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Mori_Yuki: Discounts range from 30- to up to 50%.
Might as well wait for a sale here then, since they're also -50% and about 1 month apart.
https://isthereanydeal.com/game/cyberpunkii0viivii/history/
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Mori_Yuki: Discounts range from 30- to up to 50%.
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Ice_Mage: Might as well wait for a sale here then, since they're also -50% and about 1 month apart.
https://isthereanydeal.com/game/cyberpunkii0viivii/history/
Of course, yes, but the version sold here doesn't include any physical goodies like the day-1 edition they sell. Besides that, Gameware is only really interesting for German customers, because access to certain R18+ games is blocked for them on GOG and Steam, while they can buy keys for R18+, 100% uncut games in their shop. Admittedly, games like Wolfenstein II has them work around Steam. There may be other examples as well that I don't know of, just saying.

I have also seen it on sale for -50% very often lately, yet it's still suprising to see that it's been discounted practically every other month.
Post edited August 18, 2022 by Mori_Yuki
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Post edited August 30, 2022 by Carefree_
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Mori_Yuki: Besides that, Gameware is only really interesting for German customers
That's fine. It's just that I don't see the advantage of that store for anyone outside Germany and Austria. For comparison, I found the Day One Edition (PC) for around 23.40€ including shipping.
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pwilmot: By buying it from CDKeys you're getting it direct from them, any of those store fronts that act as a middle-man that trade keys from various sources is an instant red flag for me.
What the hell do you think you're doing on that site? - EXACTLY what you describe.
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Danji_ITA: Hello everyone. I would like to know why after two years from the purchase of the cyberpunk key I was removed the game without any warning, excuse my English but I am Italian and I cannot find any method to contact support except a useless bot
Please keep in mind we don't work with key sellers, and the code could have been purchased fraudulently, with stolen credit card information.

The only way to continue is to contact support, which is through the bot. Rest assured they will get back to you soon!
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Mori_Yuki: Besides that, Gameware is only really interesting for German customers
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Ice_Mage: That's fine. It's just that I don't see the advantage of that store for anyone outside Germany and Austria.
Since there aren't any region blocks in place, and because it is possible for Austrian customers to purchase R18/21/UR games and other media online, I don't see any advantage in ordering from them either. It was useful in the past, because they had payment methods I could use to get Steam games, and the occasional physical edition which wasn't available in any other store (online) or retail.

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Ice_Mage: For comparison, I found the Day One Edition (PC) for around 23.40€ including shipping.
With regional pricing in place this is a really cheap alternative. Since it isn't possible to order from them outside Romania and there are only two payment options: Plata ramburs (plata la livrare) and PayU, yours isn't any more useful. :-) That is of course if one got friends living in Romania, able and willing to order there. :-)
This excuse is convenient for everyone involved except the customers.

It stops customers selling on games they don't want or got at a lower price.
It lets credit cards and stores be irresponsible or fraudulent and pass on the costs of that.
If the key was legit they shouldn't be able to revoke it and those affected should be forced to track down the people who committed the crime.
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Mori_Yuki: yours isn't any more useful. :-) (...)
Since it isn't possible to order from them outside Romania (...)
Like I said, I just brought up that store for the sake of price comparison (whereas you recommended Gameware because OP is from Italy). My point being that someone interested in a physical code in a box should look around local shops.

Ozone is a Bulgarian company. They have localized web storefronts for Bulgaria, Romania, Croatia, and Greece. Prices are the same, but each site only delivers to that particular country.

And that's all I have to add. It's kind of an off-topic tangent and this thread has run its course anyway.
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SmollestLight: Please keep in mind we don't work with key sellers...
Is this true? Or do you mean "key resellers"? Because though rarely, I have seen GOG keys at retailers in the past. Perhaps GOG only sells via its own site, now?
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Mori_Yuki: yours isn't any more useful. :-) (...)
Since it isn't possible to order from them outside Romania (...)
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Ice_Mage: Like I said, I just brought up that store for the sake of price comparison (whereas you recommended Gameware because OP is from Italy). My point being that someone interested in a physical code in a box should look around local shops.
This was not the reason for suggesting this shop. The sole reason was because it's both a legit source to buy games (digital keys for various platforms and online stores), and the ability for OP to buy them there because they are living in Italy.

I also have to agree with your point. It makes sense only when the next local store is too far away, or it's cheaper to order it online from within or outside the EU, as long as it's a legit business that is.

And that's all I have to add. It's kind of an off-topic tangent and this thread has run its course anyway.
I got nothing more to say either, so let's leave it at that. :-)
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SmollestLight: Please keep in mind we don't work with key sellers...
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Dryspace: Is this true? Or do you mean "key resellers"? Because though rarely, I have seen GOG keys at retailers in the past. Perhaps GOG only sells via its own site, now?
You can legally buy keys/physical copies of CDPR games in retail stores/chains or from trusted online shops. You can't, however, buy keys for any of the other games from key sellers on the web. As SmollestLight mentioned: They could have been purchased with stolen CCs or obtained by other means. So, don't trust that when you buy keys, unless publishers or developers does business with a reseller, or leaves it up to you to decide whether to get Steam/Epic or GOG keys, that this isn't going to end up with a game being removed from someone's account.
Post edited August 20, 2022 by Mori_Yuki
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Mori_Yuki: You can legally buy keys/physical copies of CDPR games in retail stores/chains or from trusted online shops. You can't, however, buy keys for any of the other games from key sellers on the web. As SmollestLight mentioned: They could have been purchased with stolen CCs or obtained by other means. So, don't trust that when you buy keys, unless publishers or developers does business with a reseller, or leaves it up to you to decide whether to get Steam/Epic or GOG keys, that this isn't going to end up with a game being removed from someone's account.
That was the point that I made. The Witcher: Enhanced Edition, The Witcher 2, The Witcher 3, The Witcher Adventure Game, Thronebreaker: The Witcher Tales, and Cyberpunk 2077 have all been sold on Humble Bundle, which is a key seller (not re-seller).
Post edited August 23, 2022 by Dryspace
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SmollestLight: Please keep in mind we don't work with key sellers, and the code could have been purchased fraudulently, with stolen credit card information.
That's good to know. As a suggestion, you might want to make that more obvious on your website or something.

"Don't buy keys from anywhere else but here" or something.
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Magmarock: As a suggestion, you might want to make that more obvious on your website or something.

"Don't buy keys from anywhere else but here" or something.
Thing is: from time to time (very seldom, admittedly) they do sell LEGIT GOG keys on HumbleBundle, etc.

So, if they were to put out a warning like you suggest, people would probably refrain from buying on those rare occasions, thinking they don't receive legit keys for their money.

As a rule of thumb I would advise people to only buy from known legit key sellers (GMG, GG, etc), and refrain from buying on sites that are by now known for (re-)selling illegitimately aquired keys.

One good indicator is usually also a very low price.
Remember: if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is not true.

Very recently I read an article about concert goers being ripped off by Ebay ticket (re-)sellers.
Two tickets for a three days festival plus camping for €90,- each...when the real deal would have cost them €120,- each.

I mean, at some point, people have to realise, that nobody is (re-)selling for only three thirds of the price they themselves had to pay.

Mind you: we're not talking about some guy on the parking lot in front of the event, holding up a sign "Girlfriend left me yesterday - tickets to sell". There you may get a cheap one, if the guy is desperate enough.

But these guys bought weeks, if not months prior to the event, and probably grinned from ear to ear all the time because they made such a great deal.

Until they were refused entry on day one of the festival.