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Posted November 01, 2024
What the heck? I missed another one. Gone before I knew it was going to be delisted.

Guess checking delisting posts will be my new daily routine. ;(
Posted November 01, 2024
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HunchBluntley: Do they even commonly announce delistings like this when it happens on Zoom Platform?
Afaik they're posted in the news... Which is a better way to do it than what GOG does. As is having an actual news page.
Posted November 01, 2024
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Cynerhodon: It's always sad to see a game disappear from the store. But personally, I thank GOG for warning in advance (Steam doesn't do it).
By the way, I guess it's rarely GOG's will to remove a game from his store, but as often, the publisher's will.
The warning is not always useful because in many cases it is done so quick, there is almost no way getting a eventually good game before it has been "wiped" from the shop. I recommend a 2 week "on hold" period. Yes Steam does not even hand out a warning so it is hard to guess how many games has been "wiped" there.
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Lifthrasil: Judging from the reviews, this isn't a big loss.
"Big losses" are pretty rare because "big games" usually generate a sufficient amount of income, even on GOG, which is obviously not on par with the cash-cow known as Steam.

Although, it is always very subjective because even the most junk-game on the planet may still have a bunch of "die-hard-lovers". At least people may start to notice, you are never "alone" but i could be hard FINDING the one who as well thinks same as you do.

With anything someone love, it may eventually fade, so it is never to soon to start enjoying something. If only money is holding someone back... this is indeed the biggest misfortune someone could have, because coins in the current world are as good as unlimited... while any other stuff, including the time, is always with a strong limitation.
Post edited November 01, 2024 by Xeshra
Posted November 01, 2024
I seem to have the game in my library and the name rings a bell... but what kind of game was this again?
I usually buy games if they somehow seem interesting in their trailer and/or get good reviews, not sure if that was the case with this game or did I buy it accidentally or something.

It would be of course nice to know why it was delisted, something specific to GOG or a big multiplayer update coming or Steamworks mods etc.? Oh well...

EDIT: Watched some video review, on surface it seems kinda interesting 3D action adventure RPG something somethings ("souls-like" even mentioned), but apparently very buggy on launch and the action is very repetitive.

I wonder if it got lots of bug fixes, and whether GOG got them too? Anyway, appears that it isn't necessarily a big miss if someone missed it now...
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GamezRanker: We're still seeing games delisted more frequently than in the past. Hyperbole or no that fact is still somewhat concerning.
To me that seems natural as more and more games are in the store. More games = games get also delisted more frequently than back when GOG had only 100 games in the store. Simple mathematics or is it algebra I don't know, I always get those two mixed up. Geometry it certainly isn't! Or is it?
Post edited November 01, 2024 by timppu
Posted November 01, 2024
Its a algorithm, but the exact kind is not defined yet. Most likely it is linear in behavior (for example with every 500 games 10 may become delisted the next 5 years). Kinda sane if you ask me because if it comes to coins, this algorithm is rather exponential (for example looking at certain stocks or checking out the purse of the wealthiest around). Your lifetime on the other hand is rather "logarithmic" in nature: If you try to keep yourself in good health it may increase but just very slowly and as higher your health already is as lower the actual "increase" in lifetime and at some point in this "line" the gain is almost zero because of genetical factors that knows a clear limit.

Its a clear math... although if you do not know any number, it can be made visible using algebra. There is even some geometry involved as you see... the lines got a certain shape, so you are actually almost correct on everything.

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Post edited November 01, 2024 by Xeshra
Posted November 01, 2024
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HunchBluntley: As far as I'm concerned, it'll only be worth getting alarmed if the proportion of games currently on GOG starts to drop precipitously, or if they start losing all titles from multiple major, long-term partners like THQ Nordic, Bethesda, Activision, etc.
This is when I think shit will hit the fan....if/when a big title or series ever gets pulled. Until then I don't think many will care.
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timppu: More games = games get also delisted more frequently than back when GOG had only 100 games in the store.
Gog still had a pretty sizable number of games a few years ago and the rate of delistings wasn't as frequent. I'm not saying people should run around like headless chickens, but I still think this current trend is cause for a small amount of concern.
Post edited November 01, 2024 by GamezRanker
Posted November 01, 2024
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timppu: More games = games get also delisted more frequently than back when GOG had only 100 games in the store.
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GamezRanker: Gog still had a pretty sizable number of games a few years ago and the rate of delistings wasn't as frequent. I'm not saying people should run around like headless chickens, but I still think this current trend is cause for a small amount of concern.
I recall it was stated awhile back Gog was putting more cash towards bigger releases with a larger upfront offer then they used to.. aswell as get more games scheduled further in advance from advanced payments more then prior ...So if I both am not misremembering and if that wasn't bs claims.. then I wager thats why we have more delisting's then prior happening ..you know because well that means its quite possible Gog would iether not be as interested in keeping the games that don't bring in as much cash so not so interested in trying to renew/extend a contract to sell the games or they don't have the spare cash needed to renew the title contracts on what the rights holders want to renew the contract agreement..

Granted some delistings Gog couldn't avoid do to other legal stuff like some studio's closing doors,some studio's and publishers no longer working together.. legal rights transferred and so on but it seems the majority they could have gotten renewed
Posted November 01, 2024
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BanditKeith2: ..you know because well that means its quite possible Gog would iether not be as interested in keeping the games that don't bring in as much cash so not so interested in trying to renew/extend a contract to sell the games..
Yeah, perhaps in some cases gog is simply 'trimming the fat' re: some of the delistings. I guess we shall see in time.
Posted November 01, 2024
No clue whats going on. GOG currently got over 10 000 games, according to the newest search results; this is without much doubt the biggest amount they ever had. Most likely, the only one who got even more, on PC, is... we all know the name: Steam.

Yes, Steam got about 10 times as much but 90% of those games they got "to much" are nothing different than trash... to call it out loud, so everyone can see and hear it. There are simply so many people there, even the biggest junk may still find a few buyers... just to spell out the brutal truth. They basically got 10 times more games and not 10 times more trash, nope... 100 times more trash. On GOG most of those can not even become sold, it just does not generate sufficient coins.

EGS on the other hand got less than 1/3 of the amount GOG got, and it does not look better on other PC game stores.
Sure, Steam is a monopoly, this is the proper name. But it does not mean it is necessarily "better", this totally depends on the gamers and their needs.

Not sure how many games Sony got on PSN. but i guess it is around 10 000 so far, and Nintendo should hit around 5000.
MS store got about 2000 "real games", yet, perhaps a entire ocean of "trash-app-games for mobile"... i know there are many lovers of those mobile-app games, i am glad it is not me (else i may need to visit a doctor),

Sorry for the strong language, i just think sometimes it is time to get real.

In my experience, even with a very tolerant taste which will take into account almost any genre, there are barely more than 1000 awesome games and perhaps another 1000 great or at least very solid games, not much more. I would say in total i already own about half of the awesome/great games; so i am actually happy with the current results.
Post edited November 01, 2024 by Xeshra
Posted November 03, 2024
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Xeshra: No clue whats going on. GOG currently got over 10 000 games, according to the newest search results; this is without much doubt the biggest amount they ever had. Most likely, the only one who got even more, on PC, is... we all know the name: Steam.

Yes, Steam got about 10 times as much but 90% of those games they got "to much" are nothing different than trash... to call it out loud, so everyone can see and hear it. There are simply so many people there, even the biggest junk may still find a few buyers... just to spell out the brutal truth. They basically got 10 times more games and not 10 times more trash, nope... 100 times more trash. On GOG most of those can not even become sold, it just does not generate sufficient coins.

EGS on the other hand got less than 1/3 of the amount GOG got, and it does not look better on other PC game stores.
Sure, Steam is a monopoly, this is the proper name. But it does not mean it is necessarily "better", this totally depends on the gamers and their needs.

Not sure how many games Sony got on PSN. but i guess it is around 10 000 so far, and Nintendo should hit around 5000.
MS store got about 2000 "real games", yet, perhaps a entire ocean of "trash-app-games for mobile"... i know there are many lovers of those mobile-app games, i am glad it is not me (else i may need to visit a doctor),

Sorry for the strong language, i just think sometimes it is time to get real.

In my experience, even with a very tolerant taste which will take into account almost any genre, there are barely more than 1000 awesome games and perhaps another 1000 great or at least very solid games, not much more. I would say in total i already own about half of the awesome/great games; so i am actually happy with the current results.
When you hit'' hide dlcs and extras '' you cut that number nearly in half given you end up with then '' 6573 '' games and its safe to minus about 80 or so more at the very least given on gog bundled games and different editions of games are shown as seperate game listings
Posted November 03, 2024
True, but same may count for any other platform. You can not honestly say "Steam got 100 000" games", main while for me it is hard even to find 1000 awesome and another 1000 solid or up to great games... even on Steam.

So, realistically... those numbers are always with a good amount of garbage involved. I would say the real numbers for every platform are not much more than half of what can "officially" be found there.
Post edited November 03, 2024 by Xeshra
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