skills wouldn't be as good - I know because I've had them as classmates in university. Meanwhile, the English here from Canadians is quite decent. I don't think the suggested idea is likely. Who knows, though, since ESL people's writing is significantly better than native English speaker's writing.

Flaose: Sources.