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Posted April 28, 2016
UPDATE: Heads up! There are 24h left, so now is the time to take advantage of the amazing deals and upgrade your collections. Eyes on the price, Boo, eyes on the price!



Years ago, the Baldur's Gate series changed the way we look at gaming and the scope of what was considered possible. Even now, the legacy continues through the Enhanced Editions – thanks to the hard work and years of updates to keep the inimitable Infinity Engine living on.



It's the work on the Enhanced Editions that made <span class="bold">Siege of Dragonspear</span> possible – the just-released, massive expansion to the timeless classic, available only for Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition.

"The team at Beamdog was able to breathe a new life into the Infinity Engine classics." says Greg Tito, Communications Director for Dungeons & Dragons "We're proud to recognize their excellent work in offering the best possible experience and support for these legendary titles. We want these to become the definitive editions – featuring both the enhanced and classic versions of the games."

On April 29, Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition, Baldur's Gate II: Enhanced Edition, and Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition will be expanded to include the classic versions – each becoming the Definitive Edition Bundle and not available for purchase separately. If you already own the classics on GOG.com, the games currently on your shelf won't be affected.

"We're excited to take our commitment and support to Baldur's Gate and GOG fans to the next level and humbled to work with such great partners. The Definitive Edition Bundle will give every Baldur's Gate fan what they're looking for" – concludes Cameron Tofer, Beamdog COO.



In the near future, we're also looking forward to full GOG Galaxy support for achievements in Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition, Baldur's Gate II: Enhanced Edition, and Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition – as well as in the Baldur's Gate: Siege of Dragonspear expansion.

Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition will be 75% off until April 4 11:59 PM PDT / April 5 2:59 AM EDT/ 7:59 BST and 60% off until April 29 10:59 AM PDT / 1:59 PM EDT / 18:59 BST. The 60% discount for Baldur's Gate II: Enhanced Edition, and Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition until April 29 10:59 AM PDT / 1:59 PM EDT / 18:59 BST. The 85% discount for owners of the original saga will last until April 29 10:59 AM PDT / 1:59 PM EDT / 18:59 BST.
Post edited April 02, 2016 by maladr0Id
Posted May 01, 2016
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javier0889: I think some of you are missing the fact that Beamdog is trying to capitalize on stuff they never did, by claiming it as it was made by them. Don't even bring games like Redguard or System Shock as examples because they were added under different circumstances. Beamdog is effectively deleting an important part of gaming history and you're all praising them for I don't know what reason. Honestly, I'd rather give my money to Activision, EA and Ubisoft by purchasing old games that still belong to them instead of giving anything to Beamdog. At least the earlier are devils I know. It's an ugly case of bullying against users and against people who care about games in general,as ugly and dirty as the circumstances of Bethesda stealing Fallout back in the early 00s.
Exactly. I thought it was bad enough they made those horrible games erroneously called "Enhanced" editions, only making money off of the great name that is (was?) Baldur's Gate. To now try to make even more by removing the option to buy the proper game is an incredibly douchebag move. Either by Shitedog, or GOG, or both. It was bad enough that people got lured into paying double for a worse product, but now the original game is IMPOSSIBLE to buy on its own. You need to pay double what they cost. It's staggering that people are fine with this, and even praising them for it. "Yay, we get to pay double, and have less choice. AWESOME!!!1!"

These games are the reason I came to GOG. Nothing else. I will not buy anything else here after this. GOG have made poor choices for a long while now, but this was the Empire State Building that broke the camel's back.
Posted May 01, 2016
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Wow, I only noticed this now but I really hate Beamdog now. The only reason this is happening is to drive the sales of the Enhanced Editions, because I bet a lot of people were buying the original games instead of the Enhanced Editions. With the original games being cheaper, Beamdog got less money. Now if you want to play the classics and didn't own them already, you need to pay more (about double the price, I'm guessing). If Beamdog only added the originals to the Enhanced Editions without removing the originals from sale, I'd be praising Beamdog. Sadly that did not happen.

What a despisable, greedy move, Beamdog. I'll vote with my wallet and I hope others do the same.
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titmo: I refuse to purchase anything from GOG until they undo this and just let me buy the original games. Ans if they never do, that's ok with me too. There are plenty of other sites to buy games from...
Sadly I don't think GOG can do anything about this. GOG can't force anyone to sell something specific here. Blame Beamdog, not GOG. That said, I'd probably by happier with GOG not selling any of the games in any form rather than accepting this. While GOG can't force anyone to sell something here, GOG can also refuse to sell something here.
Post edited May 01, 2016 by Zkuq
Posted May 01, 2016
Now Beamdog needs to put these enhanced editions on 80-90% sales to reach original versions legacy and sales rate.
Posted May 01, 2016
I hope you guys realise Beamdog will not care about the minority ( i mean Gog community ) untill the EE series is successfull on Steam .
Posted May 01, 2016
Is it the end of the world again already? -breaks out umbrella in anticipation of the sky falling-
Posted May 01, 2016
I guess I question if the person who wants to play Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale in 2016 but hasn't already bought those games in the 5 or so years they've been available on GOG gives a shit about the differences between the originals and the Enhanced Editions. Don't get me wrong, it's a lame and gross anti-consumer move that probably made sense to someone wearing a suit, but I also think that anyone who cares about the original versions of these games already owns the original versions of these games and thus isn't affected.
Posted May 01, 2016
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javier0889: I think some of you are missing the fact that Beamdog is trying to capitalize on stuff they never did, by claiming it as it was made by them. Don't even bring games like Redguard or System Shock as examples because they were added under different circumstances. Beamdog is effectively deleting an important part of gaming history and you're all praising them for I don't know what reason. Honestly, I'd rather give my money to Activision, EA and Ubisoft by purchasing old games that still belong to them instead of giving anything to Beamdog. At least the earlier are devils I know. It's an ugly case of bullying against users and against people who care about games in general,as ugly and dirty as the circumstances of Bethesda stealing Fallout back in the early 00s.
Can you point me to where Beamdog take responsibility for the merging? No, you just assume so because they are the publishers of the Enhanced Edition. Thing is, they are not the owners. Hasbro are.
Post edited May 01, 2016 by Grargar
Posted May 01, 2016
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My two cents in here. GOG, if you have any sway in this, please allow the originally games to be sold separately. Many prefer the original. I understand GOG is a business, but I purchase games on GOG with the expectation that the games will be original or at least only altered to the point of getting the game running on a modern system and I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks this way. People should have a choice between the two versions and not be forced to buy one to get the other. We should preserve availability of the original game. It was a masterpiece by Bioware. If someone wants to peddle an alternate version, fine, but they should have the confidence and courage in their product to not lock the original as an extra in the alternate version of the game.
Posted May 01, 2016
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javier0889: I think some of you are missing the fact that Beamdog is trying to capitalize on stuff they never did, by claiming it as it was made by them. Don't even bring games like Redguard or System Shock as examples because they were added under different circumstances. Beamdog is effectively deleting an important part of gaming history and you're all praising them for I don't know what reason. Honestly, I'd rather give my money to Activision, EA and Ubisoft by purchasing old games that still belong to them instead of giving anything to Beamdog. At least the earlier are devils I know. It's an ugly case of bullying against users and against people who care about games in general,as ugly and dirty as the circumstances of Bethesda stealing Fallout back in the early 00s.
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Grargar: Can you point me to where Beamdog take responsibility for the merging? No, you just assume so because they are the publishers of the Enhanced Edition. Thing is, they are not the owners. Hasbro are.
Personally, I really doubt Hasbro just decided to do this all of a sudden without the urging of Beamdog.
Posted May 01, 2016
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plan99: Personally, I really doubt Hasbro just decided to do this all of a sudden without the urging of Beamdog.
I doubt it was all of a sudden, especially since it was Hasbro themselves that only allowed the creation of Siege of Dragonspear as an expansion instead of a standalone game. At that point, they might have considered that their versions sold on GOG wouldn't be compatible with the new expansion and since they would end up promoting Siege of Dragonspear, they wanted to eliminate the possibility of people buying the old versions and then being unable to purchase the expansion This might also explain why the fusion occurred during the release period of Siege of Dragonspear instead of, say, during the release of the Enhanced Editions here.

But, it's all conjecture as to who first brought up the idea of the fusion. Even if it was Beamdog, they couldn't have done this without Hasbro's greenlight.
Post edited May 01, 2016 by Grargar
Posted May 01, 2016
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Pangaea666: These games are the reason I came to GOG. Nothing else. I will not buy anything else here after this. GOG have made poor choices for a long while now, but this was the Empire State Building that broke the camel's back.
I do find it a bit ironic that the reason I *discovered* GOG (and in turn ended up spending a rather large amount of money here, certainly far more than I have on any other digital distribution site of games, music, videos, etc.) was because of the original Interplay Fallout games and Baldur's Gate games. I'm pretty sure they were my first purchases here and I was impressed that someone had bothered to get the rights to great old classics like Sierra's adventures that until then were only obtainable via abandonware sites, as they weren't even sold by their rights owners anymore.

Now GOG seems to focus more on new indie games, whether it's because they've run out of classics (they do have most of them!) or just because they want a slice of Steam's action (don't get me wrong, I'm very happy as a lot of indie games I'd never buy if they were only on Steam!), but it has also led to much higher price tags to keep devs/publishers happy, price differences for other countries, and of course more publisher interference (compare Bethesda's treatment of their titles here to Interplay's back in the day).

That Beamdog can theoretically say "we own those classic games made by someone else now and we don't want them sold openly anymore to compete with our more expensive versions" is not GOG's fault, IMO, but a sad side-effect of how GOG has changed and expanded over the past few years.
Posted May 01, 2016
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ArbitraryWater: I guess I question if the person who wants to play Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale in 2016 but hasn't already bought those games in the 5 or so years they've been available on GOG gives a shit about the differences between the originals and the Enhanced Editions. Don't get me wrong, it's a lame and gross anti-consumer move that probably made sense to someone wearing a suit, but I also think that anyone who cares about the original versions of these games already owns the original versions of these games and thus isn't affected.
Except for GOG newcomers. Thankfully I saw the announcement, so I bought the two Baldur's Gate and the two Icewind Dale at full price about two weeks ago, kind of reluctantly because I had planned to buy them during a sale. (Not that they aren't worth full price but, you know.)

I'm generally against remasters and things like that. I prefer the raw, original versions of games to experience them like I would have back when they were released. I'm fine if it's only bug fixes and improvements, though I would rather get a patch for that rather than a "new" game.

I especially do not want to support people who ruined and altered one of the greatest fantasy worlds to incorporate some modern reality. If they want to talk about things like that, they should make a game of their own (preferably set in actual times to avoid historical inaccuracy) instead of butchering a known and revered franchise.
Posted May 01, 2016
What I really hate about this merging is that now we cant see all those beautiful reviews about the original games. I really really really hate that.
Posted May 01, 2016
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Grargar: Snio
You're using logic in a thread that has become largely devoid of logic.
Posted May 01, 2016
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hummer010: You're using logic in a thread that has become largely devoid of logic.
Something hope something last. :P
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