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Posted December 23, 2017
A day ago I asked some advice about Darkest Dungeon, but I guess nobody noticed my post, so I'm starting this thread.

Since its release I've been intrigued by Darkest Dungeon. I love the artwork, the turn-based combat, the progression system, the Lovecraft setting, and that GODLY narrator voice.

However it had always been a little more expensive than I was willing to spend. When it reached the 60% discount I was ready to get it, but that happened after the release of the DLC, and that's when I noticed some worrying reviews. Apparently the developers made some changes to the items and hero skills in the game, in order to balance the elements by the DLC. Unfortunately they also applied these nerfs to the base game, even if you lacked the DLC, which made the game too difficult.

I ask of those of you that have played the balanced base game, without the DLC, what is your opinion on the current state of the game. Do you find the reviews to be accurate?

I'd love to play the game, as long as I can play the game. :) If it's indeed too difficult, I wait until I can also buy the DLC at a price I'd feel comfortable at.

NOTE: I intentionally did not mark this thread as a question, because I'm asking for personal opinions. So please don't attack others opinions, by staying away from memes such as "get gud" and "filthy casuals".

Note 2: I'm hoping the reviews are from people frustrated with the changed, due to the negative impact on their ongoing playthroughs. It would be understandable for them to be angry, should their current game became unwinnable, just because the developers nerfed their build, which they had worked on for 10-20 hours.
Posted December 23, 2017
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MadalinStroe: A day ago I asked some advice about Darkest Dungeon, but I guess nobody noticed my post, so I'm starting this thread.

Since its release I've been intrigued by Darkest Dungeon. I love the artwork, the turn-based combat, the progression system, the Lovecraft setting, and that GODLY narrator voice.

However it had always been a little more expensive than I was willing to spend. When it reached the 60% discount I was ready to get it, but that happened after the release of the DLC, and that's when I noticed some worrying reviews. Apparently the developers made some changes to the items and hero skills in the game, in order to balance the elements by the DLC. Unfortunately they also applied these nerfs to the base game, even if you lacked the DLC, which made the game too difficult.

I ask of those of you that have played the balanced base game, without the DLC, what is your opinion on the current state of the game. Do you find the reviews to be accurate?

I'd love to play the game, as long as I can play the game. :) If it's indeed too difficult, I wait until I can also buy the DLC at a price I'd feel comfortable at.

NOTE: I intentionally did not mark this thread as a question, because I'm asking for personal opinions. So please don't attack others opinions, by staying away from memes such as "get gud" and "filthy casuals".

Note 2: I'm hoping the reviews are from people frustrated with the changed, due to the negative impact on their ongoing playthroughs. It would be understandable for them to be angry, should their current game became unwinnable, just because the developers nerfed their build, which they had worked on for 10-20 hours.
Personally I love the game and have been playing only DD since I got it from Humble Bundle. While I would say it definitely is tough when starting out, learning the mechanics of the game (eg. stress, light levels etc...) and starting over only makes the game more satisfying once you 'get the hang of things'

I should mention too that I have never watched a video/playthrough so I was totally new to the experience and I also held out waiting for a better discount on Darkest Dungeon. Having now played it I would recommend it to anyone who enjoys turn-based combat and RPG's

As you would be starting new, I don't think you would be bothered by changes that have already been implemented as you haven't played the game previously right?

Not that you want to know about the DLC but............

I have also purchased the Shieldbreaker and Crimson Court DLC and can say that after activating the DLC it definitely changes things up a lot. The Crimson Court is especially game-changing. I had heard many negative comments on the impact of this DLC and I can understand why there is a level of negativity. For me, I found it incredibly difficult early on but now I find the additions to be well worth it for the extra variety and game-mechanics introduced. The Epic quests are extremely satisfying when beaten.

The first time I beat the Baron was the most satisfying gaming moment for me in the past year ;)

Anyway, hope this helps you somewhat.

If you do decide to purchase I would like to hear your thoughts once you've spent enough time getting to grips with the game ;)
Posted December 23, 2017
Personally, I see this game on a similar level you can expect from FTL, but not THAT difficult. Still, it was never meant to be easy or straightforward. I have yet to try the new version while not having the aforementioned DLC, so my opinion is rather out of date.
Posted December 23, 2017
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mighty.ape.acct: ...
Thank you! That's the type of response I was hoping for. I'll most likely end up getting it. If I end up with enough free time during the holidays I'll want to start a playthrough.
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I actually really liked FTL, and I didn't find it difficult at all. Maybe I've been overthinking things with Darkest Dungeon.
Post edited December 23, 2017 by MadalinStroe
Posted December 23, 2017
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MadalinStroe: Thank you! That's the type of response I was hoping for. I'll most likely end up getting it. If I end up with enough free time during the holidays I'll want to start a playthrough.

I actually really liked FTL, and I didn't find it difficult at all. Maybe I've been overthinking things with Darkest Dungeon.
If you get it, I'd recommend starting on the Radiant mode. It's offers the fastest progression to keep things from getting stale, though you can play on the harder difficulty if you prefer taking it a little slower.
I don't own the DLC so I can't say anything about the changes there, but the base game plays fine by itself; it's not a spectacularly hard game if you've played combat oriented RPGs before. I do know that if you buy the DLC as well you can pick and choose what elements of it you want to play with, so if you feel like parts of ruin your enjoyment you can turn them off.

There's also a for it on the nexus, for if you get bored with the official content: https://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/
Posted December 24, 2017
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Fortuk: If you get it, I'd recommend starting on the Radiant mode. It's offers the fastest progression to keep things from getting stale, though you can play on the harder difficulty if you prefer taking it a little slower.
I don't own the DLC so I can't say anything about the changes there, but the base game plays fine by itself; it's not a spectacularly hard game if you've played combat oriented RPGs before. I do know that if you buy the DLC as well you can pick and choose what elements of it you want to play with, so if you feel like parts of ruin your enjoyment you can turn them off.

There's also a for it on the nexus, for if you get bored with the official content: https://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/
I heard about radiant mode, but until I try it out to see how the default progression is, I don't think I'll have a need for it. I love slow, methodical games, so considering that LordEbu compared the difficulty to FTL, it seems that I'll be more than able to handle Darkest Dungeon. As far as the fan created content, thank you for the link, but I remember that I was excited to try the official mod for Defender's Quest, but by the time I had finished the game's campaign, I was more than satisfied with my time spent. This reminds me, I should also retry the remastered version of Defender's Quest.
Posted December 24, 2017
I've been playing Darkest Dungeon like 7hs and I don't know if still with save 1, save 2 or start from zero again.. banckrupty or mind illness heroes are common in my games ^^
My simply solution is let them die or fired them. If your economy has risen and your buildings had been upgraded, it worth it.

(not DLC! I hate DLC in most cases. I "like"* when a DLC expand the game (usually when you already had beaten the game)

(*) it would be better to have the full game in first buy, of course :P
Post edited December 24, 2017 by nicohvc
Posted December 24, 2017
From what I've heard, the Crimson Court is best left alone until you're high level, because after visiting, apparently the monsters start infecting your regular game dungeons. However, the idea of "districts" to expand your hamlet intrigues me enough to consider the DLC.
Posted January 03, 2018
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mighty.ape.acct: If you do decide to purchase I would like to hear your thoughts once you've spent enough time getting to grips with the game ;)
Well my free, end of the year, days are over, and I've spent about 20 hours with Darkest Dungeon. Until now, my favorite character is the Antiquarian. Doing a single level 1 medium-large dungeon, easily nets you 20k-30k gold, which has really helped me keep all my heroes sane and disease free. I've tried to raid the Cove twice, and both times were spectacularly disastrous. The Cove is by far my most hated area in the game. Until now, I've always had to end my raids early, whenever I've run into the Collector. He always crits me like a beast and I had to retreat. I've spent most of my time trying to maximize the heirlooms I get from my runs in order to upgrade the town. I've had only three heroes die, which isn't all that bad considering this is the first time I've played DD. They all died very early in my playthrough, and I've gotten pretty good at avoiding any further deaths. I've been using the DD wiki to find solutions to all of the questions I've had about the game mechanics.
Posted January 03, 2018
Congrats! Are you playing the base game?
Posted January 03, 2018
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Starmaker: Congrats! Are you playing the base game?
Yes, just the base game, I haven't bought any of the DLC.
Post edited January 03, 2018 by MadalinStroe
Posted January 03, 2018
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nicohvc: I've been playing Darkest Dungeon like 7hs and I don't know if still with save 1, save 2 or start from zero again.. banckrupty or mind illness heroes are common in my games ^^
My simply solution is let them die or fired them. If your economy has risen and your buildings had been upgraded, it worth it.

(not DLC! I hate DLC in most cases. I "like"* when a DLC expand the game (usually when you already had beaten the game)

(*) it would be better to have the full game in first buy, of course :P
The best option is to treat your heroes as disposable for the most part. Unless you get a REALLY good set of RNG stats, it's best not to invest in any of them and let them rot away in a dungeon, or dismiss them when they've gone over the edge. Save the really good ones. Don't send all of the really good ones out on important excursions at the same time, use them as party leaders with 1 or 2 at most in your group. Once you get so far, the cost of saving your people will be less than 90% of your income and it gets a little easier to balance out your money between healing, upgrades, and supplies, but you'll still need a healthy rotation.
Posted January 03, 2018
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MadalinStroe: Unfortunately they also applied these nerfs to the base game, even if you lacked the DLC, which made the game too difficult.
I tried it without any DLC and well... It is difficult, but it is playable. Just any Roguelike game it punishes you for mistakes so if you don't want to scrap your first walkthrough - watch some guides in youtube.
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MadalinStroe: I'd love to play the game, as long as I can play the game. :) If it's indeed too difficult, I wait until I can also buy the DLC at a price I'd feel comfortable at.
Well, you can always try in-dev game Deep Sky Derelicts which is Darkest Dungeon mixed with a deck builder: https://www.gog.com/game/deep_sky_derelicts

And because it is in-dev status - there is no DLC right now. :)
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Fortuk: There's also a for it on the nexus, for if you get bored with the official content: https://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/
YES! Thank you! I just started to thinking that Darkest Dungeon is would be great if converted to Space Hulk game and here it is - Spacemarines! Right here: https://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/554/?
Post edited January 03, 2018 by Andrey82
Posted January 03, 2018
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Andrey82: Well, you can always try in-dev game Deep Sky Derelicts which is Darkest Dungeon mixed with a deck builder: https://www.gog.com/game/deep_sky_derelicts

And because it is in-dev status - there is no DLC right now. :)
You must have missed my latest post, were I mentioned some of the things that happened over my 20 hours of playing Darkest Dungeon.

As far as Deep Sky Derelicts, I'll wait for it to be launched and reviewed, before I make my decision on buying it. Having said that, it does look great and if it's even a fraction as good as Darkest Dungeon I'll enjoy playing it.

EDIT: Also, just spreading the news, I've just found out about this game, currently in early development: Iratus: Lord of the Dead
Post edited January 03, 2018 by MadalinStroe
Posted March 18, 2018
I had this topic "bookmarked" since its start but I managed to get Darkest Dungeon only a few weeks ago.

The first reason I'm posting here is: I have base game and two official DLCs but I'm playing without any DLCs at this moment and I can confirm that the current version of the game (build 21142) is very playable and is one of the top games I've ever played.

The second reason I'm posting here (which is more important to me) is: What saddens me the most is the content of the official GOG's Darkest Dungeon forum - yes, it has some topics but in general it is a desert (or maybe I should use the word wasteland) as most of the posts are about bugs, issues and crashes... Where are the posts about tips, tactics and strategies?

I would gladly take part in such discussions so I encourage everyone above and other players to share his/her experiences and knowledge on aforementioned forum. It's a shame that such great game does not have "proper" backup in GOG's community. Let's change this and bring DD's subforum to life. :)
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