Posted March 28, 2017
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Posted March 30, 2017
Midoryu
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Posted March 30, 2017
That made me laugh... Thanks for that.
Thanks for the links, will bookmark this thread and check them out later. Have a lot of stuff to do at the moment that's why I'm not up to date, so it's helpful to know someone else keeps an eye out as well. Maybe we can turn this into a helpful discussion later on. For the moment I've only read this:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/03/five-creepy-things-your-isp-could-do-if-congress-repeals-fccs-privacy-protections
This will be fun when the new EU privacy law arrives next year...
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Edited 30 minutes later: Mixed up two words, fixed.
Thanks for the links, will bookmark this thread and check them out later. Have a lot of stuff to do at the moment that's why I'm not up to date, so it's helpful to know someone else keeps an eye out as well. Maybe we can turn this into a helpful discussion later on. For the moment I've only read this:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/03/five-creepy-things-your-isp-could-do-if-congress-repeals-fccs-privacy-protections
This will be fun when the new EU privacy law arrives next year...
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Edited 30 minutes later: Mixed up two words, fixed.
Post edited March 30, 2017 by Midoryu
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Posted March 30, 2017
Midoryu: Thanks for the links, will bookmark this thread and check them out later. Have a lot of stuff to do at the moment that's why I'm not up to date, so it's helpful to know someone else keeps an eye out as well.
This sorta just fell in my lap as it got to my attention. On the sad note it not only passed the senate, but congress. Now Trump has to sign it for it to become a law and to remove those protections. After listening for nearly two hours about the bill and what it is in question, it comes down to:
Obama redefined the internet providers as carriers and they fall under the jurisdiction of the FCC and taking on the privacy protections as well. The FCC has 3 requirements includes:
1) Provider requires consent before sharing/using your data
2) Measures to protect cyber security and attacks
3) In the case of stolen/hacked data, you are notified
The big push is the CRA says the FCC rules are extra duplicate coverage which the FTC gives protections, however a number of those protections aren't covered for cell phones and mobile data.
More than that the FTC has no way to enforce privacy protections for everyday users. If the FCC protections are removed, they cannot be inserted again later (most likely) so it's all or nothing.
Once overturned they don't have to notify you when your data is stolen, and they don't have to get permission to sell your data, be it web history form data submission habits or anything else.
Edit: Listening to today's show AJ says the bill isn't what they say it is at all, and the FCC regulations on the internet is to be used to block and silence anyone they want, namely news outlets and media that isn't the MSM who they control.
Post edited March 31, 2017 by rtcvb32
rtcvb32
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Posted April 01, 2017
Alex Jones chimes in with Dr Corsi in regards to FCC/FTC Privacy rules. (<i>goes to about 1:05</i>)
Long and short of it, is 'privacy rules' are presented in a way that makes the Republicans seem like the ones who are against privacy, while the FCC/Common Carrier (Title 2) rules were pushed by Google and other 'edge' services to collect your information at will.
Related Infowars Article
I don't understand it all...
edit: Don't need a new post. So nightly news for SJR-34
Long and short of it, is 'privacy rules' are presented in a way that makes the Republicans seem like the ones who are against privacy, while the FCC/Common Carrier (Title 2) rules were pushed by Google and other 'edge' services to collect your information at will.
Related Infowars Article
I don't understand it all...
edit: Don't need a new post. So nightly news for SJR-34
Post edited April 02, 2017 by rtcvb32
MajicMan
God and Country
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Posted April 01, 2017
First, getting the ISPs out from under the FCC was a good thing.
As for ISPs being able to collect and sell data, why does it matter if ISPs are blocked when nobody else is blocked form doing the same thing?
Every site uses cookies.
Google, Facebook, Four Square, Apple collect massive data. You think these companies make more than $150 billion a year in ad sales because they aren't tracking and selling your data?
Google scans every e-mail in gmail. Every GPS you use on a phone tells the company what is happening. Posting all your likes and dislikes on facebook is all data collected and sold.
Go to Amazon and check out the "others who bought this also bought these" and the "recommended for you" based on nothing but your search. Then check e-mails for ads targeting what was searched.
So ISPs can do the same thing every single other company can do, it's the end of the world.
As for ISPs being able to collect and sell data, why does it matter if ISPs are blocked when nobody else is blocked form doing the same thing?
Every site uses cookies.
Google, Facebook, Four Square, Apple collect massive data. You think these companies make more than $150 billion a year in ad sales because they aren't tracking and selling your data?
Google scans every e-mail in gmail. Every GPS you use on a phone tells the company what is happening. Posting all your likes and dislikes on facebook is all data collected and sold.
Go to Amazon and check out the "others who bought this also bought these" and the "recommended for you" based on nothing but your search. Then check e-mails for ads targeting what was searched.
So ISPs can do the same thing every single other company can do, it's the end of the world.
Post edited April 01, 2017 by MajicMan
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MajicMan
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Posted April 01, 2017
MajicMan: So ISPs can do the same thing every single other company can do, it's the end of the world.
rtcvb32: The big crux of the matter on the debate, was that you don't often have a choice which ISP you can use, and thus all your communication going through them means they could collect the most data (in theory). Although other than url's, get and post data (unencrypted) it's difficult to be sure what they could collect that would make sense to them.
Although with more sites going SSL and encryption, plus browsers like TOR...
You don't have to use facebook, twitter, instagram, myspace, etc, but then what social network would you use?
You don't have to use Youtube, but what is your video sharing alternative again?
You don't have to use the internet either.
Change your browsers, change your browser settings, but if you go online you are "on the gird" so to speak.