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Posted April 28, 2016
UPDATE: Heads up! There are 24h left, so now is the time to take advantage of the amazing deals and upgrade your collections. Eyes on the price, Boo, eyes on the price!



Years ago, the Baldur's Gate series changed the way we look at gaming and the scope of what was considered possible. Even now, the legacy continues through the Enhanced Editions – thanks to the hard work and years of updates to keep the inimitable Infinity Engine living on.



It's the work on the Enhanced Editions that made <span class="bold">Siege of Dragonspear</span> possible – the just-released, massive expansion to the timeless classic, available only for Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition.

"The team at Beamdog was able to breathe a new life into the Infinity Engine classics." says Greg Tito, Communications Director for Dungeons & Dragons "We're proud to recognize their excellent work in offering the best possible experience and support for these legendary titles. We want these to become the definitive editions – featuring both the enhanced and classic versions of the games."

On April 29, Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition, Baldur's Gate II: Enhanced Edition, and Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition will be expanded to include the classic versions – each becoming the Definitive Edition Bundle and not available for purchase separately. If you already own the classics on GOG.com, the games currently on your shelf won't be affected.

"We're excited to take our commitment and support to Baldur's Gate and GOG fans to the next level and humbled to work with such great partners. The Definitive Edition Bundle will give every Baldur's Gate fan what they're looking for" – concludes Cameron Tofer, Beamdog COO.



In the near future, we're also looking forward to full GOG Galaxy support for achievements in Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition, Baldur's Gate II: Enhanced Edition, and Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition – as well as in the Baldur's Gate: Siege of Dragonspear expansion.

Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition will be 75% off until April 4 11:59 PM PDT / April 5 2:59 AM EDT/ 7:59 BST and 60% off until April 29 10:59 AM PDT / 1:59 PM EDT / 18:59 BST. The 60% discount for Baldur's Gate II: Enhanced Edition, and Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition until April 29 10:59 AM PDT / 1:59 PM EDT / 18:59 BST. The 85% discount for owners of the original saga will last until April 29 10:59 AM PDT / 1:59 PM EDT / 18:59 BST.
Post edited April 02, 2016 by maladr0Id
Posted April 29, 2016
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hummer010: Hasbro owns Baldurs Gate. Neither Beamdog nor GOG can choose to bundle the originals.

Me too. I haven't played the originals since the EEs came out.
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revanbh: Either way, it is pretty low move. It's not that I don't like Enhanced Editions, I do. I'm having a blast playing through BG:EE right now, with the intention of exporting my character to SoD and BG2: EE. But having a choice is always better.
I disagree that it's a low move. A low move would have been to just bundle the games with no announcement. Instead they gave nearly a months notice that the originals would no longer be available separately and they put both the originals, and the EE's on sale.
Posted April 29, 2016
I guess I'm one of the few around here who doesn't own the originals (sorry for the sacrilege), having registered recently and waiting for a discount.

I've been hoping for a classics promo since they announced this, kind of a last chance and goodbye promo. My only hope now is that they get included in one of the last bundles during this sale (maybe today? One can dream). Otherwise I don't think I'll be playing them anytime soon (or ever at all) because:

1) Sorry, I want to play the classics.
2) Sorry, I'm not paying full price, specially when whoever is responsible for this is about to pull this shady move on me/us.
1 + 2) No way I'm buying the more expensive "enhanced" edition to play the classics.

I don't see any logic behind this decision. They expect to sell more EE to people who just want the classics? Good luck with that, at least from me. I'd rather not play the games than support this "marketing technique". I still have a long backlog and wishlist to play before being that desperate.

Anyway, I'm aware I'm not the average GOG user and probably not the target of whoever is doing this. There must be only 2 or 3 of us who don't own the originals yet and have them just wishlisted :-D

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hummer010: Instead they gave nearly a months notice that the originals would no longer be available separately and they put both the originals, and the EE's on sale.
Except they haven't put the originals on sale, have they? Or have I terribly missed it?
Post edited April 29, 2016 by nepundo
Posted April 29, 2016
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Not really sure who this will appeal to. BG/IWD veterans already have the classics and will probably never buy those subpar "Enhanced" editions (let alone that horrendous expansion). I also doubt many people without the nostalgia effect will actually buy these, so you're not getting all that many new fans either... If it's not a forced decision from whoever holds the copyright, it's straight up stupid.
Posted April 29, 2016
I think I have them all already (well not the new expansion, which I will hold off on). No complaints here... (Now if the bundle sale would actually have a couple games from my wishlist....)
Posted April 29, 2016
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npalsensei: Not really sure who this will appeal to.
Me :D
Posted April 29, 2016
Uh, the thread is up again. I still don't understand what exactly is the problem here. The old versions are not gone, they are just bundled together with the enhanced editions at a higher main price. At the end it's the question how often and at which discount the bundles will go on sale, but everyone still has the option to decide which version he wants to play or not.

Btw, I think to bundle both editions isn't a bad idea. Many new players who heard about these classics will more likely prefer the enhanced editions, mostly as they are easier to get into it thanks to the installed mods. They also get the classic versions and so the option to mod the games after the time Beamdog stopped the support. So for new folks it's for sure a better deal then before, except maybe the higher main price.
Post edited April 29, 2016 by DukeNukemForever
Posted April 29, 2016
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Imago: Will the Siege of Dragonspear be included into this bundle or it will be possible to buy it separatly?
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Grargar: There is no mention that it will be included, so you'll have to buy it separately.
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terriblegregory: Will the original versions and the new editions be available as separate downloads? I don't have the money to pick up the original versions of these games right now but I really want to play them and my PC can't run the new editions.
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Grargar: Everything so far indicates that, yes, they will be separate downloads (not purchases).
Hey, thank you!
Posted April 29, 2016
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dtgreene: Except that cis is not an abbreviation.
It is. STFU you amerocentric bigot.
Posted April 29, 2016
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a4plz: Yeah, that's the whole connotation: that you can't take a person seriously if they identify as progressive while trying to suppress freedom of expression, one of the most fragile rights in human history.

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dtgreene: In any case, I think there shouldn't be a term with those connotations used.
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a4plz: Accurate ones? :3
Shhhhhhh you might offend someone and then the world will end!
Well according to the SJW Bible anyways.........
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dtgreene: Except that cis is not an abbreviation.
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Starmaker: It is. STFU you amerocentric bigot.
Oh noes! The end is clearly drawing near!
Post edited April 29, 2016 by Reaper9988
Posted April 29, 2016
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dtgreene: Your freedom ends when it infringes on mine, in general.

For example, you are not free to assault others, because doing so deprives people of their freedoms.

(I should also note that the particular three letter abbreviation is a strong signal that the person using it is a bigot.)
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AccurateArt: I'd be alright with people expressing all forms of speech (I encourage this in my classroom). The only thing I ask is that people who express opinions on an issue be ready to back them up when challenged. Where I become confused here is that you are essentially arguing that we ought to ban this person from expressing himself, yet you are arguing for freedom ("your freedom ends when it infringes on mine"). I think you can see why someone like myself might be a bit confused about this given that what you are arguing does not promote freedom in any sense.

Onto the current topic of discussion:
This certainly does sound like an odd way to go about it - removing options from the consumer. Why not just keep the current arrangement where you sell the games separately? I did not hear anyone complaining about it :)
People are free to say what they want. But they're not free from repercussions, including others thinking they are assholes and wishing them well away.

No one is arguing that others should not express themselves. They are saying that they are tired of the in-your-face, every-thread-remotely-related-gets-derailed angry jerk tactics employed by some people and wish those people would go express themselves elsewhere.

This is a private space (i.e. owned in the private sector, not government-run). If people feel that others are disrupting their experience, it's perfectly compatible with supporting free speech to want them to leave.
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a4plz: Yeah, that's the whole connotation: that you can't take a person seriously if they identify as progressive while trying to suppress freedom of expression, one of the most fragile rights in human history.

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dtgreene: In any case, I think there shouldn't be a term with those connotations used.
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a4plz: Accurate ones? :3
Wanting others to behave in public, or even too simply not be where one is, is not suppressing freedom of expression.

Censorship looks like this: The government calls a publication and makes them change their articles.

Suppressing freedom of speech looks like this: a whole group of people band together to attack, harass and slander people over their artistic vision.

This is not censorship or suppressing anything: I wish these people would go away because I find their behavior offensive.

Differences between 1 and everything else: The government

Differences between 3 and 2: Politeness, maturity, and not dictating what other people do.
Post edited April 29, 2016 by Gilozard
Posted April 29, 2016
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DrearierSpider: Did the exact same thing, no regrets whatsoever. Originals still work fine, if not ideally.
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jalister: The originals can be technologically improved, but the story, characters and dialog should be left alone.
Exactly. Let's call this how it is: these hacks aren't talented enough to create an original IP that will stand up and succeed on it's own merits, so they have to rely on one of gaming's most successful existing ones. Not only that, but they have the audacity to say to fans' faces "some of the original characters were written incorrectly, according to our political & social beliefs that is, so we're going to alter their personalities & behaviors to align with those and too bad for anyone who doesn't like it"? How in the hell did they think that was going to fly?

They also originally accused fans who were criticizing Minsc's now removed quote as "jumping on the GamerGate/KotakuInAction bandwagon." However you feel about those controversies, to act like they shouldn't have expected a reaction when directly referencing the damn issue is incredibly stupid.

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DrearierSpider: Originals still work fine, if not ideally.
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: My sentiments exactly... "Don't *fix* what is NOT *broken*"...
Funny anecdote: my first time playing BG1:EE, the script for the very first quest in the starting tutorial village (where you're delivering the scroll) was broken and couldn't be completed. It's worth noting that this was ~3 years ago now, but I can not fathom how they managed to break a quest that occurs five whole minutes into the game and was working just fine in the original release from ~15 years ago (at the time).
Posted April 29, 2016
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drmfro: snip
You clearly have no idea what a fascist is. You might want to educate yourself before tossing political terms around - it'll do you a world of good.
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bigsilverhotdog: I'm fairly certain in this context SJW / regressive liberal is used to describe reactionaries who pay lip service to progressivism and liberalism so they can use them as a shield while they push their own agendas (which are invariably neither progressive nor liberal).

Correct me if I'm wrong.
SJW has been used so widely at this point that it means 'anyone whose social/political opinions I disagree with, and seems more liberal than I am'. It's not a useful term. Banning it would at least help keep the flame wars down a little bit, IMO.
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bigsilverhotdog: Another day, another super shady dick move by GOG. Is nothing sacred anymore? FFFS.

Yes, For Fucking Fucks Sake.
As has been pointed out multiple times, including on this very page, GOG does not control the rights and probably had nothing to do with this decision.
Post edited April 29, 2016 by Gilozard
Posted April 29, 2016
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DrearierSpider: Exactly. Let's call this how it is: these hacks aren't talented enough to create an original IP that will stand up and succeed on it's own merits, so they have to rely on one of gaming's most successful existing ones. Not only that, but they have the audacity to say to fans' faces "some of the original characters were written incorrectly, according to our political & social beliefs that is, so we're going to alter their personalities & behaviors to align with those and too bad for anyone who doesn't like it"? How in the hell did they think that was going to fly?
Ya pretty much this.
Posted April 29, 2016
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Gilozard: You clearly have no idea what a fascist is. You might want to educate yourself before tossing political terms around - it'll do you a world of good.
This old saw again. You would have been better to provide an example of fascism instead of just appealing to sophistication. If you don't know about that fallacy, you might want to educate yourself.

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Gilozard: SJW has been used so widely at this point that it means 'anyone whose social/political opinions I disagree with, and seems more liberal than I am'. It's not a useful term. Banning it would at least help keep the flame wars down a little bit, IMO.
Banning disagreeable words would appear to be a most popular cause for SJW types. #BanBossy
Posted April 29, 2016
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GOG.com: On April 29, Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition, Baldur's Gate II: Enhanced Edition, and Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition will be expanded to include the classic versions – each becoming the Definitive Edition Bundle and not available for purchase separately. If you already own the classics on GOG.com, the games currently on your shelf won't be affected.
This is EXTREMELY disgusting! I hope somebody at GOG central god sucked off, because this is an unfathomable decision otherwise.

"Years ago, in an ancient land long forgotten, GOG didn't suck arse."

How times change :(
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General discussionUpdate: 60% / 85% off Enhanced Editions: Baldur's Gate I & II, Icewind Dale
Original & Enhanced to become the Definitive Edition Bundle (822 posts)(822 posts)
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