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Posted April 06, 2018
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Telika: I don't know. I bought it long ago, heavily discounted. Haven't played it yet, because "oooh for the real experience you totally need THIS and THAT expansion, which adds THAT and THIS dimension" [don't even quite remember which ones it was, religions or stuff like that].

And my point is more general. Fragmenting a game into DLCs is, I noticed it on gog aswell, a great way to look like you're offering generous discounts (like 75% on the base game) while keeping the discount minimal on the DLCs. It looks more like creepy fish hook investments, aimed to facilitate further expenses. It's annoying to look at game discounts and having to ask "wait, which portion of the game is discounted how much now". Such giveaways are an extreme case of this.

I wonder how many people, amongst those who are getting it for free, will (or are expected to) play it for free.
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mystral: You know, it always makes me laugh to see people complaining about getting free stuff. Obviously, giving the base game away for free is a way to get new players, hoping some of them will be hooked enough to buy DLC or even other Paradox games. They're not a charity after all.

But the fact remains that the base CK 2 without any DLC is an excellent game in its own right. Whining about how getting it for free is a marketing ploy is ridiculous imo.
Let's say I make a distinction between, say, giving Just Cause 2 away betting on people to buy Just Cause 3, and giving a base game away betting on people to buy the DLCs. It's one illustration of why I loathe DLC policies (and we're not talking of post-game new chapter DLCs), and Paradox' marketing strategy.

But okay. Free, free, yay. Enjoy and feel grateful. On my side, it's how enthousiastically people react as soon as something is "free" (freeeeee), that perplexes me a bit. Whatever.
Posted April 06, 2018
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Telika: [...]
On my side, it's how enthousiastically people react as soon as something is "free" (freeeeee), that perplexes me a bit. Whatever.
and in threads like this here, when I see a post like yours, the exact same thought strikes me as well.
Posted April 06, 2018
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Geralt_of_Rivia: The game is also DRM-free. You can download it with the Steam command line downloader SteamCMD and play it without ever installing the Steam client.
Crusader Kings II also features compulsory telemetry that was added to it long after release.

I realize it's hardly an issue for most people (and presumably you can firewall it away, though not sure if it does not use Steam integration to upload some data along the way - stand-alone running definitely recommended), but it sure put Paradox on my shit list when they pulled that stunt.

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mystral: But the fact remains that the base CK 2 without any DLC is an excellent game in its own right. Whining about how getting it for free is a marketing ploy is ridiculous imo.
Not in the long run.

Sure, the first few playthroughs (most restarted once you realize you messed up something bad learning the mechanics) are entertaining, then the lack of content starts coming through.
Post edited April 06, 2018 by Lukaszmik
Posted April 06, 2018
I've owned this for a while now, but I'm yet to learn how to play Paradox's grand strategy games. I heard about some pretty great tutorials over youtube. Maybe I'll look for them someday.
Posted April 06, 2018
Thanks for the heads-up! Are there large differences between the EU series and Crusader Kings series? They look a great deal alike
Posted April 06, 2018
I've had it for far to long. The DLCs keep piling up. Which made me ignore Paradox altogether lately. I'm content with their old games.

I wish Stellaris and Cities: Skylines were already "complete"...
Post edited April 06, 2018 by blotunga
Posted April 06, 2018
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TheSaint54: Thanks for the heads-up! Are there large differences between the EU series and Crusader Kings series? They look a great deal alike
EU series is based around the concept of nationhood.

CK2 is a dynastic simulation. While there is some overlap, the focus ultimately differs.

CK2 is much more "personal" in that you operate with actual characters. EU is much more the typical "grand strategy" level.
Posted April 06, 2018
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TheSaint54: Thanks for the heads-up! Are there large differences between the EU series and Crusader Kings series? They look a great deal alike
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Lukaszmik: EU series is based around the concept of nationhood.

CK2 is a dynastic simulation. While there is some overlap, the focus ultimately differs.

CK2 is much more "personal" in that you operate with actual characters. EU is much more the typical "grand strategy" level.
Thanks for the reply and details
Posted April 06, 2018
Is there any way to add free Steam games to the library without installing them?
Posted April 06, 2018
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PaterAlf: ...
I'm clicking "Play" in browser and receive "Game added to library" message. You can also click Install and cancel it before installation starts. Both methods work for me.
Post edited April 06, 2018 by ciemnogrodzianin
Posted April 06, 2018
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PaterAlf: Is there any way to add free Steam games to the library without installing them?
Clicking "Install Game" will add the game to your account. No need to actually install it.
Posted April 06, 2018
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PaterAlf: ...
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ciemnogrodzianin: I'm clicking "Play" in browser and receive "Game added to library" message. You can also click Install and cancel it before installation starts. Both methods works for me.
Good to know. Thank you!
Posted April 06, 2018
26 paid DLCs!!!!!!!!

What is the base game then?
Posted April 06, 2018
Yeah why not... except that apparently I already have it in my Steam account, along with four DLCs (out of couple dozen). No idea when I have bought them, maybe they were part of some Humble Bundle.
Posted April 06, 2018
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bhrigu: 26 paid DLCs!!!!!!!!

What is the base game then?
Great question. Either the base game or the DLC is lacking, right?
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